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G.R.I.T.S. 02-16-2021 06:19 PM

Sheeple
 
I had a nice, distanced chat with a lady while waiting in drive thru banking lanes at a local bank. We lamented the difficulty of being understood while wearing a mask. She was in a drive-thru bank lane...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen. She's had BOTH shots and was well past the two-week wait time. She said "you have to" continue wearing a mask. My question: what's the point of frantically finding where one can get a vaccine if we "have to" continue wearing a mask? I, for one, will NOT be wearing a mask once vaccinated and past the waiting period.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-16-2021 07:06 PM

These vaccines don't prevent you from contracting the virus. What they do is use you MRNA to prevent the virus from replicating itself in your body. The virus replicating is what makes you ill. The vaccine prevents you from getting seriously ill and dying. So you can still have the vaccine in your body and transmit it to others.

Since the point of wearing a mask is to prevent the wearer from spreading the virus, a mask is still necessary until everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated.

Those who refuse the vaccine are risking their lives so it's not the responsibility of every else to keep them safe once they've had the opportunity to get the shots.

John_W 02-16-2021 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903151)
...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen

What did she say when you asked, why are you wearing a mask alone in your car by yourself? Did you mention that the bank teller was inside the bank and not in the speaker.

G.R.I.T.S. 02-17-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1903215)
What did she say when you asked, why are you wearing a mask alone in your car by yourself? Did you mention that the bank teller was inside the bank and not in the speaker.

Merely an observation. I don't confront people regarding their actions. It's still a free (?) country. I merely wonder why the hoopla over a vaccine that purports to protect. She said you "have to" wear a mask. I will continue to do so until after I receive the shots.

Marathon Man 02-17-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903285)
Merely an observation. I don't confront people regarding their actions. It's still a free (?) country. I merely wonder why the hoopla over a vaccine that purports to protect. She said you "have to" wear a mask. I will continue to do so until after I receive the shots.

Just call them "Sheeple".

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-17-2021 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903285)
Merely an observation. I don't confront people regarding their actions. It's still a free (?) country. I merely wonder why the hoopla over a vaccine that purports to protect. She said you "have to" wear a mask. I will continue to do so until after I receive the shots.

You must not have read or understood my previous post so I'll say it differently. The vaccine protects you from getting sick. It doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. A mask prevents you from spreading the virus to others if you have it.

After you've had both shots, you can still contract the virus and you can still give it to others. That is why it's necessary to wear a mask.

Once everyone that wants the vaccine receives it, masks will not longer be necessary.

The vaccine protects you, your mask protects others.

Mortal1 02-17-2021 08:00 AM

unless you cough, sneeze or spit while you talk a mask isn't necessary. And if you do sneeze, cough or spit while you talk do it into your sleeve.

I wear a mask when a business home requests it...otherwise I don't wear one.

billethkid 02-17-2021 08:04 AM

Maybe it is a consideration that most of the population is still NOT vaccinated!!!
:shocked:

Bilyclub 02-17-2021 09:11 AM

We were at the Wesley Chapel Costco yesterday when a woman was not wearing a mask properly in that it was not over her nose. A employee asked her very nicely to wear the mask properly. The lady responded by taking the mask off completely and saying: "Why, does this bother you?" The employee walked away, but we later saw the customer wearing the mask the right way and she was being shadowed by a manager through the store. My feelings were she should have been asked to leave and escorted out, but at least Costco did something to enforce their rules, unlike a lot of stores around TV. A business has the right to set rules for their property and if you don't like them don't go in.

Garywt 02-17-2021 11:37 AM

My understanding is the population is to continue to wear a mask until at least 80% of the population has been vaccinated. In places many stores require a mask to get in the store and if you take it off you are asked to leave.

G.R.I.T.S. 02-17-2021 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1903317)
You must not have read or understood my previous post so I'll say it differently. The vaccine protects you from getting sick. It doesn't prevent you from getting the virus. A mask prevents you from spreading the virus to others if you have it.

After you've had both shots, you can still contract the virus and you can still give it to others. That is why it's necessary to wear a mask.

Once everyone that wants the vaccine receives it, masks will not longer be necessary.

The vaccine protects you, your mask protects others.

You are correct. I don't understand and not embarrassed to admit it.

Dayeight99 02-17-2021 08:58 PM

The seasonal flu occurs every year. They are all contagious. Where were the masks then? Terrible flu season 2017/2018. No masks. Same 2015 and 2009/2010. No masks. What do you think the real reason is? Aren’t we able to take care of ourselves without government mandating our every move? Use God given common sense in your life. Unfortunately, the Lemmings and Sheople weren’t blessed with such.

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-17-2021 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayeight99 (Post 1903774)
The seasonal flu occurs every year. They are all contagious. Where were the masks then? Terrible flu season 2017/2018. No masks. Same 2015 and 2009/2010. No masks. What do you think the real reason is? Aren’t we able to take care of ourselves without government mandating our every move? Use God given common sense in your life. Unfortunately, the Lemmings and Sheople weren’t blessed with such.

I agree. That's why I don't stop at red lights, don't wear my seatbelt, I light up my cigarette wherever I damned well please, I cut in front of you in line (yeah, that's me, every single time), I cough out, why should I ruin my silk sleeved shirt when I can cough on YOUR shirt (or arm, woopsie!). If I need money, I just grab it from your pocket. If I need a place to sleep, I'll break into YOUR house, clock you over the head, and push you off the bed.

Because ain't no government gonna mandate MY every move, no sirree.

Dayeight99 02-17-2021 09:06 PM

Apples vs oranges, Lemming. Thanks for making my point.

ruralgoddess 02-18-2021 05:54 AM

Way to go being selfish and planning not to wear a mask after you're fully vaccinated... I hope people give you a wide berth...

Pillowtalk 02-18-2021 05:55 AM

Not wearing a mask....
 
I have a gentleman who lives in my neighborhood who was diagnosed with Covid and was in Sam’s Club three days after his diagnosis without a mask on. He refuses to wear a mask because it fogs his glasses. These are the type of people you have to worry about.....you are not really safe anywhere.
I will continue to wear a mask until it is safe for everyone (that want’s and is waiting for a vaccine). If people don’t want a vaccine that is their choice, but I will follow the science. These people that don’t care about other people are not only playing Russian Roulette with their lives but with innocents as well.

sdeikenberry 02-18-2021 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1903320)
unless you cough, sneeze or spit while you talk a mask isn't necessary. And if you do sneeze, cough or spit while you talk do it into your sleeve.

I wear a mask when a business home requests it...otherwise I don't wear one.

Mortal1, you are mistaken. Droplets of moisture are expelled even when talking and breathing. Science my friend...science.

Leadbone1 02-18-2021 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903151)
I had a nice, distanced chat with a lady while waiting in drive thru banking lanes at a local bank. We lamented the difficulty of being understood while wearing a mask. She was in a drive-thru bank lane...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen. She's had BOTH shots and was well past the two-week wait time. She said "you have to" continue wearing a mask. My question: what's the point of frantically finding where one can get a vaccine if we "have to" continue wearing a mask? I, for one, will NOT be wearing a mask once vaccinated and past the waiting period.

Right with you on this. First of all I don’t wear a mask hardly ever now. I have had the first shot of the vaccine and getting the second next month. At that point in time I will not be wearing a mask. If someone wants to try to kick me out of a store they’re going to have a problem. It is not a law and people need to stop acting like it is. The degree of paranoid that exist among so many people Is alarming

bd20166 02-18-2021 06:12 AM

welcome to the light

Tmarkwald 02-18-2021 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1903834)
Right with you on this. First of all I don’t wear a mask hardly ever now. I have had the first shot of the vaccine and getting the second next month. At that point in time I will not be wearing a mask. If someone wants to try to kick me out of a store they’re going to have a problem. It is not a law and people need to stop acting like it is. The degree of paranoid that exist among so many people Is alarming

Any business has the right to refuse service and ask you to leave. Masks are mandatory but you cannot be fined in Florida.

Of more concern is the effect on others and the fact that you can still carry the virus to others, yet not have the virus yourself. I think you will get a lot of pushback on this.

Not up to any of us to regulate what other's do, however protecting our fellow man should still be a concern since the mask is not designed to protect you, but rather to protect others.

tsmall22204 02-18-2021 06:27 AM

After vaccination, you can still carry the virus in you nasal passages to others. Masks must continue until a level of immunity is reached. She was wearing the mask to protect others.

banjobob 02-18-2021 06:40 AM

Great comment I agree wholeheartedly. The mask issue is lame if you are vaccinated immunity and otherwise healthy, those with health issues protect yourself but don’t expect the world to conform.

Tmarkwald 02-18-2021 06:40 AM

Once the vaccine is widely available and anyone can get it, we can remove the masks.

There is no reason at all to protect those who refuse to get the vaccine. That is a conscience decision to put their lives at risk.

The rest of humanity doesn't exist to protect those who refuse to protect themselves.

maggie1 02-18-2021 06:50 AM

Sorry to Hear it!
 
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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1903834)
Right with you on this. First of all I don’t wear a mask hardly ever now. I have had the first shot of the vaccine and getting the second next month. At that point in time I will not be wearing a mask. If someone wants to try to kick me out of a store they’re going to have a problem. It is not a law and people need to stop acting like it is. The degree of paranoid that exist among so many people Is alarming

Unless you're wearing a sign on your chest that reads "I've had my vaccine"., I'll bet people give you a wide birth when they see that you aren't wearing a mask. I believe any business has a right to establish rules for the safety of their customers and wearing a mask during these turbulent times is for the protection of others. How about the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign, would you take issue with that? Personally, I would feel a lot better if everyone wore a mask, at least it shows me they care about someone other than themselves.

Cobullymom 02-18-2021 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1903215)
What did she say when you asked, why are you wearing a mask alone in your car by yourself? Did you mention that the bank teller was inside the bank and not in the speaker.

Thank you, that’s what was more concerning....

Cobullymom 02-18-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmall22204 (Post 1903847)
After vaccination, you can still carry the virus in you nasal passages to others. Masks must continue until a level of immunity is reached. She was wearing the mask to protect others.

Her car?

golfing eagles 02-18-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1903163)
These vaccines don't prevent you from contracting the virus. What they do is use you MRNA to prevent the virus from replicating itself in your body. The virus replicating is what makes you ill. The vaccine prevents you from getting seriously ill and dying. So you can still have the vaccine in your body and transmit it to others.

Since the point of wearing a mask is to prevent the wearer from spreading the virus, a mask is still necessary until everyone that wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated.

Those who refuse the vaccine are risking their lives so it's not the responsibility of every else to keep them safe once they've had the opportunity to get the shots.

Legitimate source???

RDhot 02-18-2021 07:28 AM

There is no need to ever wear a mask alone in your car talking to a bank teller through the drive-through. You, for one, should continue to wear your mask after vaccination because you still may be able to transmit disease. Be part of the solution. Don’t be continuing the problem

RDhot 02-18-2021 07:30 AM

Wrong as usual. Talking alone could potentially spread the virus. Continue to be part of the problem though

RDhot 02-18-2021 07:34 AM

Great way to be part of the problem. It’s the people like you… And, any store can make a rule that you have to follow to enter their business. You don’t like it? Go somewhere else. You’re the one with the problem

merrymini 02-18-2021 07:57 AM

I love seeing people wear a mask, while in their vehicle, alone. Protecting their steering wheel?

Eg_cruz 02-18-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903151)
I had a nice, distanced chat with a lady while waiting in drive thru banking lanes at a local bank. We lamented the difficulty of being understood while wearing a mask. She was in a drive-thru bank lane...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen. She's had BOTH shots and was well past the two-week wait time. She said "you have to" continue wearing a mask. My question: what's the point of frantically finding where one can get a vaccine if we "have to" continue wearing a mask? I, for one, will NOT be wearing a mask once vaccinated and past the waiting period.

Please research you are not 100% protected from the virus.....YES you can still get Covid after vaccine....YES there are many different strain and variants not protected by the vaccine. YES you can still be a carrier and give someone else the virus.

JustRita 02-18-2021 08:06 AM

Fear is a heavy burden
 
When people live in fear, they stop thinking for themselves. They will follow any leader they find no matter where they are going. That’s what scares me.

Girlcopper 02-18-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 1903151)
I had a nice, distanced chat with a lady while waiting in drive thru banking lanes at a local bank. We lamented the difficulty of being understood while wearing a mask. She was in a drive-thru bank lane...alone in her car...wearing a mask...talking to a bank employee via a video screen. She's had BOTH shots and was well past the two-week wait time. She said "you have to" continue wearing a mask. My question: what's the point of frantically finding where one can get a vaccine if we "have to" continue wearing a mask? I, for one, will NOT be wearing a mask once vaccinated and past the waiting period.

Yes, you will be wearing a mask in any place that mandates it. No one ever said the mask comes off once the shot goes in. Apples n oranges when you say why get the vaccine if you still need to wear a mask. One has nothing to do with another.

Rosie1950 02-18-2021 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1903834)
Right with you on this. First of all I don’t wear a mask hardly ever now. I have had the first shot of the vaccine and getting the second next month. At that point in time I will not be wearing a mask. If someone wants to try to kick me out of a store they’re going to have a problem. It is not a law and people need to stop acting like it is. The degree of paranoid that exist among so many people Is alarming

So if the sign on the door says shirt and shoes required to enter OR no receipts no returns, or any other store policy posted, am I under the impression YOU are King and can decide what store policy you think could possibly pertain to YOU?
Disorderly conduct is an arrest-able offense. Love to be a witness to that big shot.

Villages Kahuna 02-18-2021 08:21 AM

You can still contact the virus and pass it on to others. Then there’s the new variants of the virus about which little is known.

Please, please be considerate of others who may not have been vaccinated. You can get the virus and infect others like me and my wife. Our doctor tells us that with our medical situation infection will have serious results, possibly even a lethal outcome.

ladyarwen3 02-18-2021 08:25 AM

Why are we calling people names? I grew out of that in grade school

Buckeye Bleau 02-18-2021 08:46 AM

The purpose of the mask is primarily a social function for a start to your programming.
In the 1930’s the Japanese knew that one could not successfully invade America, too many home defenders.
The Chinese have said that America needs to be disarmed.
Disarming America when we stand together would be very difficult. Like the story of breaking one twig versus a bundle, divided we fall.
The mask is a symbol in your mind that you cannot trust the other person. This has an impact, don’t roll your eyes.
If you begin distrusting your neighbor and coworker then you will understand when someone rolls up and takes their property.
Maybe you go along with a rumor that they need reprogramming. Maybe you don’t trust them and you get in a dispute, so you turn them in.
The mask is about programming, not the pathogen.
Obey your new Chinese Overlords and wear that mask!

scottiesrgreat@gmail.com 02-18-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1903320)
unless you cough, sneeze or spit while you talk a mask isn't necessary. And if you do sneeze, cough or spit while you talk do it into your sleeve.

I wear a mask when a business home requests it...otherwise I don't wear one.

Me, too - I do (and have no problem with having to) wear a mask and distance when required.

Otherwise - ANYONE in my home, car or yard is not required to wear a mask or distance. If they wish to - that is ok w/me.

And folks —— there is so much data (that is not governed or standardized in a consistent manner), so many experts and governing bodies - with different numbers, changing recommendations, etc... ... yada yada yada ... But, still feel free to post until you are ‘blue in the face’ .... you are not changing anyone’s mind ..... and someone will *always* be able to find a reliable resource that supports another view - always!

If you want this to consume the short time you have left on this earth - fine, your choice. I choose to live!!! I choose to spend time with friends & family and enjoy living! Because when I take my last breath - I know I will regret it, if I do not.

Cheryl Barrios 02-18-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1903775)
I agree. That's why I don't stop at red lights, don't wear my seatbelt, I light up my cigarette wherever I damned well please, I cut in front of you in line (yeah, that's me, every single time), I cough out, why should I ruin my silk sleeved shirt when I can cough on YOUR shirt (or arm, woopsie!). If I need money, I just grab it from your pocket. If I need a place to sleep, I'll break into YOUR house, clock you over the head, and push you off the bed.

Because ain't no government gonna mandate MY every move, no sirree.

I know you are saying this in jest simply to try to ridicule the poster who you included in your response. However, with that said, your behavior will probably cause you severe harm if not death too. Especially when you break into someone's house.


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