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manaboutown 07-02-2020 01:25 PM

I didn't realize an 18 year old could reside in The Villages
 
18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

JoMar 07-02-2020 02:01 PM

They can't but evidently the neighbors were ok with it and didn't make the call. It continues to be our responsibility to either accept or reject those that disregard the deed restrictions they signed up for when they purchased. It's your neighborhood.

njbchbum 07-02-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796510)
18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

I'd feel better that if there was something to be changed with the law that allows him to be out of jail! Perhaps there has been an exception due to some behavior/medical issue.

John41 07-02-2020 02:34 PM

the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

biker1 07-02-2020 03:01 PM

That is an “inside the house” issue and is enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards.

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796510)
18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.


alwann 07-02-2020 03:09 PM

Enforced
 
I've never read or heard where the developer has ever enforced an inside the house covenant violation. Anyone know? Not to say it hasn't but would reassure us if we were informed that rules are being enforced.

Jayhawk 07-02-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1796534)
the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed

It's the LAW, but don't let that cloud your negative view.

Topspinmo 07-02-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1796523)
They can't but evidently the neighbors were ok with it and didn't make the call. It continues to be our responsibility to either accept or reject those that disregard the deed restrictions they signed up for when they purchased. It's your neighborhood.


Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

Jayhawk 07-02-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1796566)
Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?

Bogie Shooter 07-02-2020 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=John41;1796534]the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed[/QUOTE]

Some never miss a chance .......

Jayhawk 07-02-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1796570)

Some never miss a chance .......

Gospel.

dewilson58 07-02-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796510)
18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother .


Was he there more than 30 days??:shrug:

dewilson58 07-02-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1796566)
Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old?t.


Nothing in the requirements regarding the age of homeowner children in order to own property.

dewilson58 07-02-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1796568)
Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?




Having a young child is not an issue.

manaboutown 07-02-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1796568)
Maybe the rule breaker (mom) lied about having an under 19. How is that "all about the money"?

That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia

vintageogauge 07-02-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796579)
That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia

It doesn't say she owns the villa, she may well be a tenant and the owner didn't give a crap about the restrictions.

manaboutown 07-02-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1796606)
It doesn't say she owns the villa, she may well be a tenant and the owner didn't give a crap about the restrictions.

Whether his mother is an owner or tenant doesn't really matter. What matters is he at age 18 is residing in Fenney.

billethkid 07-02-2020 05:19 PM

How does one or how did one find out the ages of people in a given house?

kathyspear 07-02-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796579)
"There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia

If this person has reached his 18th birthday he isn't "under the age of 18" so I don't understand the age issue.

Confused ...

kathy

Taltarzac725 07-02-2020 06:40 PM

That sounds accurate. That this man is 18 or over. Then he could live here in the Villages without breaking a covenant.

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1796642)
If this person has reached his 18th birthday he isn't "under the age of 18" so I don't understand the age issue.

Confused ...

kathy


JoMar 07-02-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1796566)
Thought they couldn’t sell new home to someone who had children less than 19 years old? Nobody monitoring or give a ____ all about the money. Once in they expect someone to rat them out.

That's correct, but if they don't divulge they are bringing someone under 19 how would they know? The moral dilemma for many is after they live here a kid or grandkid gets into trouble and they take them in. Until it becomes an issue for the neighbors nothing will be done. It's your neighborhood.

JoMar 07-02-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1796545)
That is an “inside the house” issue and is enforced by the Developer and not Community Standards.

Community Standards forward inside house complaints to the Developer. They do follow up and you can follow up as well.

JoMar 07-02-2020 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;1796570]
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1796534)
the developer sold them the house knowing that 20 percent can be under 55 just to make a quick buck. greed[/QUOTE]

Some never miss a chance .......

Now that's just wrong

Buckeyephan 07-02-2020 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1796667)
Community Standards forward inside house complaints to the Developer. They do follow up and you can follow up as well.

That doesn’t seem to be the case with the grandfather who has a 9-year old living with him. They were frequently in the news and everyone knows about it. Nothing was done.

davem4616 07-02-2020 08:50 PM

the age restriction applies to under 18

this kid's mother should take out a restraining order to keep him away from her

I don't see any role that the developer has to play in any of this

Two Bills 07-03-2020 03:55 AM

I was always under the impression that 19 years of age was the cut off?

George Page 07-03-2020 05:06 AM

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FEAR NOT,
Loser offspring of Villagers are only here for a short time. Soon enough, they check into their permanent accommodations.

NY2TV 07-03-2020 05:28 AM

It's not the under 55 parent that's the problem, it's the under 19 child that's not allowed.

Girlcopper 07-03-2020 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1796530)
I'd feel better that if there was something to be changed with the law that allows him to be out of jail! Perhaps there has been an exception due to some behavior/medical issue.

Its called “posting bond” and you get out of jail until your court date. Nothing new. And I wouldnt go posting backgrounds about people until you can confirm what youre saying and not what you read in the news.

Sabella 07-03-2020 05:45 AM

Why wasn’t Camp Villages canceled? I guess safe health practices go out the window when there’s money to be made.

Judy n Ron 07-03-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796510)
18 years old Kelvin William Moore resides in Fenney with his 54 year old mother whom he criminally battered. He was arrested according to the unmentionable on-line news.

With all the hubbub over a little white cross in one's yard or a great looking $4,000 artificial turf front lawn one would think that whatever authority is responsible should be policing the 19 and over age restriction.

We walked by the house with the turf yesterday. The house and yard were impeccable. There were many homes there some obviously unoccupied that had TREMENDOUS weeks and grass coming out of the planters. The walls to those bungalows are maintained by the villages as is the sign in the front and look like something out of the Munsters! Shame on The Villages for threatening and fining people when their own house is completely out of order. I agree with restrictions, but throwing stones at people who actually care about their property while not maintaining your own is untenable.

Jayhawk 07-03-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 1796747)
Why wasn’t Camp Villages canceled? I guess safe health practices go out the window when there’s money to be made.

Since when was it NOT canceled? They announced the cancellation long ago, despite your contention "there’s money to be made."

Shameful rumors.

:cus:

Two Bills 07-03-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Judy n Ron (Post 1796775)
We walked by the house with the turf yesterday. The house and yard were impeccable. There were many homes there some obviously unoccupied that had TREMENDOUS weeks and grass coming out of the planters. The walls to those bungalows are maintained by the villages as is the sign in the front and look like something out of the Munsters! Shame on The Villages for threatening and fining people when their own house is completely out of order. I agree with restrictions, but throwing stones at people who actually care about their property while not maintaining your own is untenable.

Report them!

MandoMan 07-03-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1796579)
That is my take on it. She knowingly has been breaking the law, deed restriction or covenants, whatever applies.

"While The Villages is a 55+ active adult community we welcome children and grandchildren. In fact we offer (year round) intergenerational activities called “Camp Villages”, allowing grandparents and grandchildren to experience together all the lifestyle The Villages has to offer. There is a 30 consecutive day limit for visitors under the age of 18."

from. FAQ | The Villages

Housing for Older Persons Act - Wikipedia

If children live with their parents or grandparents who own or rent in The Villages, then they aren’t visitors, so the thirty day restriction doesn’t apply. It would apply if, say, people send their kids to The Villages to spend the summer with the grandparents. That’s not allowed beyond thirty days. A huge number of Villagers have grandchildren, and of course they want to be visited. This is why some of the swimming pools here are open to children. What joy to watch kids frolicking in a pool. It brings back old memories. There must be a number of kids who live here all the time, as there are schools here.

I’ve noticed that a large percentage of the crime by people residing in The Villages is done by children of Villagers—but usually grown-up children. Some grown-up children live with a parent to provide care—what a blessing! Some have medical problems that keep them from being able to live alone, such as Down Syndrome. Some move in because they have a hard time holding down a job for various reasons (including drug abuse and drinking problems and a criminal record) and need a place to stay. Sometimes they abuse the parent, and of course plenty of older parents are pretty abusive themselves, at least verbally. I’m sure it must be horrible for owners to have criminal children living with them. They need our support.

vintageogauge 07-03-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1796746)
Its called “posting bond” and you get out of jail until your court date. Nothing new. And I wouldnt go posting backgrounds about people until you can confirm what youre saying and not what you read in the news.

His bond was returned to him and charges dropped. There will be no court date.

thevillages2013 07-03-2020 06:24 AM

Anyone check the tax records to see if she is the actual owner of the home or a tenant?

hardwick2112@yahoo.com 07-03-2020 06:25 AM

Let's face it, The Villages is not what it used to be. Greed and money have taken over the developers mindset.

skip0358 07-03-2020 06:30 AM

Why is it whenever something is wrong it's all about the Family making money. There are rules period. Unfortunately there are NO rules police. You must be the tattletail and turn them in period then it will be investigated. There have been times when emergencies arose and the underage rule was waived. If the child is being abusive or troublesome it's up to the parent to take action period! Put the shoe back on your foot and think what you would do period! Off topic pull out your restrictions we all signed for then look around your yard and your neighborhood there are VERY few homes that don't have violations. So people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Don't pick and choose what your going to complain about. JMO

Jayhawk 07-03-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1796650)
That sounds accurate. That this man is 18 or over. Then he could live here in the Villages without breaking a covenant.

The rule is UNDER 19, not 18 and over.

RonI46 07-03-2020 06:37 AM

Underage allowed if medical condition is the cause for the individual living there.


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