Baden's autopsy concludes Floyd's death was caused by asphyxia
 

By compression on the neck as the video shows.

George Floyd'''s family releases independent autopsy showing death caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure | Fox News

To be fair, I just have one question. How can an autopsy paid for by Floyd's family be called an "independent" review?

Because Baden is a Fox News contributor??

Because most of the free world understands what the word "independent" means. It doesn't mean "unbiased." It means "not connected to or affiliated with...[insert thing here]."

In the case of the autopsy, it is independent of the preliminary autopsy performed by the coroner's office.

He has quite a high profile history, JFK, MLK Jr. and more.

PATHOLOGIST IN SIMPSON TRIAL SAYS VICTIMS STRUGGLED LONG AND HARD - Chicago Tribune

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...stein-autopsy/

How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.

No surprise.

And to foreshadow a bit, it's my experience that any medical testimony offered at trial just confuses the jury and puts them to sleep anyway.

What is the difference between Baden's autopsy and the one done by the ME?

Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.

Like most paid litigation experts, Baden's report is drafted to fit the narrative of the side who is paying him...no credibility.

So Floyd was an ex-con. Aggravated robbery is a BIG DEAL FELONY! I did not know that and had actually heard that he was a "gentle giant" and so on. All I can say is WOW! That speaks loud and clear about his actual character!

I honestly don't know but am curious... what exactly is "aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon"?

It sure sounds like a robbery with a deadly weapon?

I have never committed a robbery, much less with a "deadly weapon".

Would you agree George is not a model citizen? Robbery with a deadly weapon? Hmm... not diminishing his death or the circumstances, which I agree is abhorrent, but nationwide destruction over this? George doesn't sound like Mother Theresa.

Could you please rectify the two statements in bold? Or is it just the usual TOTV oxymoron?

Interesting that every time a black is "murdered by the police" he is a felon with criminal history.

How come they cannot find a model citizen with clean record to protest about?

And once again, the attempts to try and justify the death of an unarmed black man AFTER the fact...starts. :ohdear:

yeah, i still don't see justification for what the cops did, though. we need to keep to the facts @ hand, which is 1 dead person from needless force. and i'd be careful about baden, too: he & his wife seem a bit slimey.

Cold... you're quite the virtue signaler. I understand you. You're not dumb. You have a strange viewpoint, and one that MANY/MOST posters disagree with, but I don't believe I've read anyone attempt to justify the death of Mr. Floyd. For you to attempt such an amateurish stretch gives me a chuckle into your lack of argument.

I don't know what the motivation or thought process was of that cop. But what he did was wrong. He will have to face the consequences of his actions.

for what it's worth, the cop's wife left him, & he was placed on suicide watch, so yeah, consequences are with him

Exactly. And look at this guys reputation. He has been used to conduct additional autopsies on controversial cases involving police and always has results which favor the family. Thats why they selected him. Plus, if he didnt give the results the family wanted, they would have requested 1000 more until they got what they wanted.

Absolutely. His past reputation is the reason he was hired. Look at all the other second autopsies he conducted, that contradicted the original and favored whoever was paying him. All, interestingly enough, are police shootings. Open your eyes people. This guy and his tactics are fraud

Let the character assassination begin in order to justify the murder. Nothing new here.

That’s not being fair but judgmental. A trained physician preformed an autopsy without collaboration with the coroner, i.e., independently. Come in now.

What? You blindly accept autopsies performed that exonerate the police?

Yes maybe George had a criminal background but people change and it seems he had changed, he was working several jobs until Covid-19 set in. It’s totally a disgrace what that policeman did it hurts my heart. We are all the same so please let us respect each other.

Yes people are forgetting he was a criminal. All he had to do was get in the police car. But they always fight and say they didn’t do nothing wrong. Yes the police officer did go too far and yes they should have called maybe a SUV police vehicle since he was saying he can’t sit in the back of the car. I wouldn’t know what it’s like sitting back of a police car, never been in one. He shouldn’t have died like that, but we didn’t hear everything going on or what was said. Police can’t do anything anymore to fight against these criminals because we have too many bleeding hearts. Bet they would change their mind if one of these “innocent” people committed a crime against them, then the story would change.

He was unarmed. He was handcuffed. He was bleeding from the mouth. Why not put him into the police car instead of throw him on the ground and stab your knee into his neck so he can't breathe and dies?

The Official autopsy show he died of heart

Why?

Because the police thought they could get away with it...just as has happened so many times in the past. :ohdear:

2 things, both coroners autopsy's agree as of today that he died by strangulation which caused coronary failure. The ME,s report last week was a preliminary report that just showed the obvious. This happens a lot. But it was stated last night on Fox that both agree on cause of death.

2nd about his past convictions. Please do not assume that someone is an angel just because they have not been caught. On the other hand, do not assume they have not changed after serving time for a violent crime. Fact is, we just don't know what he has really been doing since his release. Unless you are close to him, and doubt anyone here is.

The bottom line is, the police did something really stupid and negligent and the were wrong and will and should answer to it in court.

Exactly.

Especially from a white county ME, who works with the police and would have plenty of incentive to try and make us all believe...we didn't really see what we saw. :oops:

Just imagine if the video didn't exist. :ohdear:

I accept the judgment that he was essentially kept from breathing by pressure on his back and neck. That was the cause of death. That autopsy, though, didn’t mention that he was high on Fentanyl and had used meth in the previous couple days. This may help explain why he wasn’t entirely rational when he was being arrested. That doesn’t excuse his treatment at all, but it should not be forgotten.

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Why do you spread untruths and fail to mention that the policeman who murdered Floyd had 18 complaints against him including some for the use of deadly force? Your post is a disgrace and throws fuel on the fire when we need healing, not hurt.

Yep
 

Yep and those who say Oh my he had a record well maybe the cops didn't murder him as if it was no big loss.. THOSE people are the ones who are responsible for most of the madness IMO.. Even the worst of the worst convicted to death get their day in court..

If only everyone felt the same way, instead of the raging narcissism of...."what will make me look the best?" :ohdear:

He was originally be arrested for trying to buy cigarettes with a counterfeit $20 bill.

Some reports are saying that he gave the police a very bad time before the video started.

Please read an article from Christianity Today dated May 28, titled "George Floyd Left a Gospel Legacy in Houston". He had been doing good work in the past several years and it is unfortunate that you and others want to focus on the mistakes of his past. People change. He did not deserve this.

"Some reports" are saying that the cop was a racist...even in elementary school.

I've heard the officer's record of complaints mentioned many more times than I've heard the background of George Floyd or the fact that he was being arrested for committing a crime.

According to some, he was simply walking down the street minding his own business and the police just attacked and killed him. That is what is throwing fuel on the fire.

None of us have heard all of the evidence. We don't know what happened prior to the video. I admit that it does look bad for this officer, but I'll reserve judgement until I know all of the facts.

And that right there is the crux of this current problem. People are coming to conclusions before all fo the facts are known and that has what has added fuel to the fire.