Measles
 

I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Not to worry, it seems to have disappeared all of a sudden like the normal flu did last year......from over1,000 cases the year before to 2 cases last year....url=https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html]Measles Cases and Outbreaks | CDC[/url]

According to Dr. Google, the measles vaccination is mostly good for life.
Fort McCoy is nearly 1400 miles from TV.
Think it's fairly safe to go out in public:icon_wink:

Not quite that simple:

For Healthcare Professionals - Diagnosing and Treating Measles | CDC

Don't worry only the people who refuse to inoculated their children may get it.
We can't save everyone all I know is my children and grandchildren received the MMR vaccine practical along with polio.

So, the only way to contract rubeola is from your unvaccinated children? Hmmmmmm.....

Clearly not my understanding of virology and epidemiology.

My children and grandchildren have been inoculated for MMR. IF I have not been inoculated odds are I could get it. The disease is spread like Covid respiratory droplets.

Are you asking me or telling me???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But FYI, prior to 1963 (when MMR became available), there were 4 million cases of measles/year. Now there are less than 1000.
Of course your grandchildren got vaccinated, it would be irresponsible of their parents to refuse it. However, there are other ways you can get measles, especially considering it is still common in other parts of the world. So be careful where you travel without getting re-vaccinated (unless you were born prior to 1957, in which case be VERY careful), or which foreign travelers you get close to. In either case, your risk of measles is extremely low, NOT "odds are I could get it"

As a child, I had the measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and various other childhood illnesses. In those days, we did not get vaccinated for that stuff. I did get the polio vaccination via sugar cubes. So, I received my immunity by surviving the illnesses. Whether or not I still have the immunity, I guess an expert will tell. I have never had the flu as far as I can tell, but I also never get the flu vaccination. Maybe once I get it and (if) survive it, I might consider getting the flu shot in the future. I have been vaccinated for the Covid, but actually did it based on my spouse's medical condition. Even though I had the chicken pox, and I do not know whether the immunity would help dealing with shingles, I still got my shingles shot when I heard that a neighbor had a bad case of shingles. I have seen how it effects folks and how painful it is, so I was vaccinated.
Be careful about discussing "measles" or someone might get the idea of doing a "gain of function" study/experimentation on measles. :duck:

If it ever became clinically relevant, you could get serum titers of antibodies to those illnesses. As far as shingles goes, having had chicken pox is a prerequisite for getting shingles, it in no way confers immunity against shingles, so you did the right thing by getting the vaccine

For many of us vaccines against Mumps, Measles, Whooping Cough were not yet available. In Columbus, Ohio in 1945 people were quarantined by the health department for these illnesses and there was a sign on your door. They did kill, and caused brain damage, and deafness. I am so grateful for all of the scientists who worked over all of the years to give us vaccines that can now save us from these and Shingles, and three kinds of pneumonia AND seasonal flu and now Covid. I will have my sleeve rolled up for the boosters for all if they are needed.

Salk and Sabin and Francis Crick are heroes to me like some have sports figures.

Byte1: the only way you CAN get shingles (herpes zoster), is if you first have chicken pox (varicella). If you've never had chicken pox, and don't get get chicken pox, you will never have shingles. Unfortunately, chicken pox is spread so easily that if you haven't been vaccinated for it, you have a very high likelihood or contracting it from someone else. Once you've had chicken pox, you are vulnerable to shingles for the rest of your life - UNLESS you vaccinate against it.

So it's good you did that.

I didn't have chicken pox when I was a kid, but I was vaccinated against it. My sister had chicken pox though. Having sores and blisters in her mouth and her "nethers" (imagine a 8-year-old kid needing to wipe themselves after going to the bathroom, but they have oozing blisters down there) was enough to convince my mom that a shot was probably the lesser inconvenience.

I did have an incredibly mild case of shingles many years ago, I thought it was ant bites. It was just a rash on my upper arm that itched and burned and went away on its own a couple of days later.

I got the Shingrix shot several years ago, as soon as I was old enough for insurance to cover the cost.

Got the MMR, the DPT (the older version of what is now known as Tdap), and polio vaccines all when I was a kid, and got some kind of booster of somethingorother in order to get into college. I got boosters on ALL the shots the CDC recommended for anyone who doesn't remember or know what they're immunized against, around the same time I got the Shingrix shot.

I get the flu shot every year now, didn't used to get it, but then I got the flu for the first time in my life, and decided a shot was the lesser of two evils.

If the CDC recommends an ADDITIONAL measles booster, I'll get that too. I don't enjoy getting shots, but I enjoy being sick even less than I enjoy getting shots. So - I get the shots.

Back in the day, as a young child in Northern Minnesota in the 1950's, about the only vaccines at the time were for polio and smallpox. Whenever a kid in the community came down with measles, mumps or chicken pox, moms of kids who hadn't had the specific disease yet brought that kid over to be exposed, the logic being that it was better to have a sick kid when you were prepared for it than not. It was never a big deal; a few days off from school but that was about it--and for some reason if you had measles you had to stay in a darkened room, which was not fun. But nobody I knew ever died from those diseases or even got very sick.

AHA! Now I have an excuse.........:clap2:

You are justified to be concerned not just with Afghans entering the US but also the 2 million illegals entering the US from the southern border being dumped in unknown locations all over the US. A man in Pinellas County, Florida in 2019 was hospitalized from measles acquired from someone who came back from overseas. Who knows how many persons he was in contact with. I will listen to our physician regarding a measles vaccination for us.
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Measles killed an estimated 207,500 people last year after a decade-long failure to reach optimal vaccination coverage, resulting in the highest number of cases for 23 years, the World Health Organization (WHO) and US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) said in a joint report on Thursday.
The death toll in 2019 was 50 per cent higher than a historic low reached in 2016, and all WHO regions saw an increase in cases, adding up to a global total of 869,770.

It is remarkable how many people on these boards seem to know more than very experienced physicians who are nice enough to share their knowledge with us.

As a child, I got measles, mumps, and chicken pox. I got a vaccine for pertussis (whooping cough) and polio, thank goodness.

About 10 years ago, I went to the doctor because I couldn’t shake this cough I had. Turns out my immunity to pertussis was either gone or very weak, as I had it! It now makes me wonder if my immunity to other diseases I had as a child are still strong.

Fear mongering.

It is very comforting knowing I live in a Village full of medical experts.

Two factors are at play:

1) In general, the more time that passes after a vaccine, the less effective it becomes.

2) The older we get, the less efficient our immune system becomes.

Pertussis vaccine is known to lose its effectiveness over time---this why the current recommendation is for grandparents that want to hold a newborn to get re-vaccinated with pertussis vaccine

Can you remember back in grade school getting shots for measles, mumps, chicken pox, pneumonia and polo etc?
Can you also recall there was no choice to get vaccinated like the covid19 shot today, everybody get the shot?

What changed??

My grandparents came to this country as unwashed immigrants, and the bigoted nativists even then screamed out that these dirty people were going to infect good Americans with diseases. Nothing has changed. The nativists are still using the same tropes and the same fear mongering against immigrants. We have had over 40 million immigrants alive in the US now, most entered outside the quota system.

Now tell me, how many infectious measles outbreaks have they caused, 40 million people. There was one in 2018 from a person from Ukraine. There was a large outbreak in an American born Orthodox Jewish NY community with a low vaccination rate and travel to Israel not immigrant related. Obviously this one could have been prevented by insisting on Americans being vaccinated before flying.

2017 an outbreak in US born Somalis in Minnesota, another vaccine refusing group.
2016 the only recent documented report in an immigrant group from the southern border.
There was a large outbreak in 2015 associated with visiting Disneyland in California. As the CDC reported:
The theme with measles is no different than that with Covid. While importation across our southern border is not zero, it is also not why we get outbreaks. Those who wish to blame our border policy lack evidence other than their confirmation bias layered on top of their nativist thinking.
And like Covid, get your shots as instructed by the experts at the CDC and you will overwhelmingly be protected.

What is the experience with measles in Texas, right at the epicenter of all those dirty unwashed illegals from countries with no shot requirement? The answer might be found on the Texas Department of health's website last updated March 2021

I was told I wasn't immune to German Measles (rubella) and when I asked my doctor to vaccinate me for it she waved her hand and said don't worry about it.

Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!

Don’t know, not a doctor just curious how that clothing drive is coming along?:popcorn:

I remember back in the day.

Unvaccinated children have been riding the coattails of the vaccinated children for years. They are the ones at risk of getting not only measles but other diseases when they are brought into our country. There have been several measles and mumps outbreaks in the Northwest over the past few years thanks to anti-vaxer parents.

Not everyone as a child went to doctors, and were vaccinated. I grew up with herbs, roots, Native American grandparents and a shaman.

.. Get informed Dude ..
 

You appear to be misinformed...or something else is on the agends..
No Gene manipulation is involved whatsoever.
Might want to give this a read if you are actually interested in the FACTS.
Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC

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Childhood Diseases
 

I was born in 1942, and had mumps, measles, and chickenpox. From what I understand, I'm pretty much immune from any of the three after having built up antibodies that stay with me for the rest of my life. Unfortunately, the chickenpox virus brings with it the potential for contracting shingle, which I have also had (worst pain I've ever experienced) and have since received the vaccination for this as well. Had the polio vaccine when it became available, and completed the two shots of Pfizer, and look forward to getting the booster when it becomes available. Antivaxers are just gambling with the odds that they, or their children, won't develop these diseases and I'll never understand why!

immigrants
 

What about all the immigrants the liberals want to let flood in with NO VACCINATIONS or check at the border - some had TB

Not good, on the clothing drive... waiting for a Church to launch a drive for the people in LA.... evidently all the refugees receive brand new clothing and hygiene products.. Religious and cultural reasons....

Well said, and, unfortunately, seems to be so true, and not just what you have stated, because some of what we have done in the world lately is nothing less than disgraceful, but that's another story. You echo my sentiments...exactly.

I was immunized as a child; when I was trying to get pregnant my doctor tested me and my immunity was not good so I got another vaccine and had to wait to get pregnant. Your doctor can check if you’re still good to go.

When you go to your doctor is definitely a good question to ask as they are the experts however I was looking up just last month about vaccinations in general from our earlier childhood years and there are quite a few that you should get boosters that I recommended Tdap is a series for for four specific diseases that we can catch in our old age as well as of course shingles, and the regular Chinese flu yearly but the first few I mentioned are extremely important as they do weekend as we age so of course please talk to your doctor

Before it was standard to give antibiotics for Strep Throat, many people who got that then got Scarlet Fever, which sometimes led to an infection of the heart that could kill or could damage one or more valves permanently. One of my aunts had to have a heart valve replacement forty years after Scarlet Fever damaged her heart. I remember one of my. Fourth grade friends having heart damage because of it in 1964.

Last summer I talked with my 92 year old dad about how scary polio was for parents when I was little and how liberating it was when we kids were able to get vaccinated. It was like emerging from under an umbrella of fear. What I remember is fighting and crying over getting a shot, and how happy I was when the next polio vaccine came on a delicious sugar cube.

Some of you can remember the kind of smallpox vaccination where the doctor broke off the end of a tiny glass capillary tube and stuck the sharp end a dozen times or more into the kid’s arm in a half-inch circle. I remember my pediatrician telling me it would be like a “Little Indian Dance.” I disagreed. Violently. Fortunately I am braver now. I’ll bet plenty of you still have a smallpox vaccination scar. Later, there was a new version that was just an injection and didn’t leave a scar. I remember not being able to touch it until the scab fell off on its own, which took several weeks.

The big difference is in the infection rate and the method of infection between measles and covid. Covid is much more virulent. Measles patient could be treated at home. Not covid . Covid patient may need lung machines . Not measles . The rate of death is only equal to measles because we have much better care today than 50 years ago. Both are highly preventable with proper vaccination and social distancing. Neither a measles or a covid patient would I kiss on the lips with a tongue insertion.

Just to clarify a bit. Tdap protects against THREE diseases---tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis. Plain tetanus is recommended as a "booster" every 10 years, pertussis in some situations, and we rarely give diphtheria vaccine boosters. You cannot "catch" shingles, it is a reactivation of the varicella (chicken pox) virus from childhood that stayed dormant in the dorsal root ganglia. And the "regular flu" is not necessarily Chinese. ( and that's weaken, not weekend). End of clarification.

Measles
 

Excuse me but how far away was the Chinese virus virus? Didn't come over this way?? Not a very good answer you did

If you're concerned...
 

You can get a blood test to see if you still have immunity