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Kenklaw13 08-28-2020 10:39 AM

Small white Crosses
 
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-28-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

1. Pick your battles wisely.
2. Your religion doesn't require you to advertise on your front lawn, with a white cross. So your battle cry is unfounded and without merit.
3. As long as you don't mind people putting up Wiccan pentacles, symbols of the Satanic Church, Jewish stars, the Anarchy symbol, Muslim symbols, on THEIR front lawns, it's all good right?
4. Pick your battles wisely.

Your white cross is offensive to me, but live with it because to me, it's just not worth "doing" anything about it.

dewilson58 08-28-2020 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.




Great first post..................Not.
I'm a Christian who signed and understood the restrictions when I moved in.
I don't need a white cross in my front yard.
Christ does not care if you have a cross in your front yard or not.

renrod 08-28-2020 11:18 AM

White crosses
 
I've notice that there are very FEW white crosses in the historic section of The Villages. Always wondered why, then it dawned on me, BECAUSE NOBODY TOLD THEM THEY CAN'T HAVE THEM.

dewilson58 08-28-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by renrod (Post 1824269)
I've notice that there are very FEW white crosses in the historic section of The Villages. Always wondered why, then it dawned on me, BECAUSE NOBODY TOLD THEM THEY CAN'T HAVE THEM.


I'm on the other end.......South of 466a.

Very few around here.

Why??.....because I call them all in. :1rotfl:

Dana1963 08-28-2020 12:01 PM

Weren’t they to keep vampires away?

Stu from NYC 08-28-2020 12:06 PM

Lots around here. Does not bother me at all.

Now if it was larger and say lit up all night that would be another story.

Ben Franklin 08-28-2020 12:10 PM

When we first moved here, we thought those little white crosses were where people buried their pets, that had passed on.

Velvet 08-28-2020 12:31 PM

My background is Christian, studied to be a missionary. But I associate the little white crosses with death as they are used along highways to indicate someone has died in that place. I get creeped out every time I see them on front lawns. I understand that some people may get comfort from them. I don’t.

coffeebean 08-28-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824251)
1. Pick your battles wisely.
2. Your religion doesn't require you to advertise on your front lawn, with a white cross. So your battle cry is unfounded and without merit.
3. As long as you don't mind people putting up Wiccan pentacles, symbols of the Satanic Church, Jewish stars, the Anarchy symbol, Muslim symbols, on THEIR front lawns, it's all good right?
4. Pick your battles wisely.

Your white cross is offensive to me, but live with it because to me, it's just not worth "doing" anything about it.

Agree. Those white crosses are offensive to me also. I do not like seeing the white crosses but I live with them and have never made a formal complaint about them. I must admit though, the amount of white crosses in people's yards has dropped drastically. Maybe others have been complaining about them.

justjim 08-28-2020 12:51 PM

Battles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824251)
1. Pick your battles wisely.
2. Your religion doesn't require you to advertise on your front lawn, with a white cross. So your battle cry is unfounded and without merit.
3. As long as you don't mind people putting up Wiccan pentacles, symbols of the Satanic Church, Jewish stars, the Anarchy symbol, Muslim symbols, on THEIR front lawns, it's all good right?
4. Pick your battles wisely.

Your white cross is offensive to me, but live with it because to me, it's just not worth "doing" anything about it.

We visited the Illinois Capitol building this past Holiday season. Under the big dome we immediately noticed all the various religion symbols and displays you mention. It was a scene to behold - not. Yep, careful the battles you pick and what you wish for. Deed restrictions are a good thing in my opinion.

Red White & Blue 08-28-2020 12:56 PM

Those white crosses is a way for the church to make money, then the buyer slaps it into the ground and aims it at your face all year long.

Topspinmo 08-28-2020 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1824251)
1. Pick your battles wisely.
2. Your religion doesn't require you to advertise on your front lawn, with a white cross. So your battle cry is unfounded and without merit.
3. As long as you don't mind people putting up Wiccan pentacles, symbols of the Satanic Church, Jewish stars, the Anarchy symbol, Muslim symbols, on THEIR front lawns, it's all good right?
4. Pick your battles wisely.

Your white cross is offensive to me, but live with it because to me, it's just not worth "doing" anything about it.

Then, look the other way, lots of things are offensive to me but I can deal with it and just ignore it. Not that hard.

dewilson58 08-28-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1824335)
So you’re the troll with chipboard :popcorn:


Clipboard = Old School


Modern Day = Phone w/ camera.


:MOJE_whot:

charmed59 08-28-2020 01:54 PM

What is the meaning of the white crosses? Does it signify a Christian lives there, and true to their faith is offering help to those in need, just knock on the door and ask?

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-28-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1824370)
What is the meaning of the white crosses? Does it signify a Christian lives there, and true to their faith is offering help to those in need, just knock on the door and ask?

I don't know what they intend by it - there are different meanings, different connotations, different things people intend by it. Ranging from a white supremacist dogwhistle to say "KKK welcome here"..to someone who buried a pet in that spot.

As someone who drives past homes that have them I just assume they aren't comfortable enough in their own faith to NOT have to advertise it to everyone else. Like - that's the only way anyone will believe them when they say they're a christian.

Pro-tip: if you have to advertise, you're doin' it wrong.

perrjojo 08-28-2020 02:29 PM

I’m with those who thought is was a marker for a deceased pet. In fact I told my neighbor that I was sorry her pet had passed. If you must tell the world you are Christian well...I’m not impressed. Whatever your religion, live it for the good. As someone else said, yes, we have freedom of religion, not just one religion so be prepared for other symbols as well.

VApeople 08-28-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by charmed59 (Post 1824370)
Does it signify a Christian lives there, and true to their faith is offering help to those in need, just knock on the door and ask?

Yeah, I assume that is what it means.

I am not a Christian, but the Christians we know are the kind to help anyone in need.

Bambi 08-28-2020 02:45 PM

My neighbor has two crosses. Maybe she needs a zoning change to cemetery😁

dewilson58 08-28-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1824385)
I’m with those who thought is was a marker for a deceased pet.

I did too at first.

charmed59 08-28-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1824387)
Yeah, I assume that is what it means.

I am not a Christian, but the Christians we know are the kind to help anyone in need.

If that is the true meaning, that they signal this house will offer shelter and comfort to all, that they should be allowed.

mamamia54 08-28-2020 06:43 PM

I’m pretty sure the Church doesn’t sell them. Google the meaning of the little white cross and you will be able to read the story of how they started. I don’t know how to put the link up.

chrisinva 08-28-2020 06:48 PM

me too! How nice, I thought , to remember your pet that way.

glad I was not the only one!

Red White & Blue 08-28-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisinva (Post 1824449)
me too! How nice, I thought , to remember your pet that way.

glad I was not the only one!

You guys thought the Villages was is a farm where you can bury pets! :1rotfl:

Topspinmo 08-28-2020 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mamamia54 (Post 1824447)
I’m pretty sure the Church doesn’t sell them. Google the meaning of the little white cross and you will be able to read the story of how they started. I don’t know how to put the link up.

Who would buy two sticks put together? :)

DeanFL 08-28-2020 09:08 PM

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hmmm, was thinkin' about this one. I believe most of us in TV have the postlight out front of our homes. You know the thick vertical tube with the horizontal little pipe across, and just under the light. Many people have their name/number signs on it.

OK, that all said. What if - IF. A homeowner mounts a white cross on the INSIDE portion of this post so the vertical aligns right with the post and the horiz aligns with the cross pipe. Really not seen from the street. But the homewner can see it from their house, and any visitors leaving. hmmm - would that be a violation???

Or, better yet - what if the lamp posts are brown, and the homeowner paints, in white, the portion of the posts and crossmember to depict a cross? The paint is approved color - the homeowner just did not finish the job. A white cross is there.

just sayin'....
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Astron 08-29-2020 04:51 AM

Matthew 6:5-6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.” (Matthew 6:5-6)

Miguel 1952 08-29-2020 04:52 AM

Living in Paradise - most retired, some money and worrying about a little white cross. Incredible!

Nannyof3 08-29-2020 04:57 AM

Why was it a scene to behold - NOT?

Cheapbas 08-29-2020 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1824258)
Great first post..................Not.
I'm a Christian who signed and understood the restrictions when I moved in.
I don't need a white cross in my front yard.
Christ does not care if you have a cross in your front yard or not.

So what do you do about people who wear crosses around their neck? Isn’t the symbolism the same?

These are “small” white crosses, not obnoxious religious displays.

I keep my religion very private, I don’t like having others shove their ideas in my face. But I am cool with the crosses, it’s a polite display That to me says protect this household.

As long as this is kept low key, let them be.

Skunky1 08-29-2020 05:08 AM

Some religions would like to display their swastika is that OK with you?

coffeebean 08-29-2020 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapbas (Post 1824505)
So what do you do about people who wear crosses around their neck? Isn’t the symbolism the same?

These are “small” white crosses, not obnoxious religious displays.

I keep my religion very private, I don’t like having others shove their ideas in my face. But I am cool with the crosses, it’s a polite display That to me says protect this household.

As long as this is kept low key, let them be.

"Low key", to me, means not visible from the street. When I can see those little white crosses, that, to me, is not "low key". I have no problem with placing those little white crosses BEHIND a shrub so the cross is not visible to anyone. If the homeowner wants the cross in their yard for "whatever reason", it will serve that purpose even if it is placed BEHIND a shrub.

swooner 08-29-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenklaw13 (Post 1824247)
I understand there is a lawsuit pending against a village household for displaying a small white cross in their yard. The last time I looked at the constitution,we were still guaranteed freedom"of" religion and not freedom "from" religion.
Time for Christians to stand up and be counted. Would be interesting to see hundreds if not thousands of "little white crosses"
pop-up all over the villages.

God is great; Beer is good; People are crazy!
KenK.

All for religious freedom and all kinds of freedom of choice, including political preferences. Believe symbols of all those things should remain in the house and not be on display in front yards.

John corallo 08-29-2020 05:35 AM

There is nothing wrong with a white cross. Or any religious crosses it’s a free world. I noticed i the villages people have nothing to do but to go around and look for trouble. It’s like being in high school again

drgoofy 08-29-2020 05:42 AM

Why the need to advertise?
 
Are the crosses there as a warning to keep all other religions away? If they're such great Christians, why would they need to advertise? Wouldn't we all know by their Jesus-esque actions???

bonrich 08-29-2020 05:45 AM

I thought the white cross was placed in remembrance of a relative or close friend that had passed.

Windguy 08-29-2020 05:46 AM

They are essentially gang signs to show the world what gang you belong to. It’s like tagging is in urban areas.

BryanTheGolfPro 08-29-2020 05:47 AM

How many golf carts advertise the owners' favorite college/pro team, etc.? Are you offended? The nameplate on our driveway lamp post is the colors of and contains the logo of our Alma Mater--along with our names. Are you offended? On the other hand, Jews, Muslims, Atheists--and especially Christians--agreed to conform to the covenants when we bought our homes. (Read Romans 13.) However, no covenants prevent me from putting a large Star of David, Crescent Moon--and especially a Cross on the INSIDE of a street-facing window. This demonstrates my beliefs; I've conformed to the covenants; and everybody lives. Though silly, here's food for thought: Is the Atheist violating the covenants by NOT putting a symbol of his (non) beliefs in HIS yard. Does his "symbol" offend?

Bellavita 08-29-2020 06:00 AM

What if I worshiped Hitler could I put a small tasteful swastika in my yard? Protected by my freedom of religion?

mamamia54 08-29-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1824462)
Who would buy two sticks put together? :)

I once heard (you know how hearing things goes) that a man in Spanish Springs makes them and puts them out for free for anyone who wants one.


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