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capecodbob 04-17-2020 12:04 PM

Watching and Waiting for a Coronavirus Surge in The Villages in Today's WSJ
 
Sprawling retirement community has at least 68 residents positive for Covid-19; ‘an opportunity for it to take off’
By Arian Campo-Flores for The Wall Street Journal
April 17, 2020 8:00 am ET


Residents of The Villages, a sprawling retirement community in central Florida, were still gathering in town squares, visiting nail salons and browsing an estate sale in late March. Only after Gov. Ron DeSantis issued a statewide stay-at-home order April 1 did many of the holdouts hunker down, residents and officials say.

The delay in adopting social-distancing measures could haunt The Villages, a fast-growing metro area of more than 128,000 people whose older age makes them especially vulnerable to Covid-19

So, are we going to have a surge or not?

starflyte1 04-17-2020 12:54 PM

Yes, it could haunt The Villages. It also may NOT haunt The Villages! I’ll go with the latter.

VApeople 04-17-2020 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capecodbob (Post 1748105)
So, are we going to have a surge or not?

Nope.

Most of us have learned to keep our distance and enjoy our lives. I see small groups of people gathering in front of their homes and I see groups of golf carts parked somewhat near to each other. They appear to enjoy socializing at a reasonable distance.

Some people are jealous of us because we have learned to roll with the punches and enjoy every day. Now it is time for us to brush our teeth, go for a walk around Hogeye, and get a carry-out calzone on our way home.

vintageogauge 04-17-2020 01:33 PM

My concern is the influx of New York area people even more concern now that Cuomo extended the "stay at home" until May 15th. A lot of NY license plates out there and if they are fresh arrivals there will be trouble down the road.

dewilson58 04-17-2020 02:05 PM

Surge???.................Yes, thanks to all the golfers.


:shocked:

daphnie 04-17-2020 03:19 PM

Not all New Yorkers are in a hot spot. My county has 18 active cases. 30 recoveries 2 deaths. It’s worse there than central and upstate NY

npwalters 04-17-2020 04:11 PM

If I did the math right the 68 folks are .004% of TV population.

Gpsma 04-17-2020 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1748233)
If I did the math right the 68 folks are .004% of TV population.

Stop talking common sense.

2BNTV 04-17-2020 04:36 PM

My doctor said the curve is still rising but I think we will be alright in several weeks assuming we practice social distancing.

My prediction is May 15th for all of Florida.

But then, what do I know? We can only hope for the best.

sail33or 04-17-2020 04:38 PM

Music in the Squares in 2 weeks. Rec Centers and pools open in 4 weeks.

QUIT LISTENING TO THE MEDIA.

Velvet 04-17-2020 04:39 PM

Now that is funny.

sail33or 04-17-2020 04:39 PM

Texas will lead the way and maybe Florida will follow.

Sail41 04-17-2020 05:26 PM

Those cured
 
We always hear and read about the number of those affected with the virus, but nowhere do we hear about the number of people who have been cured or those released from the hospitals. I think if they counted those cured or no longer affected, the numbers would be far less. But, that doesn't scare people and sell papers or tv.

billethkid 04-17-2020 05:31 PM

Amateur/desperate reporter making a banquet out of a ham sandwich!!!!

skarra 04-17-2020 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1748168)
My concern is the influx of New York area people even more concern now that Cuomo extended the "stay at home" until May 15th. A lot of NY license plates out there and if they are fresh arrivals there will be trouble down the road.

So if Cuomo didn't extend the stay at home order and they were free to roam everywhere, there would be less people from NYC traveling to the Villages? That doesn't make sense.

DianeM 04-17-2020 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1748270)
Amateur/desperate reporter making a banquet out of a ham sandwich!!!!

Fantastic analogy

Beyond The Wall 04-17-2020 06:34 PM

Numbers dont lie. Great job pointing it out

vintageogauge 04-17-2020 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 1748274)
So if Cuomo didn't extend the stay at home order and they were free to roam everywhere, there would be less people from NYC traveling to the Villages? That doesn't make sense.

That's the problem, they are free to roam as the restrictions are not enforced.

ONTAP15 04-17-2020 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1748168)
My concern is the influx of New York area people even more concern now that Cuomo extended the "stay at home" until May 15th. A lot of NY license plates out there and if they are fresh arrivals there will be trouble down the road.

Two families that I know, left NY in order to get out of harms way. Both are long time owners and are practicing social distancing and quarantined themselves for 2 weeks. As long as they are abiding by the rules, they or anyone from any state ,have a perfect right to come to their homes in TV. Apparently you think New Yorkers, who are under immense pressure from CV, are ignorant. We are not.

vintageogauge 04-17-2020 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONTAP15 (Post 1748308)
Two families that I know, left NY in order to get out of harms way. Both are long time owners and are practicing social distancing and quarantined themselves for 2 weeks. As long as they are abiding by the rules, they or anyone from any state ,have a perfect right to come to their homes in TV. Apparently you think New Yorkers, who are under immense pressure from CV, are ignorant. We are not.

That's 2 families out of over 20,000 documented people that have entered the state from the NY Metro area. Do you really think they are all self quarantined? I doubt it very much. And I'm not saying they're ignorant, they are not obeying their governors orders. We would like to go up to Ohio and visit our children and grandchildren but we know we're not supposed to so here we stay.

tsmall22204 04-18-2020 05:55 AM

That is just not true. Why do you feel the need to spread such lies

Leadbone1 04-18-2020 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1748189)
Surge???.................Yes, thanks to all the golfers.


:shocked:

What a ridiculous remark !

Gmb727 04-18-2020 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1748233)
If I did the math right the 68 folks are .004% of TV population.

I hate when those pesky facts get in the way of a shocking headlines.

GoodLife 04-18-2020 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1748233)
If I did the math right the 68 folks are .004% of TV population.

You might want to recalculate by including an estimate for asymptomatic/undiagnosed cases. Stanford study shows 50-85 times confirmed cases have been exposed to virus.

Skunky1 04-18-2020 06:34 AM

If you wish to congregate, get a beer and a hotdog, just go behind Palmer country club.

MOMOH 04-18-2020 06:40 AM

No one in their right mind wants to come here during love-bug season, and it seems to be starting early. And if they do, it will chase them back!

Travelhunter 04-18-2020 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1748243)
Music in the Squares in 2 weeks. Rec Centers and pools open in 4 weeks.

QUIT LISTENING TO THE MEDIA.

Is this official

JonWilliams 04-18-2020 06:51 AM

Asymptomatic cases
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1748414)
You might want to recalculate by including an estimate for asymptomatic/undiagnosed cases. Stanford study shows 50-85 times confirmed cases have been exposed to virus.

UFHealth's study of asymptomatic people who thought they had been exposed to the virus: 2100 people tested at the Polo Grounds so far, with three positive for COVID-19. That's .1%. Reported in The Villages Daily Sun, April 15.

Travelhunter 04-18-2020 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1748414)
You might want to recalculate by including an estimate for asymptomatic/undiagnosed cases. Stanford study shows 50-85 times confirmed cases have been exposed to virus.

I remember when N.Y. had 68 cases. I hope we reached the peak here

davem4616 04-18-2020 06:58 AM

all I could think of after reading the OP was a memory of Howard Cosell drawing out the phrase "He-- could--go--all-- the-- way--this --- could --come ---back ---to -- haunt---them!!" as a defender intercepted a pass and ran it back for a TD

now in my best Rocky Bellboa voice: ADRIAN...you ain't got no crystal ball, so stop spreading fear

bd20166 04-18-2020 06:59 AM

Did the WSJ call the market crash? They are no different than the MSM.

Micki 04-18-2020 07:11 AM

I’ve seen people congregating all over The Villages, especially in the stores. I also know many people, including myself, are praying Psalm 91 over all of you, my neighbors. The power of God is far greater than the power of a virus. If we were going to spike wouldn’t we be seeing it now? Sixty eight people out of more than 100,000 is .07%. I think rather than believing ongoing news reports about a spike coming, its time to thank God for His Divine protection.

Psalm 91
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High
shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress:
my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler,
and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers,
and under his wings shalt thou trust:
his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night;
nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness;
nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side,
and ten thousand at thy right hand;
but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold
and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge,
even the most High, thy habitation;
10 there shall no evil befall thee,
neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee,
to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands,
lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:
the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him:
I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him:
I will be with him in trouble;
I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him,
and shew him my salvation.

Rsenholzi 04-18-2020 07:16 AM

😳 beaches in Jacksonville opened
 
This is scary since Fl hasn’t even been quarantined a month yet. What is wrong with the coidiots running this state! Are they trying to kill off the seniors and make social security last longer?

MandoMan 04-18-2020 07:21 AM

I read that Wall Street Journal article, and there were a number of errors. It seems to be the work of a stringer desperate to get her name in the paper, drawn from letters to editors and out-of-date statistics. In this case, surprisingly, the ************** is probably more accurate than the WSJ. The article is a bit like those trash journalism pieces from years ago that keep being mentioned about there being waves of STDs in The Villages. Turned out there were two or three more cases than usual, but still far less than Florida as a whole. But it sold a lot of newspapers. This is the real fake news, people, yet it still ends up on the television. All those people in the town squares? Most of them looked way too young to be living here. I think they were visitors from outside The Villages. But does that get reported? No.

The Villages has almost nothing but single family homes, and nearly all have only one or two people living there, and they all have room to be outdoors in the sun. Social distancing and quarantining is easy. There is plenty of room to walk and ride bicycles or go for rides in golf carts, even if we can’t swim or golf right now. This is much safer than urban neighborhoods where people are packed together. So keep your distance, keep up your courage, don’t panic, and we will get through this.

GoodLife 04-18-2020 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonWilliams (Post 1748451)
UFHealth's study of asymptomatic people who thought they had been exposed to the virus: 2100 people tested at the Polo Grounds so far, with three positive for COVID-19. That's .1%. Reported in The Villages Daily Sun, April 15.

UF test was for active virus, Stanford test was for antibodies.

ficoguy 04-18-2020 07:28 AM

We all gonna die sometime....just not all at once...
The media loves to pint out The Villages for everything, so why not this.
If the surge doesn't happen, will they be happy? Or disappointed? Inquiring minds want to know...

stan the man 04-18-2020 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sail41 (Post 1748267)
We always hear and read about the number of those affected with the virus, but nowhere do we hear about the number of people who have been cured or those released from the hospitals. I think if they counted those cured or no longer affected, the numbers would be far less. But, that doesn't scare people and sell papers or tv.

I would really like to know how many of the COVID virus deaths were actually people who died from influenza with pre-existing conditions and counted as COVID deaths 2018 Sumter county 29 deaths from influenza

ficoguy 04-18-2020 07:41 AM

You mean line dancers...who can't even stay a foot away from each other. And were dancing to WVLG in the squares, even though they were closed and there was yellow barrier tape put up. Yea, golfers.....

NotGolfer 04-18-2020 07:46 AM

I just watched a video of a report of a study out of Stanford University. I don't know how to transfer it here...but it's pretty astounding what their findings found. Anyone whose more technically proficient than me, probably could find it and share it. Steve Deace was the one who was sharing it...if that would help. It actually gave hope instead of fear!!

ficoguy 04-18-2020 08:01 AM

Odd, how 2 communities in NJ ( Lakewood and Teaneck ) with large concentrations of religious orthodox have caused NJ's surge...but nary a word on that in the alarmist media...in fact, Gov. Murphy said any finger pointing or singling out of particular communities would be a hate crime....but it's not a hate crime to single out The Villages....


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