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Lottoguy 08-06-2020 09:16 AM

Hacienda hills is now just rubble - what goes in now?
 
Looks like Hacienda Hills will be totally cleared this week. What do you think will happen to this property?

THE VILLAGES - Nothing But Rubble At Hacienda Hills - YouTube

Marathon Man 08-06-2020 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1813431)
Looks like Hacienda Hills will be totally cleared this week. What do you think will happen to this property?

THE VILLAGES - Nothing But Rubble At Hacienda Hills - YouTube

A lot of dog walking.

Stu from NYC 08-06-2020 01:18 PM

Heard it will be a farm raising kumquats

CanTho 08-06-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1813431)
Looks like Hacienda Hills will be totally cleared this week. What do you think will happen to this property?

THE VILLAGES - Nothing But Rubble At Hacienda Hills - YouTube

Honestly who really cares

npwalters 08-06-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1813631)
Honestly who really cares

Those of us that live in the vicinity

Bogie Shooter 08-06-2020 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1813632)
Those of us that live in the vicinity

We will all know when plans are complete.
Patience Grasshopper.......

kaydee 08-06-2020 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1813631)
Honestly who really cares

Many of us care that’s who!

Neils 08-07-2020 04:47 AM

Costco

Rwirish 08-07-2020 04:57 AM

Heard a hot dog stand will be going in.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-07-2020 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1813634)
We will all know when plans are complete.
Patience Grasshopper.......

You took the thought right out of my mind.

bowlingal 08-07-2020 05:55 AM

If you read the VHA Voice that comes with the daily sun, this topic was mentioned. The developer is not answering the question, nor the question about Katie Belles future. They said they do not know yet

Cbriggi 08-07-2020 05:58 AM

Check today’s newspaper. Crafty developers.

Moderator 08-07-2020 05:59 AM

Read today's Daily Sun...proposal is a mix of 55+ apartments, shared amenities, and restaurant open to the public. Subject to review/approval by Amenity Authority Committee.

michtofla 08-07-2020 06:13 AM

Hacienda Plans
 
I think Edna's on the Green should open a new location there.

Singerlady 08-07-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 1813800)
If you read the VHA Voice that comes with the daily sun, this topic was mentioned. The developer is not answering the question, nor the question about Katie Belles future. They said they do not know yet

THEY know, but won’t tell.

Goldwingnut 08-07-2020 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1813833)
THEY know, but won’t tell.

You right, they know, and they are not saying, why? Because it's none of your business! It is private property and theirs to do with as they wish, and the law allows. They owe us noting on this matter and are not obligated to provide us with any information beyond any legal notices. It wasn't an "amenity", it was a privately owned business that was demolished. Whatever they decide to do with the property will be in thier own best interest, perhaps that interest will be "public relations" or it will be profit or maybe they can do both. Whatever the decision it is theirs and theirs alone to make, after all it is their money at risk, not yours or mine.

RealJudy 08-07-2020 07:22 AM

There is a proposal in today’s newspaper Local section.

champion6 08-07-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 1813802)
Read today's Daily Sun...proposal is a mix of 55+ apartments, shared amenities, and restaurant open to the public. Subject to review/approval by Amenity Authority Committee.

I think this is GREAT NEWS! New plans being discussed here: https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...3/#post1813832

Davelinda91 08-07-2020 07:54 AM

More apartments, read the Daily Sun. More people in less space and more $ per square foot. The Proposal hearing is this Wednesday, if you don’t agree go speak your mind. Changing a county club seating to a apartment view, it’s up to you!

Windguy 08-07-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1813634)
Patience Grasshopper.......

I suspect you aren’t aware of it, but that statement comes across (to me, anyway) as really condescending. It’s like you are saying you are the wise, all-knowing one and the target of your insult is an uneducated fool. I would be really offended if you said that to me. Maybe others think I’m overreacting. I’m curious to know if I am the only one who feels this way.

And, yes, I know where that line came from.

I’m sorry for hijacking this thread.

Jazzman 08-07-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 1813800)
If you read the VHA Voice that comes with the daily sun, this topic was mentioned. The developer is not answering the question, nor the question about Katie Belles future. They said they do not know yet

I’m sure you don’t believe that statement from the developer. Guess they didn’t know they were going to demolish almost the entire property until they woke up one day and made that decision and never even bothered to tell anyone who for example used the pool on a very frequent basis.

Greg L 08-07-2020 08:14 AM

My guess would be independent living apartments

Stu from NYC 08-07-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1813902)
I suspect you aren’t aware of it, but that statement comes across (to me, anyway) as really condescending. It’s like you are saying you are the wise, all-knowing one and the target of your insult is an uneducated fool. I would be really offended if you said that to me. Maybe others think I’m overreacting. I’m curious to know if I am the only one who feels this way.

And, yes, I know where that line came from.

I’m sorry for hijacking this thread.

I do not believe he meant it that way. More along the lines that they would announce their plans when they are ready to announce their plans. It is their property and their money after all.

KRM0614 08-07-2020 08:24 AM

Build more houses clear the area and charge the residents for everything

odyboys7 08-07-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 1813802)
Read today's Daily Sun...proposal is a mix of 55+ apartments, shared amenities, and restaurant open to the public. Subject to review/approval by Amenity Authority Committee.

Yep. What ever makes more money for the family (you know who) and less of what we might like. More floors more apartments more money.

Villages Kahuna 08-07-2020 08:33 AM

If the Developer does their typically great job of building their proposal for a new resort-style pool, walking paths and other unidentified amenities nearby the Hacienda Hills site, I’d be agreeable to their proposal with the following conditions:

1. The proposed “age restricted” multi-family units on the former country club site be height-restricted to three stories and density-restricted to minimize the impact on traffic on Morse Blvd. and the nearby gate and traffic circle accessing both El Camino Real/Paige Place and US 441.

2. That the multi-family units be condos for sale, not rental units similar to those built in Brownwood.

3. That the proposed resort pool and other amenities be deeded over to the Amenity Authority with the appropriate Developer-provided funding for future necessary maintenance.

mulligan 08-07-2020 08:48 AM

I would bet the farm that you will not see any condos.

sswitenki 08-07-2020 08:55 AM

Daily Sun article today in local news section headline saysRestaurant Amenities planned at Hacienda site. Part of plan being presented to AAC Wednesday. If the Villages proceed with new age restricted residential units at Hacienda Hills site it would feature a restaurant open to the public- quote from paper

DeanFL 08-07-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1813902)
I suspect you aren’t aware of it, but that statement comes across (to me, anyway) as really condescending. It’s like you are saying you are the wise, all-knowing one and the target of your insult is an uneducated fool. I would be really offended if you said that to me. Maybe others think I’m overreacting. I’m curious to know if I am the only one who feels this way.

And, yes, I know where that line came from.

I’m sorry for hijacking this thread.


Nope - I agree with you, and have seen this "response" from this poster before. In my view, it's like patting a little kid on the head and say "now now..".
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pauld315 08-07-2020 09:10 AM

What is written in the paper today is very unclear. Most likely on purpose. I don't think you will really know what is planned for that area, who owns what etc until they reveal the proposal to the AAC.

For example, if the developer will own the property and maintain the property as reported who will then be allowed to use the amenities ? Previously, the amenities there were owned and maintained by the developer were only available to priority members.

Also, what does this mean ""in exchange for permitting the developer to use age restricted residential units currently reserved only for independent or assisted living use" I am assuming they have some kind of agreement in place with the county or another entity on how many residential units they can build in that area and now they want to do away with the units reserved for assisted living units and build residential instead.

Lastly, the article says "ideally we would like to see age restricted residential units in that area to help support a restaurant" Does that mean apartments, single family homes or a combination of both ?

When you look at the land available there, they don't have room to build much of anything unless they also take some or all of the golf courses there.

I will wait until they present the proposal to the AAC to see what is really being planned there.

Indydealmaker 08-07-2020 09:45 AM

Rumor has it that this site will be home to an upscale gentleman's club.

bumpygreens 08-07-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 1814006)
Rumor has it that this site will be home to an upscale gentleman's club.

"The Villages Pole Dancers"??? Thanks a lot, fella. That image is going to be in my head all day!:1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 08-07-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bumpygreens (Post 1814010)
"The Villages Pole Dancers"??? Thanks a lot, fella. That image is going to be in my head all day!:1rotfl:

There are quite a few attractive well preserved ladies here.

Villages Kahuna 08-07-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 1813978)
When you look at the land available there, they don't have room to build much of anything unless they also take some or all of the golf courses there.

I thought the same thing. They could take one of the three nine-hole courses and lay it out with quite a number of multi-family buildings, putting the new restaurant on the same site as the old one. In fact, the new “resort style pool” could go on that site as well.

If they did that I can’t imagine that the required traffic impact study would show anything but way too much traffic going through the gate on Morse and up and down Morse. I’d hate to think of the accidents at that traffic circle and traffic jams at the stoplight at Morse and Rio Grande. And if people think there’s too much traffic on Rio Grande near Chula Vista Golf course now, with that plan...wow! How about using the “circle” for golf carts to cross Morse, El Camino Real or Paige Place? Accidents waiting to happen (multiple).

Nah, if they took one of the golf courses they’d have to redesign the access-egress from the new apartments to have more than just the driveway onto Morse.

Barb.callow 08-07-2020 10:48 AM

If you live down the street from it, you care! Furthermore, we should all be concerned with Intended construction throughout TV. Today’s paper says the developers want to build some residential units in addition to pool, restaurant, activity courts, walking paths and open spaces.

Barb.callow 08-07-2020 10:56 AM

HH = apartments?
 
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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1813631)
Honestly who really cares

If you live down the street from it, you care! Furthermore, we should all be concerned with Intended construction throughout TV. Today’s paper says the developers want to build some residential units in addition to pool, restaurant, activity courts, walking paths and open spaces.

Singerlady 08-07-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb.callow (Post 1814043)
If you live down the street from it, you care! Furthermore, we should all be concerned with Intended construction throughout TV. Today’s paper says the developers want to build some residential units in addition to pool, restaurant, activity courts, walking paths and open spaces.

See the Local News section of paper today - 8/7, page 1. Told ya so.....THEY knew what they were going to do and NOW they’ve told us their proposal. Nix it, I say! Doesn’t help us. Helps the Developer only. Hmmm....

Joe C. 08-07-2020 11:13 AM

Living in TV is like being a coal miner.
The "company store"......

graciegirl 08-07-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb.callow (Post 1814037)
If you live down the street from it, you care! Furthermore, we should all be concerned with Intended construction throughout TV. Today’s paper says the developers want to build some residential units in addition to pool, restaurant, activity courts, walking paths and open spaces.

They are very good builders and very fast builders. They have the materials, the skilled experts and they have it planned carefully. I am not concerned about any "intended construction throughout The Villages".

The only thing is of course is that MLS realtors can't sell it because it is NEW.

Hmmmm.

toeser 08-07-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1813631)
Honestly who really cares

I suspect people living nearby care.


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