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MDLNB 11-10-2020 08:11 AM

Vaccine and masks?
 
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

Bogie Shooter 11-10-2020 08:26 AM

Only so many ways to say yes or no. And all have been said on here 100 times,,,,
:popcorn::popcorn:

MDLNB 11-10-2020 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1858819)
Only so many ways to say yes or no. And all have been said on here 100 times,,,,
:popcorn::popcorn:


I don't recall any discussions about wearing a mask AFTER the vaccine is available. Just curious as to whether or not folks will still believe that a mask mandate should be enforced. Not to get into a political discussion, the new reign seems to believe in a mask mandate and I was wondering if anyone thinks it is necessary if a vaccine is available.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-10-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858831)
I don't recall any discussions about wearing a mask AFTER the vaccine is available. Just curious as to whether or not folks will still believe that a mask mandate should be enforced. Not to get into a political discussion, the new reign seems to believe in a mask mandate and I was wondering if anyone thinks it is necessary if a vaccine is available.

I seriously doubt that there will be any kind of national mask mandate. First it probably violates states rights. Secondly, who and how would it be enforced? Would the police arrest people who are walking down the street without a mask? I don't know that anyone would want to get involved with that.

I will be happy to get rid on my mask once I get the vaccine. The chances of my getting would be 10% or less and the chances of my giving it to someone else would be even less than that.

The idea of a vaccine is to get us back to normal.

Dana1963 11-10-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

Considering it will take 2 doses of the current Pfizer Vaccine. Distribution may be an issue initially, must be shipped and stored in containers at -100 degrees. A sufficient supply may not be available till mid-2021. We will continue to mask and socially distance. Our current circle of friends both in The Villages and Northest have been virus free by following these protocols. Yes we do go out dining.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-10-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1858842)
Considering it will take 2 doses of the current Pfizer Vaccine. Distribution may be an issue initially, must be shipped and stored in containers at -100 degrees. A sufficient supply may not be available till mid-2021. We will continue to mask and socially distance. Our current circle of friends both in The Villages and Northest have been virus free by following these protocols. Yes we do go out dining.

The question is would you wear your mask AFTER receiving the vaccine? The time that it will take to be distributed is irrelevant. How it is shipped and stored is irrelevant. if it takes two doses you have received the vaccine after you have received your two doses.

So once the vaccine is shipped here and stored at -100 degrees and you have your two doses, whether that is next week, next month or November of 2021, would you continue to wear your mask?

Pettys1 11-10-2020 09:13 AM

No vaccines an still no mask. Can't get rid of something if your not exposed to it to buildup antibodies

Bill14564 11-10-2020 09:16 AM

The announcement of a vaccine does not stop the virus. The virus will also not be stopped the day the first vaccinations are given. The virus will only be stopped once a sufficient number of people have developed immunity either through exposure or vaccination.

Given that, I would choose to wear a mask for several months while vaccinations take place. Once several (three, six, nine?) months have passed and the US has had time to develop immunity I will begin to avoid businesses who continue to mandate masks.

Personally, I will never accept wearing masks as a new normal. Masks are only a temporary measure to get us to a vaccine.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 11-10-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 1858864)
No vaccines an still no mask. Can't get rid of something if your not exposed to it to buildup antibodies

Good luck with that. Why don't you just try to get into a hospital that has some Covid patients, or find someone that is infected and see if you can catch it.

Pairadocs 11-10-2020 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

I was surprised at the number of states that have mandatory mask laws, didn't realize we here in Florida are one of the few that do not (along with Missouri and a few of the western states), so I actually expect stricter laws here as the "media" on all channels has been reporting that the new administration will crack down on mask "laws" and such, so my guess would be stronger mask laws everywhere and possibly a nation wide mask law instead of state by state ? I do think it will be a very LONG time until vaccine is widely available, just filling the needs of all the health care field workers will be one challenging job when you think of ALL the people who work in ALL hospitals and clinics, ALL dentist offices, ALL EMT's. police, fire, etc. etc. They will have to be first of course; I think it will be a long time, want groceries ? MASK ON I am thinking... many more months ! Just my thoughts.:pray:

davem4616 11-10-2020 09:28 AM

It'll be difficult to determine who has had the vaccine and sees no need to continue wearing a mask from those that merely choose to not wear masks

currently people that don't wear masks are shunned by those that believe masks should be worn by all

I hope to live my life 'mask free' once I have had the vaccine

That said, to avoid those ugly disapproving looks, I'm thinking of having a large capital letter V imprinted in green ink on a few tee shirts so folks will know why I'm no longer wearing a mask

(PM to Mrs. Rhodes), see, I actually did pay attention in class and learned something when we discussed Hawthorn's works :)

Pairadocs 11-10-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1858836)
I seriously doubt that there will be any kind of national mask mandate. First it probably violates states rights. Secondly, who and how would it be enforced? Would the police arrest people who are walking down the street without a mask? I don't know that anyone would want to get involved with that.

I will be happy to get rid on my mask once I get the vaccine. The chances of my getting would be 10% or less and the chances of my giving it to someone else would be even less than that.

The idea of a vaccine is to get us back to normal.

I'm sure national mask law would be a legal debacle that would go to Supreme court; but not well informed on the nuances of the law concerning national emergencies and the power of the president in those circumstances (possible an executive order WITH a well defined time frame ?). HOW that would be enforced is a challenging question, but we all saw (over and over) a woman with no mask and and sitting completely alone, being dragged by two policemen from high school bleachers where she had been watching her son play ball, so who knows ? Can't imagine doing that all over. Perhaps police would just hand out tickets in the same manner they put tickets on auto windows for expired meters ? A minor violating at most ?

billethkid 11-10-2020 10:09 AM

When reading some posts it seems like some believe the mask prevents one from being infected.

We all know the purpose of the mask is to stop the wearer from spreading the virus......right?

There is no doubt there will be a "recommendation" coming about when it would be safe to discontinue wearing masks....after the vaccinations begin in significance.

macawlaw 11-10-2020 10:12 AM

I think that it will be a process, starting small and enlarging the circle. For example, once we are vaccinated we would probably be comfortable being in a small gathering of vaccinated friends without masks. Larger groups I could trust would come next, such as church. However, I will not feel safe in shopping establishments without a mask until the science community indicates that it is safe. I am most anxious for it to be safe to sing with others again! I don't know when I will fell safe doing that.

New Englander 11-10-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

After I get the second dose of the vaccine I will still wear a mask for about two weeks and they not wear a mask unless it is mandatory.

New Englander 11-10-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1858819)
Only so many ways to say yes or no. And all have been said on here 100 times,,,,
:popcorn::popcorn:

The poster was asking will you wear a mask after receiving the vaccine. This was talked about 100 times?

Byte1 11-10-2020 11:59 AM

Once vaccinated, I will NOT wear a mask again. After all, according to the mask moderators on here, the mask is only to protect them. Since I will not be threatening anymore, they will have no reason to demand that I wear a mask. As a matter of fact, I forgot to put my mask back on when I entered Publix a while back and no one even mentioned it to me. I suddenly realized that I did not have it on and reached into my pocket and put it on. I mentioned it to one employee that was watching me, and asked why they did not say anything to me. The employee said that they were instructed NOT to mention it and that they could not enforce mask wearing. After reading a lot of these forum threads on masks and the virus, I am no longer wearing my mask as much. As a matter of fact, I do not wear a mask in any restaurant and will not wear a mask unless the business I wish to enter posts a sign.
Don't get me wrong, I do not disparage anyone that wishes to protect themselves (or others) and wishes to wear a mask. And I do make it a habit to distance myself from others, wearing or not wearing a mask. I am just not going to allow hysteria and paralyzing fear to ruin my lifestyle.
I understand that there is a better than 90% success rate for the vaccine. Kudos for this administration and their fast pacing the vaccine creation. I am amazed at the fast response I have observed from our leaders in their effort to restore a depleted PPE stockpile and the corporations that were recruited to mass produce all these protective items that have been needed to combat the pandemic.
SO, the answer to the question is: Once the vaccine is available, I will NOT wear a mask. And I won't be wearing one during flu season either. Just the same, stay your distance from me.

tvbound 11-10-2020 12:13 PM

Bloomberg


"The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government."

Byte1 11-10-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1858990)
Bloomberg


"The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government."

And you do not believe that Pfizer was motivated by the competition created by Op Warp Spd?

asianthree 11-10-2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1858868)
Good luck with that. Why don't you just try to get into a hospital that has some Covid patients, or find someone that is infected and see if you can catch it.

Interesting unkind post, to someone who may or may not have your views, to expose themselves.

So I was exposed for 5 months 50 plus hours a week. Don’t know if I ever contracted Covid, because unless you had symptoms, you were not tested.

So I took your possible deadly challenge for some, months ago, no idea if I did or didn’t become infected. So your theory doesn’t hold much promise.

coffeebean 11-10-2020 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858831)
I don't recall any discussions about wearing a mask AFTER the vaccine is available. Just curious as to whether or not folks will still believe that a mask mandate should be enforced. Not to get into a political discussion, the new reign seems to believe in a mask mandate and I was wondering if anyone thinks it is necessary if a vaccine is available.

A mask mandate will be necessary until it has been determined that enough people have been vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. Until then, anyone who has not been vaccinated should wear a mask. I wonder if we will have to carry a card verifying the vaccination so it can be produced when ever necessary. I surely hope my mask wearing days will be over once I'm vaccinated.

Going My Way 11-10-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1859037)
Until then, anyone who has not been vaccinated should wear a mask. I wonder if we will have to carry a card verifying the vaccination so it can be produced when ever necessary.

. . . . . . We are almost getting there....

stanley 11-10-2020 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Going My Way (Post 1859050)
. . . . . . We are almost getting there....

I would like this but can't because it's seems that's the way we are headed

rustyp 11-10-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1859008)
And you do not believe that Pfizer was motivated by the competition created by Op Warp Spd?

I do not believe Pfizer was motivated by Op Warp Spd. They were motivated to be first to market solving a problem which will make them boat loads of money without someone telling them how, when, how much they have to do with their own product. Why not participate in Op Warp Spd you ask. The short answer - So they can hold sole proprietary rights to a new product like they did for years with Lipitor.

As for will I wear a mask after the vaccine - I will do what Fauci recommends.

coffeebean 11-10-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1858959)
The poster was asking will you wear a mask after receiving the vaccine. This was talked about 100 times?

Very true. We really have not had much discussion at all about who will or who will not take the vaccine. Can't wait for those discussions!

coffeebean 11-10-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1858867)
The announcement of a vaccine does not stop the virus. The virus will also not be stopped the day the first vaccinations are given. The virus will only be stopped once a sufficient number of people have developed immunity either through exposure or vaccination.

Given that, I would choose to wear a mask for several months while vaccinations take place. Once several (three, six, nine?) months have passed and the US has had time to develop immunity I will begin to avoid businesses who continue to mandate masks.

Personally, I will never accept wearing masks as a new normal. Masks are only a temporary measure to get us to a vaccine.

I'm a huge proponent of wearing masks PROPERLY indoors but I certainly do agree with you. I do not want masks to be a new normal for Americans going forward.

Stu from NYC 11-10-2020 04:22 PM

How long after you get the second dose does the vaccine take full effect?

On that date we burn our masks.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-10-2020 05:05 PM

I will probably continue wearing a mask in stores where social distancing is mostly impractical, if not impossible. I'll also carry a mask with me, in case I'm in a "close quarters" situation outside (such as an outdoor concert). But I'll be grateful to not wear, or feel any need to wear, a mask in some fairly open situation indoors (like the AT&T store - not likely to see a crowd of people there).

I'll definitely continue wearing a mask into any establishment that posts mask-wearing as a requirement. I will offer that amount of respect to the proprietor and its employees, if I have need to visit the establishment. Your place, your rules.

I'll probably continue this for 6 months to a year after I receive my second vaccine, or until Dr. Fauci and his entire crew agree that the virus is finally under control and it's safe for masks to become totally optional - instead of heavily encouraged.

I will NOT visit any establishment that -forbids- the use of masks, however.

billethkid 11-10-2020 06:02 PM

Remember the main objective of wearing the mask is to protect other people from you.

I would think when the vaccine becomes available there will be new "recommendations" regarding when to mask/unmask.

Altavia 11-10-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1859087)
Remember the main objective of wearing the mask is to protect other people from you.

I would think when the vaccine becomes available there will be new "recommendations" regarding when to mask/unmask.

Latest data shows wearing a mask provides some risk reduction for the wearer. CDC is now recommending for personal protection.

Scientific Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Vaccines will not be 100% effective so probably good to continue wearing until infection rates are low.

Pfizer vaccine is no silver bullet - Axios

Happinow 11-10-2020 09:48 PM

Had enough
 
I will not get the vaccine and will not wear a mask. I did when the virus first started...for months. Upon hearing the wishy washy mask on mask off from the “experts”, I came to my own conclusion that they are useless. I don’t wear one now. I social distance and wash my hands. Given that Bill Gates is involved with the vaccine and he wants to decrease the population, I’m gonna pass on that vaccine. No more vaccines for me. I trust no one nowadays when it comes to telling me what’s best for me. I can make my own decisions and don’t need the government telling me what to do.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-10-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1859143)
I will not get the vaccine and will not wear a mask. I did when the virus first started...for months. Upon hearing the wishy washy mask on mask off from the “experts”, I came to my own conclusion that they are useless. I don’t wear one now. I social distance and wash my hands. Given that Bill Gates is involved with the vaccine and he wants to decrease the population, I’m gonna pass on that vaccine. No more vaccines for me. I trust no one nowadays when it comes to telling me what’s best for me. I can make my own decisions and don’t need the government telling me what to do.

You should go live in a country that doesn't have a government, if you don't like one where you have to abide by its laws (which is how government tells you what to do).

Good luck, and bon voyage.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-10-2020 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1859139)
Latest data shows wearing a mask provides some risk reduction for the wearer. CDC is now recommending for personal protection.

Scientific Brief: Community Use of Cloth Masks to Control the Spread of SARS-CoV-2 | CDC

Vaccines will not be 100% effective so probably good to continue wearing until infection rates are low.

Pfizer vaccine is no silver bullet - Axios

Part of the big problem with vaccines, is that there are a group of people (a significant minority) who refuse to get them and refuse to get them for their kids.

Herd immunity only works if something like 78% or higher of a given population is immune. If there's a cluster in Kentucky (for example) who rejects the vaccine, and that cluster is in a town where only 40% of them DO get the vaccine, it means there won't be any herd immunity in that town, at all. But those 40% who get vaccinated will have a huge advantage because they will be at the lowest risk of getting sick AND if they get sick anyway, the lowest risk of severe symptoms.

That's pretty much the point of all vaccines. Immunity at the most. Significantly reduced risk and significantly reduced symptoms, at least. But only for those who get vaccinated, AND if at least 78%+ become immune, then the immunity covers the "herd."

nick demis 11-11-2020 06:06 AM

Here in Massachusetts it is very rare to see anyone without a mask and it is still spreading. Make you wonder it the masks are necessary or just a method of spreading fear?

kannon 11-11-2020 06:10 AM

Found this information:
If an individual is vaccinated and they are protected from infection, they will not transmit the virus to someone else. But, it is expected that COVID-19 vaccines may protect against severe infection, but not necessarily prevent mild or asymptomatic infection. If this is the case, a vaccinated person could still spread the virus if they are infected. This is why it is expected that even after a vaccine becomes available, people will need to use masks and practice social distancing measures for some time.

There is still a lot scientists are learning about Covid. Like even if vaccinated, how long do the antibodies last.

I don't like masks. But I don't like people dying even more. If wearing a masks protects both me and others (recent study this week) then I will wear a mask. I hope our communities work together and help each other. One day this will be under control thanks to our wonderful scientists and caring communities. We can get thru this together, will just take some time.

Heyitsrick 11-11-2020 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1859139)

Vaccines will not be 100% effective so probably good to continue wearing until infection rates are low.

Pfizer vaccine is no silver bullet - Axios

The Axios article is written by a business editor who specializes in deals and dealmakers. I'm not sure his medical opinions carry much weight.

Dan Primack | Axios | HBO

Eg_cruz 11-11-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

I will not be getting the shot....people are crazy if they do.....in my humble opinion
FYI people in trails have died from it. It is too rushed too new......so I will pass

Heyitsrick 11-11-2020 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1858990)
Bloomberg


"The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government."

From the same article you linked to:

Quote:

Operation Warp Speed is credited with speeding along several other vaccine programs, including one from Moderna Inc.that uses similar technology to Pfizer’s and could produce trial data later this month. The Trump administration’s rapid-vaccine operation, led by the Health and Human Services Department, the Defense Department, and other agencies, could well prove to be the reason many Americans get a vaccine in 2021, even if it’s not made by Pfizer.

Eg_cruz 11-11-2020 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pettys1 (Post 1858864)
No vaccines an still no mask. Can't get rid of something if your not exposed to it to buildup antibodies

That was my brothers thinking....oops he caught it
That was my sisters thinking.....oops she caught and is in the hospital, all signs show she will be fine but it’s been a battle and will be on oxygen for quit some time
So........the saying “Buyer Beware” be careful what you are buying into

G.R.I.T.S. 11-11-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1858803)
The new vaccine is better than 90% effective according to reports on testing.

Question: Will you still wear a mask after you get the vaccination? I know my answer but I am interested in the opinions of others that have been very adamant regarding the use of masks and their demand that EVERYONE wear masks.

Once I receive the vaccine doses and after the proper length of time for the vaccine to work, I will leave the mask behind.


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