Mass Hysteria
 

As of March 6 the Center for Disease Control estimated that 20,000 Americans have died so far in this flu season.

About 40 people have died so far in the US from coronavirus, mostly elderly.

Has the media mentioned the 20,000 dead, to put this hysterical reaction into perspective?

Nope. Bad news sells newspapers, and the MSM is raking it in over this ridiculous "shut down the country" reaction to coronavirus. And the sheeple are buying it...

Pretty sad, isn't it?

Until it’s one of your dear old one that gets it, right?

A friend of mine shared this, this morning! Read it and take a deep breath....
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"I want everyone to take a big, deep, calming breath.

I’d like to give you all a true glimpse into American healthcare and how it works, for it seems that much of the population is a bit out of touch.

Firstly, It is shocking to me how many people are concerned with their health all of a sudden. While you’re freaking out about somebody infecting you with this horrible virus, maybe put your cigarettes away, or take your medication, or eat a vegetable for once.

Shocker: It is not standard procedure to test for COVID-19. There are a number of boxes that must be ticked first, before any healthcare professional in the state of Indiana will even consider it.

If you come into the ER, urgent care, or see your regular doctor and your symptoms are mild, you are going to be going home with instructions to rest, hydrate, and treat your symptoms with over the counter medication. We may test for the flu, because it is simple, cost-effective, and yields a result (we can offer you Tamiflu). There is not a simple, cost-effective test for COVID-19. There is also very little we can do with the information, if we get it. Knowing that one is positive for this novel coronavirus may help guide treatment in some ways (isolation, shared practice knowledge), but the test itself will mean next to nothing. We treat each patient differently, based on the symptoms or distress that each patient is experiencing.

Symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, cough, and shortness of breath. Unless you are in respiratory distress, don’t even try to go to an ER. You will be sent home after waiting miserably for hours, with a big bill for your trouble. This is one of the reasons healthcare professionals can’t stand panic and hysteria-it fills our offices and emergency departments with people who should be at home resting, instead.

Per the CDC, this virus is primarily spread by people who are symptomatic. In the majority of cases, you will not spread anything to anyone else unless you are ill yourself.
Actionable things:
-Take care of yourself: eat well, stay hydrated, take your medications/vitamins, and stop freaking out (it weakens your immune system)
-Wash your hands often and don’t share things or touch your face.
-Stay home if you are unwell. (Apparently, an abundance of TP helps with this 😂)
-Keep up with the Lysol and the Clorox (and read the labels, you’d be shocked how much time it takes to properly sanitize something!)

I am an immunocompromised ICU nurse. I am not worried or afraid. These things are all second nature to me. We have to help each other out a bit, here. Quit whining about restrictions, quit panicking to no end, and just keep doing what needs to be done. Think about others for a change, too. This whole major freak-out that’s happening across the world right now? Welcome to the daily life of a family with a special needs child, or a cancer patient, or an elderly person, etc. Have some compassion and just take a deep breath.

And for goodness’ sake, if they develop a vaccination for this, remember how you feel right now and GET IT!"

You apparently just don't understand...

So then every fall we need to shut down the country until May when the "regular" flu season ends, to prevent the 20,000+ deaths.
Brilliant!

Publix at Lake Deaton
 

I just returned from Publix at Lake Deaton Plaza. I had to drive around for five minutes to find an empty space for parking. That should have been my first clue. There were no carts available in the store. Shelves were empty, lines were ridiculous, there were no bananas, etc., etc., etc. I decided to return home and wait until normalcy returns in The Villages.

I find all the excuses for not taking this virus seriously, pathetic, and it would be funny except for the possible consequences to vulnerable folks. Some of us were born with no frontal lobes, I guess.

I was fine with everything until they cancelled the Players Golf Tournament. Now, the world is coming to an end. I may have to open another Perry Mason DVD.

With me, it’s Formula one. I was really looking forwards to it too!

I would just point out that the blue line on the chart showing total cases is only going to go up as more people are tested. So, it is not a factor of more people getting sick, but of more people getting tested.

I’m wondering how many people have the signs of the illness but do not want to get tested. They may not want the stigma of being identified, just like once it was when AIDS first came on the scene. Especially since nothing effective can be done for them anyways.

For example, did Bolsonaro knew he had the virus when he shook hands?

And as you can see from this forum, selfishness is coming out of the woodwork.

Back seat driving, after-the-fact is so easy.

How many days before people are complaining about all the places being shut down?

:bigbow:

:ho: Like when a Hurricane was in the forecast? :oops:

One of the reasons UK has not yet 'shut down for business' is the experts do not expect the virus to peak until about June, and at the moment, containment is a better option than lockdown.
With that amount of time in lockdown, they believe people will be so p***ed off, they will start back to work, socialise etc, long before the peak and most infectious period is reached.
One of the very good reasons for not shutting schools, was that many parents in work would use grandparents as baby sitters.
That would put the least vulnerable, with the most vulnerable.
Whether our medical experts and health stategists are right, we will have to wait and see.

Yeah, my 85 year old dad almost died 6 weeks ago from RSV and Pnuemonia that started as the common cold...... glad he did not. That is why I know this is hystaria, it is nothing new. Covid-19 make people who are elderly or weak more suseptible to other things like that - just like colds and the FLU. What ****es me off is the people who are all concerned about this that don't get a FLU shot every year..

Agree with Packer Fan.

My granddaughter in NJ had a high school senior trip next week to Disney for 5 days they have been paying for since they were freshmen. Disney (as of now) won't even give a refund, only a "credit" for the park & hotel due to the rate. Almost 500 kids who after school is out in June will be going in all different directions so they can't possibly reschedule and even if it reopened in 2-3 weeks there would be no availability + chartering 2 planes etc. They haven't heard yet if even charter flights will be refunded. Teachers are working on it but there is a lot of money to be lost.

I also wonder if they will extend our yearly pass which expires June 1st.

The Villages is the only justifiable place for people to be nervous. Pretty much everyone is old and have underlying issues so I don’t blame The Villages. It’s the rest of the world that’s acting ridiculous.

I'm taking my lane and enforcing the three foot rule.

When they close the bars I will know it is serious

The villages and this forum are filled with deniers, at least the president reversed course and declared a national state of emergency

So, in your opinion, the people who are panicking, scared and hoarding TP are right; the people who advocate a more sensible approach, common sense and moderate caution (the deniers according to you) are wrong)
Hmmmmmm

Oh, but......according to the CDC so far this season

Covid-19-------1,629 cases, 41 deaths
Influenza A&B---36,000,000 cases, 22,000 deaths

Gee, I think I should join the panicked hoarders, maybe I can follow a TP truck around to its destination, kind of like the oil embargo of 1973

Thank you - so much appreciate you sharing!!

There is a difference between taking it seriously and being in panic mode.

Here is the BEST case death estimate from the Centers for Disease Control, yesterday, assuming the whole country does its best to self-quarantine and the disease isn’t nearly as bad as feared:
“ Dr. Lawler’s calculations suggested 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative. By contrast, about 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season, according to the C.D.C. Unlike with seasonal influenza, the entire population is thought to be susceptible to the new coronavirus.”
I got that here a few minutes ago:
Worst-Case Estimates for U.S. Coronavirus Deaths - The New York Times

Seriously????

OK, "worst case scenarios":

The near Earth asteroid that will pass by in 2038 makes a direct hit and destroys the planet

Weaponized smallpox escapes from a level 4 containment lab and kills 3 billion worldwide

N. Korea has a falling out with Iran and start a nuclear exchange that ignites WWIII

Who is this Lawler clown anyway????
He thinks 480,000 deaths is conservative?
The Spanish flu in 1918-1919, the worst epidemic in the modern era, killed between 500,000 and 675,000 Americans. And that was during a world war with troops in trenches, no ICU's , no ventilators, no antibiotics and no antivirals.
Either he is the Village Idiot at the CDC, or perhaps he was talking worldwide deaths

BTW, I can't find Lawler or his prediction on the CDC website. This is apparently what the NY Times said he predicted, and we all know what that means.

In 1918 the world population was 1.8 billion. The Spanish Flu infected an estimated 500 million which resulted in 50 million deaths.

The world population today is 7.8 billion - 7X the size it was in 1918 with mobility 1000 fold over 1918.

And your point is...…..?
Other than 7x 1.8 billion is not 7.8 billion
Actually, you made my point---this guy was predicting about as many deaths from Covid 19 as the Spanish flu---do we think that is reasonable??????

Its true that influenza is for more prevalent but the mortality rate from Covid-19 is about 50 times times higher. You have to be more concerned un a senior citizens community because this disease is more virulent with senior citizens.

Best estimate from the CDC is that "regular" flu has a mortality rate of 0.1% and Covid-19 0.7%, so 7x, NOT 50x. But even the CDC states that the 0.7% estimate might be high and the mortality rate could be as low as 3x the "regular" flu

Sky is falling ! Sky is falling !

I know what 7 x 1.8 is. I also know what a Philadelphia lawyer is.

My point is why take this lightly. Let's get this straight immediately - I am not promoting hysteria in the least. But this sort of thing could (I said could) spread exponentially. Why not take precaution now. Some people are a lot more concerned about their investments than the health of mankind. Wonderful motivators fear and greed.

The Italian prime minister showed a graph of how quickly the cases multiplied Italy.He also overlaid other countries on that graph which have surprisingly similar curves at the early stages they are at. His point was do the isolationism before it overpowers the health care system. He said technology wise are probably able to save the lives of almost every case but it requires tools like ventilators. They are having to make some hard choices of who gets what treatment.

That's no different than here. You all complain about the tremendous waits at TV ER. Can you imagine the care you won't get if this is a true epidemic. Thus why not be a little conservative now rather than sighting some very low statistics and call this a made up conspiracy ?

And that is why I think 1918 to 2020 is apples and oranges.

I don't really disagree with your posts (other than 1.8 x 7 =7.8:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)
I was responding to the Dr. Lawler's estimate of 485,000 deaths being conservative:

It is an idiotic estimate at this time, so I have to believe the NY Times either accidentally or deliberately misquoted him or took it out of context, the person who posted it was confused, or this guy is really the Village Idiot of the CDC----you pick

And that says it all. Come on folks, be people, not sheeple

Thank you for a calm and reasonable answer!

Apples to oranges. There have been tens of millions of flu infections compared to a few thousand so far with coronavirus. Flu has a fraction of a percent death rate, coronavirus is around 2% (40 out of 2100) in the US. The key is to keep it from spreading, and that’s the reason for all the precautions.

:ohdear: Where did anyone say that they were not taking it seriously? Just that panic and not listening to facts is even worse. How many times do you have to be told by doctors that wearing a mask is useless in preventing the disease especially if you by mask that are less than $15 apiece. People are going crazy with toilet paper hysteria. Buying out bottle water when it is a miracle of modern life what comes out of that funny looking thing attached to your sinks. The notion that this will be any where close to the influenza pandemic is ludicrous when you look at the advances in medicine and sanitation. There has been no notice of any plant closures for bread, TP, gas or any essential items, why are people going into a panic. Worry about having a plan to help friends and neighbors that may need your help because they are highly vulnerable. They may need groceries or meds brought to them. Get plans put together, stay calm and follow cleanliness guidelines that you should have all ready been following.

Exactly!!!!!