Bicycles on Golf cart path almost getting hit
 

Why is it that People driving a golf cart on a golf cart path think they can run bicyclist off the path and swear at them?
I almost seen two carts hit bicyclist today. What are these peoples problem and why do they think they rule the golf cart paths?
Is this entitlement or just complete AHOLES ?
Lets see how much trouble this post causes?

I seen two bikers riding side by side on golf cart path, the one on outside to middle was very shaky weaving way over the center line. I had to pull onto grass and stop afraid was going to hit me. So it can go both ways. Walking two or three abreast and especially riding bike’s two abreast is not sharing the MMP it hogging it when traffic coming. But, you are correct some golf carts and especially with golf bags on back are in hurry and create dangerous situations.

Golf cart path as in a path on a golf course or multimodal path, not on a golf course? If you are talking about the former, bicycles are not allowed on golf cart paths. Only golfers.

REALITY-People are people. They do not get better as they age, they get worse.
In these posts most will surely read it is someone else's fault. A post, I realized how close I was to causing an accident by MY action would seem insane.

Almost all accidents are avoidable and yet they do happen. Your job is to avoid an accident. Your job is not to teach others. And yet that is far to common.

For all-assuming other knows the law is a reach. Assuming the others know the law and will follow it is well a long reach.

Ranks right up there with dog poop, property line issues, speeding, Hacienda Hills, impact fee, reverse mortgages, annuities, bad parking posts.

Jus do a search and read all the posts you wish.

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When I ride my bike I stay way over to the right so carts can easily pass.... But, I've seen some bikers riding right in the center of the path and refuse to let anything pass... It works both ways, please people, be courteous.

This topic was beat to death just a short time ago. OP where were you?

I have found the only way to discourage the cart drivers from playing chicken with me is to 'talk car' to them. The discourteous cart drivers are the SUVs of the multimodal paths but everyone of them fears a car.

You reach into the cart drivers inner fear by using automotive horns (for bikes). Loudbicycle makes these. Loud Bicycle | Car horn for bikes.

They have two models, the 'mini' which is two diaphragm horns, hi and low pitch. This sounds like a midsized Toyota. Or the 'classic' snail horn, sounds similar to a 1998 Buick LeSabre. Neither model is suitable for cyclists that count bike accessories by the gram, or penny pinchers.

I have both, they have saved both myself and Mrs. Toymeister from non-attentive car drivers and the aggressive cart drivers. Frankly, it snaps the cart drivers out of their aggressiveness like a dog on a shock collar. They can't comprehend that a bike can sound like a car.

For the bike horn haters: if you heard mine you were doing something incredibly stupid!

At least you're honest about your trolling... :coolsmiley:

Definition from the Villages:

The multi-modal paths are for use by NON-AUTOMOTIVE traffic such as bicycles, golf carts, pedestrians, and skaters. ... nor is it smart…to drive vehicles such as smart cars, motorcycles, or mopeds on any of the multi-modal paths in The Villages.

Tis the snowbird/vistor's season, people are rude/feel entitled everywhere, just smile at them be the bigger person .. oh wait did I mention it's a full moon and the fools are loose. :a040:

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Thank you!!! I respect bicycling on the paths and on the roads but hogging a lane with a slower moving vehicle by riding three abreast isn’t fair play. Just ride in single file until the faster vehicle passes and then resume

Just having a horn that loud might be construed as "incredibly stupid":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

My experience is more recent on the bike but generally speaking - I’ve found the large majority of golf carts to wait for an appropriate time to pass or follow behind relatively respectfully for such an opportunity on the MMPs. I will generally stay well right on the path or just stop off to the side if I feel uncomfortable with the situation. I refuse to ride on main thoroughfares Morse, Buena Vista, etc., or without designated lanes except if I was with a large group.

The problem for me is it only takes one distracted or other driver to ruin the biker’s day, week, month or worse.

As a golf cart driver, I also afford generous space and consideration for the others… knowing that there but by the grace of god goes me and I wouldn’t someone passing close. Sometimes the scare of it can induce the biker into an incident without any contact at all.

Long story short - it’s not been my personal observation or experience but it doesn’t surprise me and only takes one incident for serious injury. Let’s all be safe.

Respectfully, DB

By Florida law a motorized vehicle passing a bicycle MUST be able to clear the bicycle by three feet. I seldom ride my bike on the multi modal paths, but when I do I ride as near the right side as possible. But where the MMP splits, in most cases there is not room for a golf cart to pass a bicycle and give 3 feet of clearance. At the split MMP I now ride right down the middle to prevent the cart trying to pass. I was nearly hit the only three times I let a cart pass my bike on the split MMP.; the carts missed my handle bar by inches and I was as far to the right of the split MMP as possible.

Enough Blame to Go Around
 

I ride a bike on the paths and try and stay to the right side. Why? for my own safety and to be courteous to those driving a cart. Riding a bike down the center, or riding 2 abreast, or meandering from side to side is not safe nor courteous. I could feel entitled when I ride my bike and make it difficult for carts to pass but hurt or dead is still hurt or dead.

I want the bikers to “hog” the path until they want me to pass. There were times that the bike moved all the way to the right and then cursed at me for passing when I thought it to be safe.

I'm not sure what that means, but.........I'm going to pass a biker when I want to, not when THEY want me to (as long as it is safe)

Some have been drinking, some don't think you belong there, some are jealous that you're biking and they can't get the will power to do so, etc. etc.etc.. This is also for runners and walkers too. It's a lost cause. A PROBLEM THAT WILL NEVER BE SOLVED!!!!!

I vote for the AHOLES.

Thank you so much for kindly moving to the right and letting others pass. Many bike riders ride in the center of the path, and the road, and refuse to let golf carts or cars pass even though they are much slower than the speed limit. It would be so easy for them to move to the right and let others go by. Some refuse.

Just an FYI you can be ticketed for blowing a horn in a car unless it was used in an emergency. Anger horn blowing can cost you $$.

99% of crashes are caused by human error and are avoidable which is why they are called crashes now not accidents. People need to be more cognizant.

We all need to play together in the same playground. These complaints go both ways. I suggest that golf carts obey the speed limit, bicyclists obey the rules and laws, and walkers be aware of on coming traffic. This is a community of mostly retired people. Slow down and enjoy life and stop the needless complaining.

I read these same complaints last Summer...

Perhaps the answer to your question lies within the first sentence where you reference "People driving a golf cart on a golf cart path" :)

316.271 Horns and warning devices.—
(1) Every motor vehicle when operated upon a highway shall be equipped with a horn in good working order and capable of emitting sound audible under normal conditions from a distance of not less than 200 feet.
(2) No horn or other warning device shall emit an unreasonably loud or harsh sound or a whistle.
(3) The driver of a motor vehicle shall, when reasonably necessary to ensure safe operation, give audible warning with his or her horn, but shall not otherwise use such horn when upon a highway.
(4) No vehicle shall be equipped with, nor shall any person use upon a vehicle, any siren, whistle, or bell, except as otherwise permitted in this section.
(5) It is permissible but not required that any vehicle be equipped with a theft alarm signal device which is so arranged that it cannot be used by the driver as an ordinary warning signal.
(6) Every authorized emergency vehicle shall be equipped with a siren, whistle, or bell capable of emitting sound audible under normal conditions from a distance of not less than 500 feet and of a type approved by the department, but such siren, whistle, or bell shall not be used except when the vehicle is operated in response to an emergency call or in the immediate pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law, in which event the driver of the vehicle shall sound the siren, whistle, or bell when reasonably necessary to warn pedestrians and other drivers of the approach thereof.
(7) Notwithstanding the other provisions of this section, a trolley may be equipped with a bell, and the bell is not required to be used only as a warning device. As used in this subsection, the term “trolley” includes any bus which resembles a streetcar, which is powered by overhead electric wires or is self-propelled, and which is used primarily as a public conveyance.
(8) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
History.—s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 4, ch. 86-36; s. 1, ch. 88-91; s. 325, ch. 95-148; s. 203, ch. 99-248.

I love the Loud Horn post! Made my day 🤣🤣🤣 If you can’t run with the Big Dogs, stay on the porch!

I love it when a bicyclist waves me to pass on a very winding MMP like Hogeye. Please, don’t bother… keep your hands on the handlebars. I will pass when I feel it is safe for me to pass… not when YOU think I should pass!

It happens ALL YEAR LONG, not just during snowbird season. If no snowbirds your amenity fee would triple!

I like the loud horn idea. I actually just pulled up that website to look at them. lol
My wife and I are avid bike riders and runners, we'll be using the MM paths a lot. Actually we would much rather take our bikes than a golf cart when possible.
We also mountain bike, so we know how to share paths and trails.
We never ride side by side unless we're sure there's nobody behind us. It's just common courtesy.

But there's always going to be few self centered douche bags that think they own the road, not just in TV. It's not just cart drivers either, I've seen walkers, runners and bikes do it as well.

Luckily most people do the right thing.

And rember all you need to do is hit the cyclist with your golf cart and it's probably over for you financially in addition to any injuries. It's like hitting them with a car. Since most people are older here in the Villages, any injury will probably be catastrophic. Something to consider when trying to do something dangerious to save a few minutes.

You’re right this place sucks let’s move north who’s with me?

My mother taught me to drive defensively when she was giving me driving instructions. I have spent my entire life driving cars, motorcycles, bicycles and now golf carts with the idea that anyone near me is a potential accident waiting to happen and it's my responsibility to make sure that it doesn't. To date it's worked for me. Drive defensively and you'll be OK.

I drive a car, a golf cart, and I ride a bicycle, so I think I have a balanced perspective.

90% of golf cart drivers are reasonable, safe, and courteous. Some could show some improvement, but are O.K. However, that last 2% should be banned from the paths.

The golf cart drivers I fear the most are 1) those who shave by me when passing, and 2) those who cannot stay on their side of the path.

Apparently the idea of slowing down when passing is not safe is lost on some drivers. They try to squeeze between my bike and an oncoming golf cart. That is insane and highly risky. If anyone gets trapped behind me for more than 10 seconds, I look for a place to pull over and let them by, so it's not like I'm taking up their day. What really irritates me is when a golf cart driver will pass me when there is no oncoming traffic, but stays one half in my lane. Do they not pull over to the oncoming lane when passing other cars on the highway?

The other problem is golf cart drivers who will not stay on their side of the painted or implied center line. This is especially high risk when going around blind corners. I have come around more than one corner only to be head to head with an oncoming golf cart in my lane. STOP CUTTING CORNERS.

Golf cart paths
 

It’s none of that!!! Bicycles and walkers should only be on posted “multimodal” paths! Not every golf cart road is for bikes but no I lists and walkers rudely block golf carts and walkers in middle as I have seen that! Everyone has a attitude on both sides of this issue trust me!!!! If golf cart drivers done want to be blocked by others, then those others should stay off those paths! This assertion will never change here! People in carts like their cars do not want tons obstacles getting somewhere to golf or to a rec center where their activities have a start time. Zoom zoom that’s what it will be. I would never bike or walk on those proprietary golf cart lanes!!!! It’s just stupid and forceful, sure to get people angry! Common sense should rule here!

Goodbye...
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And don’t forget Costco 🤭😮🤣

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Golf Cart drivers vs bicycle riders.
 

This is a two-way street. I have seen both rude cart drivers and entitled bicycle riders. One should not have superiority over the other. OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD. Quite simple. If the police get involved, either can be ticketed. If the court gets involved, either can be fined or charged with a crime. In the words of Rodney King, " Why can't we all just get along?"