Why isn't everyone wearing a mask?
 

Wearing any type of mask when outside or inside and around people is as much for the protection of others as much as for the person wearing it. Unless people wear a mask that filters out 0.125 micron size particles, it won't completely protect anyone from inhaling or exhaling COVID19. However, any mask certainly helps diminish the spread. So my question to all of you who choose to not wear a mask when around others is why? I do not mean this to be sarcastic, I'm looking for honest information.

Guidelines just changed and people don't have masks.

Maybe because you cannot find such masks in any local store. Tired of chasing around looking for toilet paper, hand sanitizer, sanitizing wipes, gloves, masks,etc. You can order online at inflated prices, but delivery dates are delayed or uncertain.

4 plus weeks ago I took a chance and ordered 4 N95 masks from Amazon. I was already set but I ordered them in case I could help a neighbor. Yesterday my wife went and got the mail and their was a USPS envelope with one flimsy white with a blue outline mask in the envelope. What a joke. The charge was just $39.95.

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished!! Now to get the money back they want me to pay the postage to the company that shipped it which meant I would have to enter the Post Office which ain't happening. I guess I'll be on hold with Amazon today. What a shame.

Update: no telephone contact with Amazon until this situation is over. I have patience. I can wait.

This going to fall in the dog poop category

I'm skeptical, but am I the only one who finds it very strange that simple things like masks, toilet paper, hand sanitizers, and thermometers are not readily available everywhere? What's the deal?

If you have a tee shirt or a scarf you have a mask!!

A few weeks ago I posted a thread titled "we've been had" about masks/no masks which was deleted.

Not sure why but it's kind of funny viewing current events.

Whenever I have ordered anything from Amazon, I can log on, click "my orders" and then click "return item". Then, I can print out a shipping label. Sometimes, I even get a credit on my account before I even return the item. I didn't know that you can't do that with all Amazon orders. Also, if you paid with a credit card, you can dispute the charge with your bank, since you didn't get what you ordered.

Masks are key to getting back to slightly new normal
 

Please wear a mask. It's an easy measure to protect against a deadly problem. If we all wear masks we can eradicate the threat almost entirely - all must Americans need to participate and we can go back to a slightly modified normal. Masks are the key to getting out of this thing. A long sleeve T-shirt can be a mask. Please realize the seriousness of this and respect your family/neighbors. I love you; and all of humanity enough to wear a mask outside my home.

That's nice. But you don't need to wear a mask all the time. Just when you can't reasonably guarantee 6 foot separation. So, grocery stores, post office, inside gas station, yes. Walking alone outside or riding in your cart or a bicycle, no. I saw a guy inside his car with the windows up driving alone with a mask---give me a break.

N95 masks will protect you from infection...95% of the time, if used properly. Almost all other types of masks do more to protect others from you. They will reduce the spread of the droplets released when you cough, sneeze or speak. A SARS virus is 50 nanometers. A nanometer is a thousand times smaller than a micron.

OP, finally got some masks today, prior to this I would carry a handkerchief and hold it over my face when in public places.

An excellent question, with an answer that is all too obvious...they're selfish, ignorant and don't care about others.


To those types of people I say; "Your right for personal freedom and choice ENDS... when it becomes a danger to me or my loved ones." :mad:


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I can only speak for suburban Chicago. TP and hand sanitizer are now much more widely available, although quantities are limited per customer to avoid hoarding. Yesterday I was able to purchase both one pack of TP and one bottle of hand sanitizer at my local Target store. Thermometers were available on Amazon a couple of weeks ago. Masks...many people are selling cloth masks on etsy.com. I have purchased several cloth masks on Etsy.

For hand sanitizer online, try Luxurious Skincare Products - Vitabath Bath and Body 16 ounce bottle for $8.95. I ordered 2 bottles yesterday. Orders are being processed in the order they are received.

How can they not have masks when any covering will work? They don’t have t shirt, no pillow cases, no scarves, no towels... I think what they don’t have is the will to be considerate to others. So the old guy dies who the f... cares?

Then there is the other side, have seen couples in their cars, windows up and wearing masks.

I do that sometimes wear a mask with windows up, because I plan to go out of the car in the near future and be among people so I won’t forget the mask . And the windows are up to keep in the air conditioning.

The CDC recommends use of non-medical, cloth-based face coverings in some public settings. Medical masks should be reserved for healthcare workers. A cut and paste from the CDC. Be the outlaw you always wanted to be!

Yep, and in some areas north people are starting to walk around with stones in their pockets... they’re afraid for their lives. Everyone knows how to play hardball.

Today I saw a couple and both had masks BUT the cat and the dog they had in the grocery store were not wearing any. Does that make sense? Can't those pets carry the virus? Don't know, just asking. Personally I'm not real fond of cats, dogs, or whatever in the grocery store. Leader dogs yes. Companion dogs, no.
Just my opinion though so don't throw rocks

Cats and dogs, as far as we know so far, can’t transmit to people but can get the virus from people themselves.

If social distancing, no mask is needed.


CDC recommendation: In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.


So not everyone needs one.

This whole "comfort animal" think in public...has gotten WAAAAY out of hand.

Seeing-eye dogs in grocery/other stores?

Absolutely and of course...no problem.

TRAINED dogs to detect strokes/heart attacks/etc?

Again...no problem.

Bringing Fifi into public places, because she makes you happy...and calms you down?

NFW!

Either leave the animal at home...or find a new way to shop.

You know who you are. :mad:

masks
 

as I wear glasses, I cannot wear a mask. My glasses steam up and I can't see. This has been happening since I was a child at Halloween....

I do however wear gloves.

That means the mask is not tight enough to the face and your breath is coming out at the top of the mask (and that breathing in brings in outside air!!).

If you bring the mask/material far enough up under your eyes to adequately cover the nose area this usually provides more of a seal and stops the breath coming out the top.

Yes the bottom of your glasses will be over the mask.
Works for me.

IF social distancing, totally agree.

Same happens to me so I clean my sunglasses with a cloth when I’m further from people. The other thing is to seal the mask with bandaid or skin tape near the nose.

I have not tried this, but I read that if you clean your glasses with shaving foam, they won't fog up.

True, I haven’t thought of that but we do have cleaners for mirrors that are anti-fog too.

I wear glasses also, I was in a medical facility recently, they gave me a PAPER mask with a wire to form around the nose area, no matter how I formed this there was leakage and some steaming of the glasses, however, with the homemade CLOTH masks this is not a problem, no steaming at all. There is a Villager selling these for $3 each, bought 4 and both my wife and I are very pleased with these. Found her on the classified ads.:coolsmiley:

Why no wearing a mask. Can't buy them anywhere. Yes I can and so wear a cloth mask but the value is being questioned. Better than nothing but some concern about 2 -3 % effective. Doubt if it is a well studied analysis.

Betsy McCaughey: Homemade Masks Only 2 Percent Effective | Newsmax.com

I suspect the main reason for promoting the "almost any material will do" masks is to keep the stampede away from the surgical/hospital type.

Betsy McCaughey is not a reliable source of information. She's been caught by fact-checkers making up utter fiction about anything she disagrees with, on numerous occasions since she was kicked out of the Democratic party and switched to the Liberal Party, and then to the RNC.

Newsmax is also not a reliable source of information, since it is decisively anti-vaxx, anti-science, and pro-corporate-profit ultra conservative.

Homemade masks can help prevent YOUR germs from spreading to OTHER people. That is why you would wear them, even if you believe yourself to be healthy. Since there are people who test positive for COVID-19, but have no symptoms, it is safer for the public if everyone wears a mask, so as to reduce the risk of having the virus and spreading it among the populace.

They also can help reduce your instances of touching your face, being a physical barrier between hand and face.

They might also help reduce the risk of catching germs from other people, but only marginally.

At some point I'd hope It would be possible for the stores to bulk order non-medical disposable masks to dispense to those who come without.

That'd be awesome. They're on short supply right now though. Even employees typically only get one per day - if they touched the mask to scratch an itch under it - or had to take it off to eat on their break - they have to re-use it.

you don't know what you are talking about -- we are not mandated to wear masks -- I will continue to keep my 6 foot perimeter and I won't put useless cotton on my face == hello = I worked in an OR for 30 years and I laugh everyday when I see these idiots wearing masks riding their bikes, in their golfcarts, even alone in the cars -- do you people really think that there is viral cloud with droplets of the virus ready to attack you -- ridiculous

Well I wish it was that way as I am accustomed to exactly what you typed. In this case the label that you print out has the return address and I get to pay the postage and they claim that the contents have been switched as I found out after I got Jacked Up. Trust me it's a total set up.

This is what Amazon classifies as a third party seller. B.S. I do business and pay my bill to Amazon and they will return the chump change #39.95 if its the last thing I do!

I have come to find out that this is a common practice with this company. They have hammered plenty of others before me. The picture and description of the item is perfect for N95 masks. Not a piece of paper with two elastic bands on them.

Their return policies are pretty clear. If it isn't sold by AND shipped by Amazon, then it's considered a 3rd party sale and returns are at the discretion of the seller, not Amazon. If the seller doesn't accept returns, then there's no returns.

Amazon, in this case, is the middle-man. They take your money on behalf of the seller. They collect a fee from the sale because it was sold through their company, but they aren't the ones selling the product.

Just like buying a third-party product from walmart.com. If they aren't the actual seller, they're not responsible for refunding you if it's not a good sale. The seller is responsible for it - and only if they offer refunds and returns in their policy.