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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-07-2020 01:16 PM

Is anyone else surprised
 
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

dewilson58 04-07-2020 01:22 PM

The mitigators are killing the virus and are saving lives of smart & stupid people.


The socializers are feeding the virus and extending the life of the virus.

photo1902 04-07-2020 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

I'm not minimizing the threat as I feel that the threat is huge. It's just that I thought that when it got here it would spread like wildfire. I thought the hospitals would be overwhelmed in a matter of days.

Maybe it's because the first cases got here around the same time as the Governor's stay at home order.

I've personally met and chatted with some people here in TV that think the everyone is over reacting and that it's not a big deal. I witnessed myself people in a supermarket standing within inches of one another and talking into each other's face.

I guess (hope) that these cases are few and far between but I really thought that once it got here we were going to see thousands of cases and hundreds of deaths within a matter of weeks.

It appears that we're doing a great job of mitigating. Way to go!!! Keep up the good work.

I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

billethkid 04-07-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1742141)
I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

Not too early to discuss results to date. The early indicators, so far would suggest most residents are complying with the CDC and state guidelines/orders...

Those who think it is no big deal or we are over reacting? Let's all hope and pray for them, friends, family and us they are not asymptomatic carriers.
As the saying goes....there is no fixin' stupid!!!

vintageogauge 04-07-2020 01:41 PM

The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

Villageswimmer 04-07-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1742151)
The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.


Are there really churches in TV holding services in person? All I’ve heard of are online or drive in to watch a large screen.
Which churches are doing this?

manaboutown 04-07-2020 01:52 PM

The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

Doro22 04-07-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1742156)
The incubation period is quite long and 80% don't get very sick so it may be too early to tell.

I was just speaking with a friend who while visiting her grandchildren in WA over Thanksgiving last year became very ill and even lost her sense of taste and smell. Several of the children got pneumonia. She now believes they had the Wuhan virus. Many Chinese were visiting or living in the area and she believes it got there through some of them.

Interesting concept. Perhaps that person should get tested to see if she has developed antibodies to the virus.

manaboutown 04-07-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doro22 (Post 1742164)
Interesting concept. Perhaps that person should get tested to see if she has developed antibodies to the virus.

Next time I speak with her I will suggest she get tested and give plasma if she had it. She is 70 years old and was very very sick for weeks. At the time she thought it was the worst case of flu she ever had experienced.

Bjeanj 04-07-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742129)
that the coronavirus hasn't spread more rapidly in The Villages?

Yes.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 04-07-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1742141)
I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.

Healthiest 04-07-2020 03:36 PM

Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

golfing eagles 04-07-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Healthiest (Post 1742208)
Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

Too bad there isn't any "blood of Jesus" around when you need it. Let's hope these parishioners have hoarded a supply.

manaboutown 04-07-2020 03:48 PM

Here is a published lists of cruises on which people may have been exposed to the virus. If any Villagers were on board they could potentially be carriers.

Coronavirus: Cruise passengers on these ships may have been exposed

npwalters 04-07-2020 03:56 PM

Not surprised. We are in a demographic that is much more likely to die if the virus is contracted but our lifestyle in an environment that make close contact less likely then say NYC should limit the exposure. The rate of spread is actually very small if you do the math -especially here. This recognized the steps taken to close the squares, etc.

npwalters 04-07-2020 03:57 PM

Please ignore the typos, didn't edit the above before hitting send

jebartle 04-07-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1742203)
The first case here was over two weeks ago. The incubation period could be up to fourteen days. With the testing facility at the polo grounds, I would think that if there were a lot of cases we'd know about it.


Fingers crossed, oh heck, my eyes are crossed also, whatever it takes to see an end to this..?.

coffeebean 04-07-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1742141)
I feel it is way too early in the game to tell how bad (or not) it will be here.

Agree. It is just the beginning for us here in The Villages.

coffeebean 04-07-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1742151)
The next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

Those church goers will then go to the grocery stores. My grocery list is so long but I'm staying out of the stores. It's people like the church goers that are instilling the fear in me.

coffeebean 04-07-2020 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Healthiest (Post 1742208)
Yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' There was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of Jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

Seriously?????

jet10s 04-07-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1742151)
the next two weeks should tell the tale. I'm a little concerned about churches being allowed to have congregations inside, this is the worst possible time to be doing so.

which churches

jet10s 04-07-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1742269)
those church goers will then go to the grocery stores. My grocery list is so long but i'm staying out of the stores. It's people like the church goers that are instilling the fear in me.

don't go out -- you won't get it

jet10s 04-07-2020 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by healthiest (Post 1742208)
yes, they are. The governor said church services are 'essential services.' there was one church on the news (can't remember which one) in which 1800 people were in attendance. They kept saying that the blood of jesus heals and seemed to really believe that they couldn't get it.

but not here in the villages

asianthree 04-07-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1742270)
Seriously?????

Actually know a doctor that truly believes faith will keep him safe. Sadly his wife is stage 4, and so is he. So off to service they go.

coffeebean 04-07-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1742295)
Actually know a doctor that truly believes faith will keep him safe. Sadly his wife is stage 4, and so is he. So off to service they go.

You would think an intelligent person such as a doctor would know better.

KyWoman 04-07-2020 09:09 PM

I truly believe that I had it in December after flying north for Christmas. I was very sick with congested chest, very sore throat and pain with breathing, fatigue and fever. Also lost my sense of taste and smell. I isolated myself in my son's lower level and wore a mask,( brought with us because of a new baby), and thankfully no one else got sick. I had the flu shot and never had anything like this in my life.

JudyLife 04-08-2020 04:55 AM

Cannot believe how stupid people can be! We are here in London England & have been in lockdown officially just over 2 weeks, although hubby & I started a week earlier. One of us goes for groceries as infrequently as possible & a brief walk, avoiding any contact, every few days. Is it boring? At times but better than lying in a coffin. Please stay home people! Wear a mask when you go out & follow the official advice. Pay attention to Dr Fauci!! As to attending a church service you need to have your head examined!!

Koapaka 04-08-2020 04:55 AM

Lets have the SAME question asked in 14-18 days and see if your assessment is the same.

Rwirish 04-08-2020 05:08 AM

Not surprised at all. Villagers have done an excellent job of social distancing. Sure there are violators who just don’t get it. You can’t correct stupid.

Skunky1 04-08-2020 05:32 AM

How many people that live in the villages have died from the coronavirus virus? I understand there’s more than what we have been told.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-08-2020 05:36 AM

I built a simple viral spread model for Massachusetts, 4 weeks ago, and the difference with and without social distancing is immense. The model also predicted the same time frame for max as the current thinking with social distance. The virus is very much an indoor urban disease, where close interactions and enclosed spaces induce the spread. The villages being very outdoorsy is contributing to the reduced spread. The virus is killed by ultraviolet light, by medical sources, and the outside world invaded for winter months just prior to widespread infections. So I actually believe the villages is an ideal location for avoiding the disease, with outside activity and social distancing. The only downside of the villages is the increased behavioral bias of attribution which comes with age.

sportsguy's opinion and beliefs.

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1742390)
How many people that live in the villages have died from the coronavirus virus? I understand there’s more than what we have been told.

According to the FDOH, 7 deaths in Sumter, 2 in Lake, and 2 in Marion, not all from inside the Villagers. I'm sure they'll be developer bashers that think there are more bodies in the Morse's garage.

Challenger 04-08-2020 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1742393)
According to the FDOH, 7 deaths in Sumter, 2 in Lake, and 2 in Marion, not all from inside the Villagers. I'm sure they'll be developer bashers that think there are more bodies in the Morse's garage.

Not so ! They are under the Morse bridge.:coolsmiley:

arbajeda 04-08-2020 05:44 AM

As of 6:30 last night (4/7) there were 87 cases in Sumter county.

Central Florida coronavirus cases county-by-county - Orlando Sentinel

A topic of conversation at the pool used to be how many cruises people had been on. Yet even though the Polo Grounds has been testing for several days now, there hasn't been a huge uptick in infections. There was a post yesterday citing a story from the Tampa Bay Times on how The Villages was going to be decimated because of the age of the populace. Nothing specific, just speculation based on information of susceptible population based on age. I guess we are better at this social distancing thing than other places; it also helps that we have fewer gathering places since the squares have been closed. And there are those who will continue to ignore recommendations that will help avoid infection. Well, like Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid."

Woolyg 04-08-2020 05:47 AM

We all hope that we have a low infection rate.. Does anyone think that 1K tests in Sumpter county is enough to make any judgement with the population of Sumpter? The biggest issue is still the availability of tests. The drive through testing is meant to go everyday but it has to shut down every week after 3 or 4 days of testing because they run out of tests. Every time testing is running the slots fill up in 2 hours.. So there are people with symptoms that just don't get tested until they have more tests. So our infection rate is most likely higher than it appears.. As the availability of tests increases the cases will increase also. Tampa drive through testing at Raymond James and also the Orlando drive through testing sites have also been limited in the people they can test.. All due to lack of tests.. There was a report on Orlando Fox station that they are setting up 3 new drive through testing sites (not here) with the hope of some of them doing 1k tests a day. One specifically in Melbourne. They will be using the new test that gives results in 15 min. Once we can test more people we will get a more realistic infection rate. The link below shows Florida cases and more. Just click on the testing tab and then the county and you can see how many were tested and results. This is updates twice daily.

Florida Official Results

fishon 04-08-2020 05:48 AM

The virus seems to spread quickly in areas where there are people living in high density and poverty. NYC, LA, China, Italy and Iran are among the worst.
Sure there are wealthy people in those places but a great number of those places have huge areas of squalor.

The Villages is an upscale environment not at all like the above mentioned.

Let's don't forget that NYC is a hive of scum and villainy.

Dendrn 04-08-2020 05:57 AM

Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.

Lynnesail 04-08-2020 06:04 AM

Are there statistics somewhere that keep track of COVID for just the people in The Villages?

Leadbone1 04-08-2020 06:19 AM

We’re not overwhelmed with it because the whole thing has been overhyped. The models they used to predict the number of deaths were seriously flawed. In the end more people will die of the flu this year then will die of COVID-19. I’m not saying you shouldn’t take it serious but it’s not turning out to be what we were initially told. Everyone’s free to believe what they need to believe

Tracy Turnbull 04-08-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dendrn (Post 1742415)
Just a reminder the first case detected in US was Jan 20, on Feb 26, President Trump announced 15 cases and no deaths, that would go away magically. THAT WAS 37 DAYS IN THE US. On the other hand the tri county area of Lake/Sumter/Marion had 1st case March 16. Today, ONLY 23 DAYS LATER we have 271 cases with 9 deaths right here in TV and many more in tri county area. WOW, big difference. I would say we are spreading and FAST.

Where did you get these numbers? I haven't heard that there have been 9 deaths in The Villages...please share your source.


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