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graciegirl 10-30-2019 07:10 AM
We miss you Walter Cronkite.

walter cronkite sign-off - Bing video

Bucco 10-30-2019 07:13 AM
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That Bay Kid. Came here to see for sure his parents were doing well, liked it and found a place of his own. I have learned so much from this nice fellow. About the Chesapeake Bay, about yummy food, about life and life lessons. One of these days I am gonna shake his hand.

Thank you for your excellent presentation of a worthy subject.

I really think that the three networks; CNN, MSNBC and the largest viewed, Fox News are biased and have strong opinions in their daily "shows". The News we read online, which is where most people "get their news" as I was trying to illustrate with my computer screen shot, RARELY show what happened but give an interpretation at best and almost always a to me, biased view. That is why there is so much outrage. Only half of the country agree with what we see repeatedly.
What you describe is called "headline reading" , and relying on that is worse than doing nothing. If that is a source of NEWS then those who do that can't possibly be even remotely informed.

collie1228 10-30-2019 07:53 AM
The TV news business has gotten really lazy. How many times do I have to hear "After the break we will hear from our all-star panel"? Frankly I don't like or believe your all-star panel. Panels are simply a lazy way for the networks to fill airtime with talking heads. And it's obvious that these talking heads get their talking points from their ideological leaders (DNC, RNC, Heritage Foundation, Brookings, etc.). Left wingers and right wingers on all networks make the same points, using the same language. Is anyone else tired or hearing the term "existential threat"?

Taltarzac725 10-30-2019 07:59 AM
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The TV news business has gotten really lazy. How many times do I have to hear "After the break we will hear from our all-star panel"? Frankly I don't like or believe your all-star panel. Panels are simply a lazy way for the networks to fill airtime with talking heads. And it's obvious that these talking heads get their talking points from their ideological leaders (DNC, RNC, Heritage Foundation, Brookings, etc.). Left wingers and right wingers on all networks make the same points, using the same language. Is anyone else tired or hearing the term "existential threat"?
That is MSNBC, Fox Cable, CNN, etc, usually and not the regular stations like CBS, NBC and ABC.

anothersteve 10-30-2019 08:08 AM
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That is MSNBC, Fox Cable, CNN, etc, usually and not the regular stations like CBS, NBC and ABC.
And that's only because MSNBC, Fox, CNN are 24/7/365.
CBS, NBC, ABC have certain time slots to fill.
Steve

graciegirl 10-30-2019 08:09 AM
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What you describe is called "headline reading" , and relying on that is worse than doing nothing. If that is a source of NEWS then those who do that can't possibly be even remotely informed.
What you just wrote is an opinion of what I just wrote.


Here is a screen shot of the "headlines" on my computer this morning;

Disclaimer; I read all articles. My family will tell me what to further think about them later this week...………..I have one employed by each side...…..

Taltarzac725 10-30-2019 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1692152)
And that's only because MSNBC, Fox, CNN are 24/7/365.
CBS, NBC, ABC have certain time slots to fill.
Steve
There are many stations now so they compete for audiences.

The panels they bring up also seem to vary a great deal as to the qualifications of these guests. Some stations are much better than others with whom they give the spotlight to at any given moment.

I watch CNN quite often and they often have people from various different agendas on their programs.

Other stations look more like a Saturday Night Live parody of real life.

anothersteve 10-30-2019 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1692155)
There are many stations now so they compete for audiences.

The panels they bring up also seem to vary a great deal as to the qualifications of these guests. Some stations are much better than others with whom they give the spotlight to at any given moment.

I watch CNN quite often and they often have people from various different agendas on their programs.

Other stations look more like a Saturday Night Live parody of real life.
Agree (except for watching CNN part :) )
My point was that "discussion" panels are more prevalent with the cable "news" channels because they are 24/7/365
Non cable Sunday "news" panels are a different story altogether.
Steve

graciegirl 10-30-2019 09:01 AM
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Has anyone noticed more negative reporting about law enforcement? Here is one this morning...……

Taltarzac725 10-30-2019 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1692162)
Has anyone noticed more negative reporting about law enforcement? Here is one this morning...……
Think it depends on the news cycle and has no broader meaning.

The story you referenced was very disturbing.

anothersteve 10-30-2019 09:16 AM
Here is the story, I had to look it up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...d-court-rules/

My opinion. The police went a tad too far for one individual.
Steve

Bucco 10-30-2019 10:38 AM
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Has anyone noticed more negative reporting about law enforcement? Here is one this morning...……
Were the details of the story correct ??

Did what the headline show actually happen ?

That is like saying when "man1" shoots and kills "man#2" and the headline says "man1 shoots and kills man#2"......that could be called negative news about "man1".

Point is it was accurate.....there is an assumption that people read beyond headlines.

If you do something wrong, you cannot complain about the subsequent publicity surrounding your wrongful act.

Bucco 10-30-2019 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1692153)
What you just wrote is an opinion of what I just wrote.


Here is a screen shot of the "headlines" on my computer this morning;

Disclaimer; I read all articles. My family will tell me what to further think about them later this week...………..I have one employed by each side...…..
You alluding to "each side" is a very telling comment on how you feel about news.

billgraba 10-30-2019 12:01 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head, Ed.

graciegirl 10-30-2019 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1692187)
You alluding to "each side" is a very telling comment on how you feel about news.
As is yours.

Bucco 10-30-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1692229)
As is yours.
Interesting, I do not recall making any statement close to referring to a "side"

Factually, I have been consistent in my criticism of cable news as a first line choice or news, and actually have never referred to a cable channel by its name.

Interesting though that it was read that I mentioned "side". Perhaps, you can point out on this thread about news coverage where I may have said that.

Bottom line to me is though those who are disgusted with news might actually be disgusted with the NEWSMAKERS, not the media who reports it.


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