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Heartnsoul 02-13-2021 09:07 AM

Not getting vaccine?
 
Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

Boomer 02-13-2021 09:33 AM

I have never been so ready to get a shot in my entire life. (a shot in the arm that is)

We have had our first one. (Moderna) We each had sore arms for a day, but that was it.

I went with an epi-pen in my purse. Mr. Boomer has been known to have allergic reactions to certain antibiotics and once to bees, years ago. I knew they would have epi at the site, and we do not normally carry epi, and antibiotics and bee reactions have not been reported as potential issues, but I wanted to be ready anyway so I had him get one for the occasion. It was not needed. (I didn’t really think it would be, but I was in just-in-case mode.) When you fill out the form and report a history of allergic reactions, they have you wait half an hour instead of 15 minutes. He was fine — absolutely fine.

Does having just one shot so far mean that Bill Gates can track me only half the time?

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-13-2021 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1901535)
I have never been so ready to get a shot in my entire life. (a shot in the arm that is)

We have had our first one. (Moderna) We each had sore arms for a day, but that was it.

I went with an epi-pen in my purse. Mr. Boomer has been known to have allergic reactions to certain antibiotics and once to bees, years ago. I knew they would have epi at the site, and we do not normally carry epi, and antibiotics and bee reactions have not been reported as potential issues, but I wanted to be ready anyway so I had him get one for the occasion. It was not needed. (I didn’t really think it would be, but I was in just-in-case mode.) When you fill out the form and report a history of allergic reactions, they have you wait half an hour instead of 15 minutes. He was fine — absolutely fine.

Does having just one shot so far mean that Bill Gates can track me only half the time?

Yes. If you get both shots he will pull out the Jewish lasers. You have no chance of escape, then!

(p.s. I'm Jewish - it's funny, I promise)

Heartnsoul 02-13-2021 09:51 AM

Not getting shot?
 
This post is for those NOT getting the vaccine. Please do not respond u are getting it. I would like to speak to those who are NOT GETTING IT TK U

Boomer 02-13-2021 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1901546)
Yes. If you get both shots he will pull out the Jewish lasers. You have no chance of escape, then!

(p.s. I'm Jewish - it's funny, I promise)


Oy vey!

Boomer 02-13-2021 10:17 AM

In response to the OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

golfing eagles 02-13-2021 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1901572)
In response to OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

That was very polite! I might have responded differently:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean 02-13-2021 02:49 PM

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coffeebean 02-13-2021 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1901572)
In response to the OP’s Post #4 as I defend my Post #2:

Well, OP, even though we got the shot, I think my earlier post was helpful because there are those who might also have concerns about allergic reactions. Therefore, my post was intended to give them info that might help them with their decision. Going in with an epi in my purse (although, not needed, thank goodness) was a plan that others might want to use.

My post was legit, solid, primary source information that shared how I addressed concerns over allergic reactions and how the shot caused absolutely no problems.

You must be having your own specific concerns about getting the vaccine. Why not share them?

I remain,
Helpful, One-Shot-Down, One-To-Go Boomer

That would make a great signature!!!

Karadad 02-13-2021 04:56 PM

These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

Bjeanj 02-13-2021 05:19 PM

The woman across the street is 88, and she has not gotten hers yet. She is concerned because she’s been ill, and had heard of some of the side effects.

Byte1 02-13-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Karadad (Post 1901725)
These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

Why do you say that? Are you saying that the certifying officials signed off on these because the gov ordered them? You do know that this procedure has been in the testing stages for several years, right? The only difference is that it was targeted to this particular virus. Before this, it was targeted to SARs-2, I think. At any rate, if you read any of the papers on it, you will see that since there is absolutely NO virus material involved in it's creation, there is little to fear. If by "fully vetted" you mean they have not been in trial for COVID for a dozen years, you are correct. Of course there will be plenty that will not get the shot. Hey, if not for concerns for my spouse, I wouldn't. I do not fear catching the virus, other than the idea of my spouse catching it due to my disregard. I haven't had the flu and I do not get the flu shot, but my spouse does get the flu shot. I got my COVID inoculation, but I may not get it next year, if they suggest it.

It all depends on how safe you feel you are when out and about. Like a famous person once sagely said "are you feeling lucky, punk?" If you are concerned about what it might do to a frail person, then I would suggest seeking advice from a professional, not a social forum. It may very well be that one will have to weigh the options. Take a slim chance of a negative reaction from the shot, or take a chance at a DEADLY reaction from catching the demon virus.

La lamy 02-13-2021 06:11 PM

I'm not getting it. Various reasons: I'm still considerably young at 56, I've had averse reaction to flu shot, I'm not sure it will be effective for long or for variants.

Byte1 02-13-2021 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1901732)
The woman across the street is 88, and she has not gotten hers yet. She is concerned because she’s been ill, and had heard of some of the side effects.

Has she consulted her physician?

Topspinmo 02-13-2021 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901548)
This post is for those NOT getting the vaccine. Please do not respond u are getting it. I would like to speak to those who are NOT GETTING IT TK U


Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

Bjeanj 02-13-2021 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1901751)
Has she consulted her physician?

Yes.

asianthree 02-13-2021 07:22 PM

At this time NO.. worked for 5 months exposed 50-60 hours a week, no symptoms, never tested +, many hours without proper PPE....Before vaccine was offered, 2 epidemiologist, 3 docs, 2 pharmacists, already had me on the NO SHOT list.

All have dealt with me on a personal level on an anaphylactic issue. All said even with all the epi in house, none of them would inject me. They have worked with me over 20 years, and would always abide by their oath of “do no harm”.

stanley 02-13-2021 07:27 PM

Nope. For reasons that will start an argument and get this thread shut down PDQ, I will keep my personal choice to myself.

Kenswing 02-13-2021 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1901781)
Nope. For reasons that will start an argument and get this thread shut down PDQ, I will keep my personal choice to myself.

Yep.. It's nobody's business but mine what the reason is if I do or don't get the shot.

JoMar 02-13-2021 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1901760)
Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

Keep looking, we have had three opportunities in the last 3 weeks, Publix, SafeStart and CDR Health. Shot was with CDR. Now more opportunities available at WinnDixie, Walmart, Sam's.....may need to drive depending on the store but there are more outlets.

Topspinmo 02-13-2021 10:17 PM

When by southern oaks tents at noon today, looked like they was shut down due to the mud pit that was created, don’t tell me finely get and appointment and canceled due to field mud pit? That’s not going to dry up for awhile?

mlmarr1 02-14-2021 05:41 AM

Choice is mine to say no..

toeser 02-14-2021 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1901760)
Well, I’m not getting it cause I can’t get it. Few slots with thousands applying. Maybe if CDC ever get off the A## and approves j and j Some of us may have change to get the shot. Until then, don’t hold you breath.

The FDA is a pathetically bureaucratic and slow agency. They took an extra 10 days to approve Pfizer's vaccine out of pure bureaucracy at a time when we desperately needed to start vaccinations.

They have not approved AstraZenaca's vaccine even though the U.K. and all of continental Europe have. AZ made an error in their testing procedure that returned BETTER than expected results. AZ submitted all the data but the FDA wants them to rerun the whole testing process which takes months. The FDA is not our friend.

tsmall22204 02-14-2021 05:58 AM

Not getting the vaccine is a personal choice. You do not have to explain your decision. Please don't try to talk others out of their decision to get the vaccine.

wachteldepew 02-14-2021 06:23 AM

We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

donassaid 02-14-2021 06:39 AM

My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

Byte1 02-14-2021 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachteldepew (Post 1901834)
We will not be getting the vaccine. How could they come up with a “cure” for a virus they know very little about in less than a year? The flu and cancer have been around forever and they can’t cure them, but miraculously they have an answer to covid. Not buying it.

The choice is yours. However, if the reason is how fast they came up with the vaccine, you might want to do a bit more research to see if you are really working with valid information. The studies I have read on the vaccine indicate that they have been working on this "new" process for several years, particularly targeting Mers and SARS. When COVID became the issue, they tested the idea with COVID targeted. It is amazing how well the tests results have been. A typical flu vaccine is between 30-40% efficient. These tests are easily superior to the flu serums. I am not an expert and I do NOT receive the flu shot, ever. I have never had the flu and realize that it is just a matter of time before it hits me, IF I am susceptible to infection and not just immune. Like you, I have made my choice. I did get my COVID shot because I am NOT going to be responsible to my children for infecting their mother with a potentially deadly illness. Just my take on this. If I thought there was any danger of getting this vaccine, I would not even consider experimenting with a new product like this. However, I have had to be inoculated with a ton of vaccinations in order to travel overseas, which I would not normally even consider, so this is a no brainer.

Byte1 02-14-2021 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1901843)
My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

Like I already said in the other post, it is your choice. Personally, I am not ready to explain to my children how I neglected to protect my spouse, just because I THOUGHT the vaccine might be too young to be any good.
In my opinion, from what you are saying, you are basing your possibly life threatening move on inaccurate information. There is no proof that this doctor that passed, died because of the vaccination. His case is very unusual. Maybe the CDC said that they cannot guarantee that you wont' get sick, but they do say that with the vaccination, you have a better chance of surviving the illness if infected. I have read other studies that indicate that this is one of the best vaccine builds in use today. I have also read an Israeli study that indicates that the vaccines may (it's still early) prevent you from passing/carrying the virus to other people.
It is your decision, but make sure you are working with ALL the available information. Like I said, I am not going to tell my children that I made the mistake of convincing my spouse NOT to get the vaccination and because of that, she is no longer around for them.

Alaska Butch 02-14-2021 07:07 AM

I was a medic in the Army. I worked for a time at the military medical school “USUHS”. We studied different things in the human performance lab. To maintain certifications for our Docs and other folks with certain certifications we had regularly scheduled speakers. The Dr in this video was one of the speakers I heard at a lecture back at the school. Her testimony here is concerning. Is conspiracy theoryesque? Yes. But I am healthy, 62 and see no reason to rush it.
Dr Lee Merrit Interview - YouTube

allenpegg1@gmail.com 02-14-2021 07:13 AM

My opinion exactly. Why take a vaccine that's 94% effective against a virus that's has a 99% survival rate? Of all the people I know, including family, that have gotten the WuhanChineseCoronaVirus, none have died. Plus, how can the FLU numbers be down 98% this year? Meaning, how many deaths attributed to COVID are the result of the FLU? If the CDC/FEDs wasn't providing $$$ against COVID, there'd be less COVID??? THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!

Bill14564 02-14-2021 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1901843)
My wife and I will not get an experimental vaccine that has sickened thousands and killed dozens more including a young, healthy doctor in Florida 3 weeks after he had the shot. The CDC itself has stated that the vaccine will NOT keep you from getting Covid. So why anyone would take this shot to prevent a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate for people our age (70's) is a mystery to me. And I have had the virus.

Where do you get these numbers???

The survival rate for the 65-74 group is about 94% and for the 75-84 group it drops to 85%. The survival rate for the flu is something like 99.998%.

Avoid the shot for whatever reason you have but stop spreading bad information that could get someone else killed.

riamd1954 02-14-2021 07:30 AM

That’s your choice to get it has it’s other’s choice not to!! Why do you care??

Cobullymom 02-14-2021 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1901750)
I'm not getting it. Various reasons: I'm still considerably young at 56, I've had averse reaction to flu shot, I'm not sure it will be effective for long or for variants.

I’m right there with you, I have been a nurse for 30 years and I don’t take vaccines. I believe in keeping your own immune system strong and let it do it’s job and so far It’s not failed me. And yes I’ve been closely exposed to Covid a couple of times and no I haven’t gotten it. I’ve also had my antibodies tested twice and nothing. So you can all feel free to have mine.

Cobullymom 02-14-2021 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 1901830)
Not getting the vaccine is a personal choice. You do not have to explain your decision. Please don't try to talk others out of their decision to get the vaccine.

I haven’t heard on person harping on anyone as to not getting the shot, just giving their reasons why they don’t want one. But I sure have seen and heard plenty of lectures for those self appointed experts as to why I should get one, so I’m very confused as to your comment...

JoannMH 02-14-2021 08:02 AM

I am a healthy women in my 60's without any health issues... that I am aware of. I probably would survive COVID. However my concern is for the people in my life who may not be so healthy. I would be devastated if I passed COVID on to them. So I am getting the vaccine for them. I know that scientists are not certain if vaccinated people can still carry the virus in their nose......but I am not going to take the chance. This vaccine is for the people I care about.

Florida17 02-14-2021 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 1901510)
Who is Not getting vaccine and why did u make that decision?

not old enough, not tested long enough, reactions to other vaccines, only 98.5% of death...

Tmarkwald 02-14-2021 08:08 AM

You nailed it. This is far from being an experimental vaccine. This was heavily tested 10 years ago as a vaccine for both MERS and SARS. The outbreak died our so the vaccine was only given to about 100 000 people I think. Covid-19 is SARS as well, although a different variant. That's why it was tweaked and tested so fast. Also, there has not been a single case of anyone dying from the vaccine, even though a very small handful do get some allergic reactions.

Tmarkwald 02-14-2021 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karadad (Post 1901725)
These are experimental vaccines, not fully vetted!

I think 10 year of testing and 100,000 people as the SARS vaccine is pretty conclusive.

Byte1 02-14-2021 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florida17 (Post 1901910)
not old enough, not tested long enough, reactions to other vaccines, only 98.5% of death...

So, considering the fact that this mRNA technology has been tested over a decade, you feel that it's not been tested long enough, and it is not old enough? Interesting. How long a period of time would you set as the bar to be overcome?

Altavia 02-14-2021 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1901777)
At this time NO.. worked for 5 months exposed 50-60 hours a week, no symptoms, never tested +, many hours without proper PPE....Before vaccine was offered, 2 epidemiologist, 3 docs, 2 pharmacists, already had me on the NO SHOT list.

All have dealt with me on a personal level on an anaphylactic issue. All said even with all the epi in house, none of them would inject me. They have worked with me over 20 years, and would always abide by their oath of “do no harm”.

Where do you work?


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