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Papa_lecki 08-01-2021 12:28 PM

TOTV is un-bearable
 
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

Dana1963 08-01-2021 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981766)
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

With some the posts common sense is lacking.

Toymeister 08-01-2021 12:36 PM

The salesman's posts on reverse mortgages (a few months ago) were worse but, yes, I agree.

Taltarzac725 08-01-2021 12:39 PM

Talk of the Villages is still useful for many things. Just put whoever bothers your sensibilities on your Ignore List.

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 12:49 PM

I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

photo1902 08-01-2021 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981766)
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I completely agree.

Not to mention the idiocy of all the posts where the authors are constantly "rolling on the floor laughing"

Taltarzac725 08-01-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981780)
I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

Agree there. I have a B.A. in Philosophy which involved developing critical thinking skills and reading materials written by people who have very different views on things.

Got kicked out of the Unification Church for being too adversarial. I only went to the house they had near the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR) campus as there was a very friendly black man hanging around the Humanities Building who invited me over to talk about Philosophy. It took me a while to learn he was the Northern Nevada Chapter Head for the Unification Church or the Moonies.

Talk about unwanted phone calls! They started targeting my parents with scam like calls that weekend. That was how they operated in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Had to finally use a lot of profanity to get them to stop calling at the end of the following weekend after I attended one more of their discussions at the house near UNR. The Chapter Head had enticed me there with a promise of meeting a pretty girl. I fell for it. Did meet her. I was around 21 at this time.

graciegirl 08-01-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981766)
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

I was given a point on my record three days ago for directly addressing a poster and being unkind.

I did feel that my comments were not as unkind as other comments, but it is hard not to get all mad some times. Some people enjoy that happening and I think sometime it is the main reason for their posts.

Kenswing 08-01-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981766)
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

Totally agree. There are four or five posters that are the Covid Warriors. They will argue with each other ALL day long over the same thing. I'm surprised they actually take time out to eat. A couple of them post upwards of 50 times a day. If Covid ever goes away I wonder what these people will do? They'll have to learn to live life all over again.

I only pop in once or twice a day now just to see if there's anything related to The Villages and the lifestyle. If I want to get information on the state of Covid this isn't the place I'm going to do it.

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1981791)
Some people enjoy that happening and I think sometime it is the main reason for their posts.

LOL!

Reminds me of the cartoon ages ago, a guy with an umbrella is walking in a zoo and comes up to the lion cage. He pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, he pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, I think at some point he is warned to not poke the lion, then we see the lion with an umbrella hanging from his mouth...

Moral, not a good idea to poke sleeping lions - LOL.

Taltarzac725 08-01-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981799)
LOL!

Reminds me of the cartoon ages ago, a guy with an umbrella is walking in a zoo and comes up to the lion cage. He pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, he pokes the lion with his umbrella and jumps back, I think at some point he is warned to not poke the lion, then we see the lion with an umbrella hanging from his mouth...

Moral, not a good idea to poke sleeping lions - LOL.

Took my Mom to the foot doctor a few days ago and they are requiring masks again. They did not for a few months lately.

And I am wearing a mask on occasion too when going to a store but only masking up if it is crowded.

This is a bearable inconvenience. TOTV often has useful information about something or another.

Bill14564 08-01-2021 01:29 PM

In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.

tvbound 08-01-2021 01:33 PM

Is everyone now allowed to publicly complain about moderation and/or any infractions, or do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can get away with doing it? If the latter - I'm screwed. lol

graciegirl 08-01-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1981809)
Is everyone now allowed to publicly complain about moderation and/or any infractions, or do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can get away with doing it? If the latter - I'm screwed. lol

Oh dear. I do recall we aren't supposed to discuss moderation. I think I am too. Screwed.

Kelevision 08-01-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1981807)
In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.

Why ARE they out of golf carts???

John41 08-01-2021 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981766)
Between the coffee posts and the COVID posts, this forum is becoming un bearable.

(BTW, no on is changing anyone’s mind on masks or vaccines)

There are three forums so you have a choice. Maybe General is your cup of tea. Why don’t you post topics that interest you there or on Non Villages Discussions. Some of us like currents events discussions even if they get a little rowdy and off topic at times. Different strokes for different folks. Have a nice day.

dtennent 08-01-2021 01:54 PM

While I don't reply often, I usually reply when I seen someone posting misinformation. Just to be clear, misinformation does not arise because I disagree with a personal position. Rather, misinformation is a statement of "facts" that have no basis in any substantiated publication - for science that is an article from a refereed journal. For nonscience subjects, it means that several responsible news outlets are in agreement with the facts.

I read everything from the NY Times to the New Republic so I hope to hear multiple positions on an issue. What I don't do is to blindly follow any given leader, talking head, etc. BTW, the more I learn, the more I am amazed how our elected leaders of both parties can't figure out how to reach/listen across the aisle to create much stronger legislation that would help us all.

DeanFL 08-01-2021 01:55 PM

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Must say, I used to be loyal and checked ToTV a few times per day type of person. And if I felt I could add value, I'd try.

Lately there seems to be an abundance of typical yada and limited interesting 'stuff'. Yes, the coffee thing, irritating. Very few 'sponsors' post much - I simply pass by. I do review some posts that I may find appealing, but that seems to be so minimal now. And the 'usual suspects' who simply have to post their 1-5 words rsp or silly emoticons. Gets very old.

I get the ToTV top posts email each morning. And probably check in if I'm bored. Perhaps it's me and old age crankiness creepin' in...
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Stu from NYC 08-01-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 1981773)
The salesman's posts on reverse mortgages (a few months ago) were worse but, yes, I agree.

Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

jebartle 08-01-2021 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981780)
I am sorry you feel that way (OP), definitely the reason there is the ignore list.

Personally, I want to have discussions with people I disagree with. I want to learn why they believe what they believe, I want people to challenge my views and beliefs. I have no use whatsoever with immature posts ridiculing and calling names. I will admit on occassion I get annoyed and post a sarcastic post that could be interpreted as ridicule, but I try not to.

So, I am glad we can disagree publically. I wish we could have a section for political discussions/arguments, which you have to join and agree to whatever to participate in, but I expect that is not going to happen.

And while I am an evil bleeding heart liberal, I have met several conservatives here that I highly respect both for their civility and for the well reasoned and well-spoken arguments.

I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

asianthree 08-01-2021 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 1981816)
Why ARE they out of golf carts???

Supply chain like anything else. First available delivery date is December, if you order a cart they give you one to drive until order is filled. So low on carts either rental or for delivery

asianthree 08-01-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1981838)
Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

Or decided to spend advertising dollars to a site that those not interested just move on, instead of attacking sponsors. If I am not interested in a business I just don’t read the post, it’s an option.

TOTV has become less about great info, and more about couple of subjects that no one has control. I now find a spend about 10 minutes a day here. I used to find this site so helpful, with thought, and experience on getting things done.

Now as a new person if you ask a question you can plan on a percentage that will either let you know you don’t have a clue, shouldn’t live here, can’t spell or formulate a sentence, or just downright attack the new poster. Then there is a small percentage that actually helps, instead of great helpful info. Doesn’t anyone go out and play anymore?

Papa_lecki 08-01-2021 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 1981807)
In just the last few days I've learned about breakfast places, intermittent problems with a golf cart, ways to clean mold and mildew off the house, ways to repair cracks in a quartz countertop, the reason Villages Golf Carts is out of stock, possible issues with automatic payments, a warning about a payment scam, and some info about internet speeds. Yes, there are some Covid threads and I've commented in them but they are far from the majority of the currently active topics.

I agree, these posts are great, and I’ve said in those posts.
Talk of The Villages should be about those topics.

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1981859)
I agree, these posts are great, and I’ve said in those posts.
Talk of The Villages should be about those topics.

Sadly, there seems to be a big bucket that everything gets dumped into. While there are lots of different sections, it seems the active one or two gets it all.

It would help a lot if there were finer-grained groups so topics could be clearly differentiated. And people could then subscribe to the ones they want and not be bothered digging through all the ones they don't want.

Babubhat 08-01-2021 03:49 PM

They need an easier way here to add to the ignore list. Mine has become ridiculously long

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1981848)
I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

Truth can be elusive, I will settle for honestly believe what they say and can explain why they believe that, and do it without being insulting and childish.

Garywt 08-01-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1981838)
Why does the coffee guy start so many threads about the same thing? Does he think more people will read his posts if there are 5 or more on the first page.

How nice the reverse mortgage seems to have moved on.

But we have the hearing aid people as well, can you here me now. Maybe a nice cup of coffee will help.

ROCKMUP 08-01-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1981791)
I was given a point on my record three days ago for directly addressing a poster and being unkind.
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Where do you see that at (Points) I'm think I'm screwed. I've had 3 posts removed and I didn't see anything wrong with them.

I had no idea. lol

Art cov 08-01-2021 05:24 PM

Some post so much that it’s annoying, I guess they just don’t have anything else to do. I mostly skip over their post. When the same people are going back n forth, as they are the only ones posting, they would be better off meeting someplace in person to have their discussion rather then boring everyone

billethkid 08-01-2021 05:36 PM

I think TOTV is still a very useful site for the most part.

It is unfortunate like so many things these days, the emphasis is always on the negative content. And isolated instances often treated as a general condition.

There are some 25,000 members out of which a minuscule % participate. And out of that minuscule participation an even smaller number that can be spoilers.

Utilizing the ignore list as well as skipping the known prolific drum beaters makes it a keeper. ....IMHO.

ROCKMUP 08-01-2021 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1981926)
Some post so much that it’s annoying, I guess they just don’t have anything else to do. I mostly skip over their post. When the same people are going back n forth, as they are the only ones posting, they would be better off meeting someplace in person to have their discussion rather then boring everyone


That would never happen, sadly, many people are cowards and only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides

EDIT: FWIW, I enjoy this place and have gotten a lot of good info from it

dewilson58 08-01-2021 05:44 PM

Don't click on the advertising threads if you don't like them.

Advertisers (coffee, reverse mortgages, lanai screens, etc.) they pay for this site.

Don't click!!!!

Get real 08-01-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 1981848)
I also like a good debate but still looking for folks that tell the truth and fact check, which is a rarity these days.

You are not allowed to debate on here. :pray:

dewilson58 08-01-2021 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1981931)
You are not allowed to debate on here. :pray:

That's debatable..

Altavia 08-01-2021 08:02 PM

The signal to noise is very poor, and most threads are off topic by the fith post. Often by the same people/trolls.

So I'm reducing time here and about ready to stop posting, maybe not visiting all together.

John41 08-01-2021 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1981963)
The signal to noise is very poor, and most threads are off topic by the fith post. Often by the same people/trolls.

So I'm reducing time here and about ready to stop posting, maybe not visiting all together.

You’ll be back if just out of curiosity.

tvbound 08-01-2021 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKMUP (Post 1981929)
That would never happen, sadly, many people are cowards and only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides

EDIT: FWIW, I enjoy this place and have gotten a lot of good info from it


"only get brave with the anonymity and safety that the internet provides"


What do you mean by "safety?" Given the number of angry nutcases and extremists (often armed) out there, it's pretty obvious that anonymity is often needed.

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 11:14 PM

It's amazing how many people feel it is annoying to HAVE TO READ all those posts.

hmmm...

Escape Artist 08-02-2021 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtennent (Post 1981818)
While I don't reply often, I usually reply when I seen someone posting misinformation. Just to be clear, misinformation does not arise because I disagree with a personal position. Rather, misinformation is a statement of "facts" that have no basis in any substantiated publication - for science that is an article from a refereed journal. For nonscience subjects, it means that several responsible news outlets are in agreement with the facts.

I read everything from the NY Times to the New Republic so I hope to hear multiple positions on an issue. What I don't do is to blindly follow any given leader, talking head, etc. BTW, the more I learn, the more I am amazed how our elected leaders of both parties can't figure out how to reach/listen across the aisle to create much stronger legislation that would help us all.

"The NY Times to the New Republic" is not a broad, varied reading list with different perspectives. Maybe you meant National Review?

Escape Artist 08-02-2021 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1981812)
Oh dear. I do recall we aren't supposed to discuss moderation. I think I am too. Screwed.

Is this a privately/independently owned and operated forum or one of The Villages' communication and information platforms ?


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