Moderna Covid booster expected by September 2021
 

Moderna is finalizing data on several booster shots for Covid 19 and urges elderly populations such as The Villages to get a booster shot to avoid respiratory complications. The efficacy of the first two shots diminishes after 6 to 9 months. We got our second shot in March 2021 so about November we will sign up for the booster. Moderna is a vaccine company that developed a vaccine against Covid 19 last year under Operation Warp Speed.

This sounds like the same marketing pitch Pfizer made within the last two months.

It will be interesting to see the studies that show not only that the antibodies are falling off but the level of antibodies needed to still be protected. There may be fewer antibodies today than nine months ago but if the level is still far above what is needed for protection against the virus then getting a booster is just putting money into the manufacturer's pocket.

I wonder if the saferestart web site that scheduled our first two Moderna shots will notify us when boosters become available to schedule?

I’m done tired of the lies. No more shots for us

I am not a doctor, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn express last night ---
It would seem to me that full FDA approval of the original vaccine should be done first, before a booster of this emergency vaccine is ready.

I have yet to see a convincing argument FOR getting a booster for a vaccine that they have no confidence in. Sounds like a "shot" in the dark hoping to hit their target. Prob wait and see how it goes. If I get sick, then it is on me and you all can say "told ya." If not I'll prob be better off than those vaccinated IMO.

Seems like a valid point...:thumbup:

Like the FLu I guess they will come out with a new version of vaccination for every variant. No thanks, I'll pass and take my chances. But that's just me and I think everyone else should do what they think they should do. Even a security blanket will keep the baby warm a little bit.

If the side effects are as mild as the first two doses were, and the peace of mind after, as good…sign me up!

What/Why is the US FDA taking so long to make a ruling for the first Vax's?
Vax's are classified as "Experimental", yet Millions have been given., (World wide).
I personally know persons that are waiting to get an "Approved" drug b/4 getting Vax'd.
Seems like the US FDA is just another bloated, overpaid, Gov't agency, (IMO)
p.s. We got Vax'd in later Jan, with the "Experimental" drug, no issues so far.
Maybe, will consider a "Booster", if have factual details that it is needed and approved.

Got keep the cash cow going.:duck:

6-9 months isn't very long, is it? And what about the variants - are they covered in this booster? I recall that those who got the Pfizer in July of last year as part of the clinical trials were tested for antibodies in January 2021 and the results were good as they still showed robust levels.

Pfizer has postponed Boosters.....I do believe they have an ADE problem on their hands and trying to get ahead of it.:mornincoffee:

The variants up to lambda are covered by the booster. Also for those whose first two shots were less than 9 months ago studies show there are also enough antibodies to neutralize up to the lamda virus. Fortunately there has been a large increase in vaccinations due to delta publicity. The required six months of data for full FDA approval have been collected and should happen soon.

How does one accelerate the process to fully approve the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine? It take time not speed...........:faint:

The FDA has collected the six months of data needed for full approval. Nothing adverse in the data but seems to be some delay is getting the recommendation finalized.

Have not heard of Pfizer’s issue but so far an ADE problem in the existing vaccines has not developed.
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Neither COVID-19 disease nor the new COVID-19 vaccines have shown evidence of causing ADE. People infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, have not been likely to develop ADE upon repeat exposure. This is true of other coronaviruses as well. Likewise, studies of vaccines in the laboratory with animals or in the clinical trials in people have not found evidence of ADE.

My daughter's cardiologist told her that he was vaccinated and still ended up in the hospital with COVID. He suggested that since she had already had the virus earlier that she should NOT get vaccinated. I'm just throwing that out since everyone seems to throw out all those deathly ill folks and deaths they insist on telling us about. Not that I am suggesting that this is not serious. I am just passing it on as another thought for some to think about. Personally, I was surprised to hear of any physician suggesting NOT getting a vaccination.
If my vaccination is only good for six months, I am thinking of taking my chances without a booster. I went a year without the vaccination. My choice and I figure that if anyone else is worried about me carrying the virus and exposing them, then they can wear a mask around me. They do not have to visit me if they are afraid, and I believe in social distancing anyway.

The required six months of data collection has been completed for full FDA approval and no adverse issues. Seems a bottleneck in issuing the report which could remove vaccine hesitancy.

The longer they wait the better outcome.

What is ADE?

Antibody-dependent enhancement

So immune comprised, patient in active chemo, or have a organ transplant. That is what was announced to us this morning, for guidelines for booster. At this time just because you think you need a booster, it’s not in the mix.
No exact date released, as of this morning to us. Our small group is over 26,000, and estimated those who possibly qualify will be less than 1%. But not taking into account those who have not had vaccine, or only one dose.
So I am very happy, I don’t qualify.

Pfizer or Moderna vaccines do not have an ADE problem. There is no evidence of this and I wonder where you get your information from?

Do the mRNA vaccines cause Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) with COVID-19 disease? | Immunize BC

Are you sure of that...the link is false...mRna vaccines never made it past animal trials. Most experienced Cytokine Storms when re-infected and died. It is a real thing. They are not sure about the human trial you are in.

Not really known
 

They may have boosters available then, but Moderna Executive said today that they do not know when it will be needed. He stated MAYBE by this winter.

He went on to state that Tests so far, based on cases, show Moderna still about 93% effective after six months, so has diminished only a couple of percentage points. Majority of even the more elderly people have only been covered for six months or less.

All speculation at this point.

It's not "within the last two months." Pfizer said from the very start of their development that they wouldn't know how long the vaccines would last, and this was part of the process. There was a big to-do when it passed the six-month mark and they said it was holding firm, but that they STILL didn't know how long it would remain as effective. Moderna said the same, and so did J&J.

We all knew that there was a distinct possibility there'd be a need for a booster, or even a vaccine every year indefinitely. It was always a possibility and no one ever tried to hide this from anyone, it was well-publicized.

Part of the problem is that the vaccine wasn't administered to the majority. If the majority had been vaccinated, the virus possibly wouldn't have lasted long enough to need a booster. It would've possibly died out. But since the majority isn't vaccinated, we'll never know for sure. And so we're in the situation we're in now.

Here is another source. Still, no evidence of ADE with mRNA vaccines........
Antibody-dependent Enhancement (ADE) and Vaccines | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Here is one more that refutes ADE with mRNA vaccines.........
Are COVID-19 vaccines causing antibody-dependent enhancement?

Here is one from the NIH.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease - PubMed

"Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent."

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My mistake. It was not "within the last two months," it was 28 days ago.

There was always the possibility that boosters would be necessary but on July 9 it was reported that Pfizer intended to request approval for a booster after six months. The FDA and CDC pushed back.

Did you read the full article?? Did you notice this line: "Current data on COVID-19 vaccines is limited, but does not so far reveal evidence of ADE of disease."

This article doesn't aim to prove that ADE is an issue with the COVID vaccines, it only wants to show that there is little notice in the consent forms about the possibility of ADE.

Yes.....because previous animal trials ADE was prevalent and resulted in death to many. It is a matter of concern and when they get around to full disclosure...ADE will be on the label as a side affect.

Biedawg, Saw your quote “no more shots for us”, My guess is you’re not afraid of having a ventilator shoved down your throat and the possibility of a long brutal death. Reconsidering would be a smarter move. Getting the shot would be the smartest move. God bless

Decadeofds, don’t quite understand your comment. The original shots received emergency approval and have saved hundreds of thousands of wives. Why would you be hesitant of the booster shot until the original shots came off of the temporary approval status???????

You are either an anti-VAXer or a gambler. If the CDC comes out and says booster shots or required, get the Darn shot.

Profitable drugs for a man made virus. Who do you trust?

Are you also aware that Moderna has NEVER made a vaccine before? This is their first. Proceed with caution, and do your research

Agree, listening to Fraudci is like listening to the Boy Who Cried Wolf. CDC & Fraudci have lost ALL credibility.

So the world was going to hell and millions and millions of people were dying and then the vaccines were developed as fast as possible in the middle of a pandemic, not to avert one in the future; and then the world started to get better and better and all the numbers were dropping all over the place and millions upon millions of lives were being saved and then this variant popped up as can and does happen routinely and you can't find the proof that it is a good thing to adjust the vaccine a little and take another shot because you can't seem to find the logic in it and everyone else be dammed if someone tells you otherwise it's all about your rights. You can't be serious. This has to be about something else. It is only the antivaxxers that are dying now. Why the hell not get it. Do you use band aids to stop a tiny infection at the beginning so your leg won't have to be amputated. It's coming for you. Don't you see the videos of the dying and just died family members lamenting that were wrong to not get it. This band aid helps everyone, not just you. You can't wait for the polio shot after you are already limping. Why aren't you embarrassed by your own logic. I think you can still read that deaths to Blacks and Latino from covid are twice that of white and Asians. I heard a guy say that the presidential race was close enough that if a bunch of blacks (democrats in his eyes) die before the next election; the republicans (white in his eyes) would win again because the population of them would be depleted just enough. He also said that Blacks and Latinos have more and more babies than whites that grow up to vote and whites will not ever again be in charge of their country. Is this what this actually is? Racial genocide in a thin disguise? That would be a form of logic at least from an idiot crazy man. What about you? What is it really that is driving you guys?

I’ll take my chances and get the booster.

6 months of data is useless, let's see what long term unknown side affects bring? Hard to believe people are so trusting of anything from Government. They'll fast forward the approval on false info just to convince the unvaccinated to take it.