Sept 22, 200,000 Dead from Covid 19 in the US
 

How can the US have 5% of the world population but 20% of the deaths related to Covid? We have failed to protect our population from the pandemic. How did our country become so anti-science during this world wide health crisis?

Plain IGNORANCE, anti science, anti mask this is going to get political.

"Get p....." is exactly why we lead the entire world in disappointment and shock in this ongoing pandemic.

I am more dissapointed that it appears many citizens of our country don't care.

Harsh judgement, I know, but quotes and actions is all that I, and the world can see or hear.

Fewer people to play?

But, it is shocking, especially to the families and friends of those who passed away. We are no longer innocent, with respect to this new virus.

It has affected old, young, rich, poor, all races, all heritages, virtually everybody in some way.

And frankly, I think it is far from over

Knocking on wood, but I do not know personally any one who has died from COVID or for that matter anyone who has even had Covid.

Well, I’m doing my part. So what was we not doing?

Please follow the science. Covid deaths prove it is not a hoax!

It is about honest reporting of the numbers. The United States and Euro Nations Have honestly reported numbers. It ends there. China in some honest outside estimates may have lost millions to this terrible crisis. Most third world countries have no statistical tracking at all and Russia will never tell the truth if it makes them look bad. Therefore these figures are at best totally bogus. We won’t know the true figures for years and with the corruption of our news media, even then the “truth” will be suspect.

Through ignorance , arrogance and hubris.

We, the 5%ers, also create 27% of worlds greenhouses gasses. Not a good world citizen. Connection?

So many of the people with co-morbidities could have lived for years if they hadn’t contracted COVID. Yes, they were sick, but they died of COVID, and rightfully should have been classified as a COVID death.

Are all countries using the same criteria? We need an apples to apples comparison.

Did they die FROM the virus or WITH the virus? Big difference!

You forget China and India...

I do...but is it necessary for someone to know somebody personally to take this pandemic seriously? Surely not.

You are off by about a factor of 2. China is number 1 at 27% and the US is number 2 at 15%.

The pre-Covid death rate was pretty constant. If you really want to know how many people have died from COVID, either directly or indirectly, look at the difference in the number of deaths on a month-by-month basis between 2019 and 2020. You need to dig a little bit but the data is out there.

Always follow the Money. 👍

There is no way that third world countries are accurately and honestly counting Covid 19 deaths. Then you have India and China with No value what so ever for the lower class in there populations, they don’t even treat them let alone count the dead from covin.

I’ve heard the same testing story from Ri, Mass and Michigan it’s BS to create distrust in the system.

Another Thought
 

and China has 3 times the population and is a net manufacturing exporter. China is 2000 kg of oil eq vs 7000 kg of oil eq per capita.

Big pharma and biotech needed a boost....so many drugs for itching, scratching and cholesterol going off patent.....so, lets look at what companies are benefitting from the situation...I can see Merlin in Medieval England cooking up a cure for bubonic plague in his lab...."sire, ye shall have an elixer by Christmas"

Beautifully said thank you

Good Article
 

Well thought out article on Covid in today's paper that I hope some don't think it is fake news.

Deaths are recorded “Covid Related” because hospitals are getting supplements for this. Last week 9 deaths reported in this area, 6 were over 80, 2 over 70, 1 in 50’s!

We are higher than China on a per capita basis because we are more industrialized. China is still a third world country. However, I was responding to the incorrect information in the post.

Problems in reporting
 

Why, because the US put a bounty on Covid deaths which inlates the "deaths related to Covid", and the rest of the world historically under reports actual data either because of policy or technology shortages.

sounds like folks are gaming the system

and who can trust that all countries are counting the exact same way...and even counting accurately

only number that is important to me is my wife's and my own....and we're playing it safe

Plus the lack of making certain precautions mandatory and not enforcing the recommendations.

Bounty for deaths plus lack of strict basic precautions.

USA covid-19 numbers demonstrate the "let's not upset anybody" mode of management does not work.

No mystery to end results.

Same here.

Totally agree, I know of more than one instance of following the $$$

Answers to several points mentioned. Not "anti-science" just anti-mass hysteria.
I agree with the statement that too many of the deaths were attributed to the virus. A relative in the hospital for heart surgery (one of many) died on the table and deemed virus was the cause. BS!
I would like to see the numbers of yearly average deaths in the U.S. and compare them to this years. Just my opinion but I bet they wouldn't be too far off from the norm.
Time to get off the political blame and just accept that we have a illness pandemic in this country that came from China, whether weaponized or not that has caused a lot of damage and panic. Isn't the first time and wont' be the last.
No one is suggesting that the virus is a hoax. That is just political pundit language used to shore up a weak election year rhetoric.

You are very lucky.

Having lived in and visited Asia I wonder why their air quality to so much worse than ours.

Agreed

I highly doubt any numbers from other countries who probably suppress the real numbers out of economic impact fears. Our numbers have been proven to be highly suspect as to actual cause of death and probably overstated. I'm not saying we should let our guard down but I don't think we haven't been doing anything less than any other country to fight or control the virus. Different areas of the country, especially more non urban areas have much less infections while urban areas have a much greater rate and require greater attention to virus protection measures.

We can Compare our number of Covid deaths, it’s called per capita.

Thinking the death WAS Covid with complicating factors (diabetes, heart issues, etc. ). Wondering if the death certificates make note of that. Also wonder if doctors have to make a decision that the complicating factor wasn’t bad enough BEFORE Covid to have died that prematurely. Maybe a little subjective?

200,000 deaths out of 326 million people is not catastrophic. There were 200,000 deaths, but I honestly believe that they all weren't from the pandemic. I don't believe in CDC figures, as IMHO, they "pad" them in order to command a bigger budget for their operation. Besides, most of them were caused by underlying medical conditions. How many people in the U.S. die from all causes in the course of a year?

Some countries reported lower deaths, but then again, they put lockdown restrictions on their population. We live in the
U.S.A. ...a "free" country. Our freedoms are what makes us unique and a leader in this world. We won't be held in shackles and give in like people in China and other countries do. So even if we have higher numbers, it's the price of liberty.