Dr. Fauci's message regarding vaccination
 

Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Methinks you are finding to much to worry and be confused about about.
Like me, sit back and enjoy your vaccination!

Another one? Seriously?

2 fingers of scotch with one ice cube,,,,will make this all go away.:ho:

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.[/QUOTE]


Hook, line, and sinker...sorry.

What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Hopefully in a few months they will conclude that after we are vaccinated the virus cannot be spread from a vaccinated person

Agree with you on that.

We love cruising but if we had to wear a mask all day will find other ways to travel.

If I was the highest paid federal employee:$: making $492,000 a year I would keep everyone confused too. :$:

Agree with you about that. We love cruising too and really miss it. Having to wear a mask most of the day is not on my hit parade when it comes to vacation.

Methinks there is a troll in the midst.

Who are you calling a troll?

We have heard too many confusing statements the past year from the great doc that I know when he says something, it’s going to be more confusion. I think he loves all the tv time he can get. The vaccine doesn’t mean your not going to get sick from COVID but may lesson the severity of the virus. Therefore mask should still be worn. In fact to cover themselves from looking ridiculous, you should wear 2 or 3 mask or maybe the government will issue an extra thick mask for added protection. That way possibly not too many people will get the virus even after getting the shots. To protect their views to get everyone vaccinated. Some may not believe but I was hearing this on the radio from one of the “ get vaccinated gurus”. The mask will be recommended for a long time. Who really trust anything the politicians say or their sidekicks? They gave us some certainty that mask won’t be needed after shots were given, to push the idea of no more mask! It all changes!

So:
if you add the word "ultimately" between "but it will" and "protect your family"...

I think that'd clear up the confusion. The less likely any of you are to get the virus, the less likely any of you are to spread the virus. Even if that reduced risk isn't immediate, it will, at some point, be a reduced risk of spreading as a direct result of vaccination.

I didn't find anything unclear about that. I just added the word "ultimately" and it made total sense. That's pretty much how vaccines have worked historically to eradicate or drastically reduce the risk of spreading pretty much every illness that you can be vaccinated for. The more people with the vaccine, the less likely anyone will get sick. Including family and friends.

But at this stage in the game, "reduced risk" does not mean "100% immunity." So you maintain social distancing and mask wearing and hand sanitizing to cover your bets.

I believe there is a fairly simple reason why we are being told that even though you have been vaccinated, that you should still continue to wear a mask and practice social distancing.
They can not have one group exempt from the mandated or recommended rules. "All people in this plane must wear a mask, except those people who have been vaccinated." That would be impossible to enforce. Therefore, if you still should wear a mask after you get vaccinated, they have no problem. "Everyone must wear a mask on the plane." It is simply a matter of making the enforcement of the current mandates continue to be possible.

LOL - I could make any idiot make sense if I get to edit their quotes.

I thought about this too, given your example. I found this which better explains what may be going on......

Effective Immunity and the COVID-19 Vaccines

On TOTV, someone actually DID edit one of my quotes. It happened only once that I know of but I was not very appreciative of that. That edit made my POV the exact opposite of my view on the subject.

Steve Hilton investigates origins of COVID-19, links to US commissioned research | On Air Videos | Fox News , People should know who Dr. Fauci really is.

What the 95% efficacy rate means that there are people who the vaccine will not work for. Since people are not being tested afterwards to confirm they have the antibodies, then one doesn’t know for whom the vaccine worked or not. Also, no one knows how many antibodies anyone got, how strong they are going to be, and how long it is going to last. Another concern is the variants, which reduces the efficacy of the vaccine. Both Pfizer and Moderna were tested with the coronavirus that was available at that time. Unfortunately that coronavirus strain is no longer the primary one. Thus, to protect oneself and others, one needs to continue to social distance, wear a mask, clean their hands often.

What Fauci said which I have not found to be true is that the current vaccines will stop replication of the virus. The RMA viruses do not work in that way. What they do is programs the cell to produce antibodies to make one less likely to get sick, or if they do, have weaker symptoms. (If anyone finds scientific data to the contrary, please share) The vaccines that use the adenovirus cell and the synthetic coronavirus, that we are waiting to get approved, will.

I think he should spend more time researching and less time on TV talk shows.
Appears that he enjoys changing the science to fit the narrative of the week.

When will you realize that Fauci is an a puppet of the globalists like Gates, and Soros who has been wrong about everything concerning the virus. Amzing that anyone still believes anything he says.

So, we are to wear masks and social distance for the rest of our lives? We would have been better off never doing either and allowing herd immunity to work its way out. Perhaps we would have been past this nightmare 6 months ago.

Agree. Also, it is possible the 95% number is more like 60-70% when faced with the new virus mutations. So the idea is to get everyone vaccinated as soon as possible, because that gives the virus less of a chance to mutate. And in the meantime wear masks for the reasons stated above. If we can get everyone on board with that, we can defeat this thing. Scientists are exploring a booster shot to combat the mutations. Once we do that, scientists say we can reach herd immunity. This is better than letting people die to achieve herd immunity. It is estimated that if natural infection was used to reach herd immunity, in the US, 70% of the population would have to recover from Covid to halt the epidemic. If that many people were sick at once, the health care system would be overwhelmed. We've seen this happen in certain parts of the country. This amount of infection would lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those with chronic conditions.

Yes, and we can move on from hearing this over and over and over. Maybe those who fixated on it will finally go out and get some fresh air and live their life, instead of pining over the TV

Not sure WHY the big rush to put foreign RNA and DNA in your body........smh.......read all you can before you get this so called vaccine

Your misunderstanding of science does not make the science incorrect. And your conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

Not true Mr Bean

Fauci flip flops like a dying fish. Dont like what he has to say? Wait for the next news cycle.

From what I understand, this "vaccine" works very differently than all other vaccines. Some doctors say that it's technically not a vaccine.

While vaccines give you immunity from contracting the virus, this one prevents the virus from using your body to replicate itself. If the virus can't replicate, it can't make you sick.

But it sounds to me, and I am not a doctor or scientist, that you may still contract the virus but it can't hurt you. So if you are carrying the virus, you can possibly transmit it to others. It seems to me that once everyone that wants to be vaccinated is, then we can stop wearing masks.

If there is a doctor or scientist on this forum that can explain this better or contradict what I'm saying, please do so.

Mask wearing and vaccination are not different topics. Wearing a mask is to protect others. (Even though most people still believe it protects them) Vaccination protects you, but it is necessary to build herd immunity—I.e., protecting everyone.

There are only 3 ways out of this:
Containment: no longer possible. That’s what lockdowns, social distancing, mask wearing were for. Didn’t work.
Infection: just let everyone get it. Unconscionable
Innoculation: get vaccinated, herd immunity.

The way I see it, mask wearing will continue until vaccines are widely available. After that, you will not be able to force the people who have acted to help protect everyone to continue wearing masks for those who will not protect themselves.

Many say this is like the seasonal flu. True. We do not force everyone to stay masked when individuals can opt to take a vaccine to protect themselves and others.

I would point out that the annual influenza vaccine is between 40% and 60% effective.

Hahahaha "don't wear a mask, wear mask!" thats Fauci - seriously not my source of info

There is no contradiction. After being vaccinated a person can harbor the virus in the nasopharynx for some time period and we don't yet know what is this period. The vaccinated person, when exposed to an infected person, can harbor the virus. There is an Israeli study going on that will give us raw data soon.

Bingo

Unlike a lot of people, Dr. Fauci is willing to change his advice based on the latest science. It's pretty sad that a large number of people think that admitting when you're wrong, or changing your mind, based on new information, science and facts - is considered a weakness.

Vaccine
 

Guess you haven't heard the percentage of protection has been lowered to 65%. It's about control.I don't believe anything our government says, their truth percentage rating is less than 10%, but still it seems a too large percentage of our population are still naive enough to think the government and media says anything that is close to the whole truth. The only real truth is darker days are coming.

Really? Maybe people have been locked up too long. Fauci cannot be trusted to know anything. The medical organizations like the WHO has proven to be a political machine first and last. These shots have not gone through the vigorous testing they should have and people believe the news media. Really?

Wow..all these experts on here giving us their "expert" opinion. Cuz I heard it on TV. Yes Puppets.:blahblahblah: