Things that won't save Black lives.
 

Lets start with the big one, the reason all these protests and riots started.

Police brutality: Cops arrest about 10-12 million people per year, Last year Police killed 19 unarmed white people and 9 unarmed black people. If you say Police arrest more blacks per capita, I'll agree and remind you that blacks commit more crimes per capita. Lower your crime rate and you will lower your interaction with Police.

So if you completely eliminate Police killings of unarmed blacks, you will have reduced black deaths per year by the same amount as an average Sunday in Chicago.

Protests/Riots: Not a single black life will be saved, in fact several have been killed

Pulling down statues of Confederate Generals: Go ahead, it will have zero effect on saving black lives.

Renaming Forts: Nada, zip, zero

Defunding Police: This one is a big zero too. I've read articles saying there's too much Police in Black neighborhoods, and articles saying they need more Police. Actually, Police in many cities have lowered death rates of black shooting victims because they were instructed to take victims direct to hospitals instead of waiting for ambulances.

Autonomous Zones: If you allow armed citizens to patrol their own neighborhoods the gangs will infiltrate/bribe their way to control. Result, more killings.

All of the above is just theater, it's not going to actually solve the problem and save black lives. The biggest impact on saving black lives would be reducing the thousands of homicides committed every year by blacks on blacks.

But as Family Guy shows in video below, nobody wants to talk about that.

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You nailed it

Simple............it's not good theater.

Steve

Walter E. Williams: The true plight of black Americans
By Walter E. Williams Jun 10, 2020

White liberals and black politicians focus most of their attention on what the police do, but how relevant is that to the overall tragedy? According to Statista, this year, 172 whites and 88 blacks have died at the hands of police. To put police shootings in a bit of perspective, in Chicago alone in 2020 there have been 1,260 shootings and 256 homicides with blacks being the primary victims. That comes to one shooting victim every three hours and one homicide victim every 15 hours. Three people in Chicago have been killed by police. If one is truly concerned about black deaths, shootings by police should figure way down on one's list – which is not to excuse bad behavior by some police officers.
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BTW - below> a picture of Walter Willams...

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https://www.nvdaily.com/nvdaily/walt...d370f7e6d.html

Taking over a part of the city and not allowing police in like in Seattle will do nothing to save black lives!

Speaking of theater, the media is really good at casting good guys and bad guys

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Well said.

I'll add, it is amazing how a show like The Family Guy can hit the nail on the head and it goes right over the intended target audience's head.

Seth McFarlane, creator and also voice actor at Family Guy is a genius. I think he's fairly liberal but he skewers just about everybody.

leave me alone
 

financially it is to my advantage to always be the victim. leave me and my bros alone.

I used to think that way as well. Need to dig deeper into the underlying issues such as poverty, systemic and institutionalized racism. Just because there are many black on black homicides does not mean police killings should be ignored. Need to get out from our cocoon.

Large cities and urban areas like Chicago have been defunding police for years along with most other public services because of costs and decreased tax revenue. How's that working out for you. I can't imagine what the next few years are going to look like if cities purposely defund and dismantle police. I'm sure residents will be scattering like rats to move to a much more low key area so that will decrease even more tax base and will decrease even more public services so that will let the criminals run rampant even more than they are today. It's going to be an everlasting never ending downward spiral. This is the first time I can remember ever being glad I'm old and won't have to see much more destruction of America but I seriously worry about my Grandson and the life he will have to grow up in.

I don’t the police are arresting these people for singing too loudly in church.

Yes let’s do nothing
Blame the poorest
Keep our heads in the sand
This post is well written white speak
I suggest you walk a mile in another mans moccasins

Do you think this may be a factor?

https://www.educationnext.org/files/...ahan_fig01.jpg

From the New York Times of all places.

Yet 20 years ago, Martin Luther King Jr. spoke candidly about the black family, spelling out the ''alarming'' statistics on ''the rate of illegitimacy,'' the increase in female-headed households and the rise in families on welfare. The black family, King asserted, had become ''fragile, deprived and often psychopathic.''

RESTORING THE TRADITIONAL BLACK FAMILY - The New York Times

You obviously watch Faux News and you lack understanding of the history of this country. Sad, just sad. I wonder what you would say if that was your son with a knee on his throat. There but the grace of god go you.

“White speak”, Faux news.....yes more decisive language will solve the problems of individuals gone bad.

No one gave up on the police killing. All four officers have been charged. There is no excuse for the rioting and killing aftermath. It just becomes one more example of a serious character flaw.
Regarding systemic issues, Education looms the largest. Blacks, historically do not take their basic K-12 education seriously which puts them immediately behind the 8 ball.
As a white person, the only thing I can do is protest against an educational system that accepts this character flaw. As a system, we should not allow anyone to advance a grade or graduate without meeting acceptable standards.
Ask Asian Americans or Indians how they overcame discrimination in the country?

Racism, reverse racism. BET, BLM, NAACP, UNCF, etc.

If the protests, riots, looting, and violence are supposed to improve bad race relations, it's not working. In my opinion, it's making the situation worse.

It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance, and are so very proud of it!! One can easily see those who solely watch Fox News clearly because they can only speak words given to them by Fox. They don’t have their own thoughts, they don’t read anything else, they don’t understand the difference between fact and fiction.

The systemic issue in this country is the insistence of some to see themselves as superior to others. Until that is resolved, you will have racism. The issue of needless killings by police must be addressed and resolved. Cities must be much more thorough in checking the backgrounds of the people they hire to serve and protect. 90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. Forget color, forget nationality, forget religion, forget who people choose to love!! We all breath the same air, bleed the same way, put our clothes on the same way, go to the bathroom the same way. Once that is accepted, racism will disappear.

[QUOTE=soniak4@gmail.com;1783234]It’s amazing to me how readily some people are willing to show their ignorance,



90% of our police forces are good men and women with spotless backgrounds. They serve our communities proudly and well. The 10% who are brutal, licensed killers, must be weeded out with in depth background checks. /QUOTE]


80,000 bad cops??.........support this number.

You do realize that the term whitespeak is racist and offensive, don’t you?

You have a good point at the end. However, very few will ever get to it because the beginning is so ridiculous, without any basis in fact, and offensive. I’m betting you don’t Even watch Fox News and are merely using the trite idea given to you by CNN. Also saying that 10% of cops are brutal licensed killers is so ignorant, I won’t even comment on it.

Race shouldn’t matter. But to think we will ever get to the point of no racism is ignorant also. This world is made up of people. People who will think they are better than others because of the news channel they watch, race, and many other reasons. We can only punish crimes committed, not be thought police. And with the constant proclamation of the first black ( fill in position or accomplishment) first female x, first Hispanic y, good luck getting people to ignore race, gender, religion

Very well put.

Do you really think that 10% of the police are brutal licensed killers? Wow.

Ever consider that when people do not commit crimes they have less contact with the police. Or do you think that because we are law abiding citizens we are racist?

Don't be confusing things with facts, they don't fit the narrative!

I agree with you. However, we should also note that a lot of young police officers of all shades and ethnicities start off with great intentions, ready to make a difference. Then they get assigned to a neighborhood where they see criminal behavior all around them and are cursed, lied to, shown disrespect, attacked. Soon, some of those with good intentions will change their minds and learn to hate. It’s a very difficult situation.

Yep
 

Very Well Put !! I agree.

It’s interesting how the media spits out a catch phrase and people repeat it like it’s true. The latest favorites are “systemic and institutionalized racism“. Not based on any facts or statistics, but automatically accepted and regurgitated back out. You “feel” police are systematically racist? Show me the numbers that support that false narrative.

Sorry, but you've got it exactly backwards about those who watch Fox News Channel. How can they (Fox) influence anyone who already has conservative beliefs? It's the only network conservatives can stomach, because the actual fiction in the media is being put out by CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. all who produce fiction on a daily basis. You don't think we've looked at other media sources? Sorry, but we have and can't reconcile what they're putting out with what we see and experience in our daily lives.

Also, please cite an accepted reference that says 10% of all police are brutal murderers. You actually just plucked that number from the ether because you have no concept of math. As an example, Wildwood Police Dept. has 1,300 officers, so by your numbers 130 are brutal, racist murderers. I'm sure you can find a story online or in a newspaper informing all us about it. I'll be waiting...

One thing I’ve notice while reading the crime reports in the tri-county area is that a large percentage of the arrests are due to drugs, especially marijuana. Often, only a small amount is found, clearly for personal use. Many states have decriminalized simple possession or use of marijuana or even legalized it. One of the big pushes is to legalize it nationwide, partly because millions of people with criminal records due to marijuana would have those records expunged. This affects all ethnicities. While I don’t use it and wouldn’t start and think legalizing it would be a mistake, legalizing it would certainly lead to a big decrease in policing, arrests, court crowding, and incarceration or other punishments. Think how many hours it takes two cops to make a marijuana arrest, take the person to the precinct, write up the report, Show up in court, wait for hours to testify for two minutes, etc. One joint could easily take a total of 16 hours of police time used up, and we pay for that!

Of course, would it lead to better-educated kids? No way! Fewer teenage pregnancies? Not likely! Fewer shootings? I doubt it! But it could save money.

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This post is well written white speak

Thank you! I am indeed white and write well because both my parents were teachers.

You obviously watch Faux News

Not. I rarely watch network news broadcasts. Too much spin not enough actual reporting. However, if one only watched CNN and MSNBC news, for 3 years they were fed a pack of lies about Russian collusion and ended up very disappointed when zero people were prosecuted for it. Under oath testimony of all those who spread those lies shows they never saw any evidence of it. Must have been a big disappointment. Another big surprise is coming soon when several individuals at the FBI receive indictments for lying to the FISA court, leaking classified info to press etc and engineering the Russian collusion scam.

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Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your 'systemic issue' will never be resolved. You cannot pass a law to make people feel differently or to eliminate prejudice and/or racism. Humans, just as animals will almost always gravitate toward their own kind. That is human characteristic. In depth background checks can only weed out past actions, it cannot weed out a persons true feelings. I'd say there are very few people, if any that could forget religion, color, nationality or anything else about their personal makeup.