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billethkid 02-21-2022 09:02 AM

4th covid shot for immune compromised?
 
I would think if one decided to get the 3rd shot (booster) in the initial days they would do so again for the 4th shot (booster).

The CDC direction is pretty specific. There does not seem to be much discussion regarding getting the 4th shot.


Using the same criteria we we did for shot number 3 we will be scheduling our 4th shot.

Velvet 02-21-2022 01:33 PM

The vaccine seems to wane starting 3rd or 4th month out. So it makes sense to get another if we only consider that. I can’t believe that her doctors did not protect the Queen enough to prevent her from getting Covid, at 96 she could be very vulnerable.

drducat 02-21-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2064290)
The vaccine seems to wane starting 3rd or 4th month out. So it makes sense to get another if we only consider that. I can’t believe that her doctors did not protect the Queen enough to prevent her from getting Covid, at 96 she could be very vulnerable.

They did all they could given that the shots don't work against getting covid at all.....

Two Bills 02-21-2022 04:34 PM

In UK an additional booster dose ( 4th. vaccination ) will be offered to all adults over-75 and the most vulnerable over-12s in the UK this spring.

All Covid restrictions will end in England on Thursday (24th Feb.) and free mass testing will stop from 1 April.

Que será, será!

JMintzer 02-21-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2064290)
The vaccine seems to wane starting 3rd or 4th month out. So it makes sense to get another if we only consider that. I can’t believe that her doctors did not protect the Queen enough to prevent her from getting Covid, at 96 she could be very vulnerable.

What could her doctors have done? This?

https://c.tenor.com/uDyb-e9cgjMAAAAM...bubble-boy.gif

Velvet 02-21-2022 06:51 PM

The doctors and her staff did not bring her probability of exposure down enough. She had official duties a week before meeting inside with people with no one wearing masks! Yes, I would have put her in the biggest bubble you ever saw. The virus is only a particle and the probabilities of exposure, are possible to control.

JMintzer 02-21-2022 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2064371)
The doctors and her staff did not bring her probability of exposure down enough. She had official duties a week before meeting inside with people with no one wearing masks! Yes, I would have put her in the biggest bubble you ever saw. The virus is only a particle and the probabilities of exposure, are possible to control.

Here staff? Probably. Her doctors don't dictate what the Queen does...

agjaret@aol.com 02-22-2022 07:39 AM

CDC needs to release data.

toeser 02-22-2022 08:14 AM

I have had three shots, I'm over 75, and I'm done. The virus seems to be weaker now, and I have read far too much about the potential side effects of getting these vaccines over and over and over.

Everyone must make their own decision, and I've made mine.

Spalumbos62 02-22-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2064400)
Here staff? Probably. Her doctors don't dictate what the Queen does...

What about her airhead son? He just got over it and was with her. But she's a strong woman, even at her age she'll probably be fine, she's had all her shots.

OhioBuckeye 02-22-2022 08:51 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2064145)
I would think if one decided to get the 3rd shot (booster) in the initial days they would do so again for the 4th shot (booster).

The CDC direction is pretty specific. There does not seem to be much discussion regarding getting the 4th shot.


Using the same criteria we we did for shot number 3 we will be scheduling our 4th shot.

I honestly thought when we got our 2nd shots that would be the end of it. I got the 3rd shot.(booster) Now they’re talking about we will need a 4th shot. Is this going to be an ongoing thing. Will it come to a 5th shot then on & on. It just seems to me that they are guessing. I personally don’t like all of this serum pumped into our bodies. To me it’s the ones that’s never had the 1st shot. What’s your opinion about this?

frank1975 02-22-2022 08:54 AM

Totally agree 100%

billethkid 02-22-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by frank1975 (Post 2064507)
I've stopped at one booster shot. But you go right ahead and got all the booster shots you want. JUST DON'T START TELLING PEOPLE THEY NEED A 4TH SHOT. WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF!!!!

NOBODY, said anything about "NEED" or worry!!!

DonnaNi4os 02-22-2022 08:56 AM

I have autoimmune disease am I’m planning on getting my 4th. It is almost 6 months since my third. Good luck in whatever you decide

MDLNB 02-22-2022 09:53 AM

I don't encourage OR discourage anyone from getting vaccinations. I only do what I think is right for me. I originally got the shots to protect my spouse. Since she did not get the booster, I did not either. We both caught the dreaded Covid, and she fared better than I. Of course, she is on all kinds of medication, and I take none. Even though I got it worst, it only amounted to symptoms equal to a mild cold. I treated it as a cold, with over the counter cold meds. I am not suggesting that anyone do the same. I am only discussing my part in this. Will I get the booster? Well, from what I have read and heard, those that have survived the infection have three times the protection of those that have the vaccination. You have even more if you have both the shots and the survival of the infection. I am not an expert, and do not pretend to know what the medical experts know, just rationalizing according to my sense on the matter. At this time, I will not get the booster. Sure, I am taking a chance or gamble that IF I become infected with the virus again, that I will be able to survive it just as easily as before. Maybe I won't and that will be on me. Three of my children have had the virus before there was a vaccination available to them. Their spouses and their children have also survived the virus. I think it would be much easier to accept the free vaccination IF we knew without a doubt that we would be protected from becoming infected. Not that I agree with some folks reasoning, but I think they reason that it is better to catch a very high survival rate illness, than to get what they believe is a fairly new serum that will not protect them from catching the virus, and are concerned of any long term side effects that may be detrimental to their health later in life. Seniors should not have to be concerned with "long term effects" considering they would probably not live long enough for those hypothetical effects to actually effect them.
No, in all likelihood, I probably won't get the first or second booster UNLESS I fear the possibility of the virus coming back stronger than before. What others do is entirely up to them. I see no benefit in discussing a third or fourth or even a fifth booster. If the OP is looking for validation, he/she will only get opinions from this forum.

billethkid 02-22-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2064554)
I don't encourage OR discourage anyone from getting vaccinations. I only do what I think is right for me. I originally got the shots to protect my spouse. Since she did not get the booster, I did not either. We both caught the dreaded Covid, and she fared better than I. Of course, she is on all kinds of medication, and I take none. Even though I got it worst, it only amounted to symptoms equal to a mild cold. I treated it as a cold, with over the counter cold meds. I am not suggesting that anyone do the same. I am only discussing my part in this. Will I get the booster? Well, from what I have read and heard, those that have survived the infection have three times the protection of those that have the vaccination. You have even more if you have both the shots and the survival of the infection. I am not an expert, and do not pretend to know what the medical experts know, just rationalizing according to my sense on the matter. At this time, I will not get the booster. Sure, I am taking a chance or gamble that IF I become infected with the virus again, that I will be able to survive it just as easily as before. Maybe I won't and that will be on me. Three of my children have had the virus before there was a vaccination available to them. Their spouses and their children have also survived the virus. I think it would be much easier to accept the free vaccination IF we knew without a doubt that we would be protected from becoming infected. Not that I agree with some folks reasoning, but I think they reason that it is better to catch a very high survival rate illness, than to get what they believe is a fairly new serum that will not protect them from catching the virus, and are concerned of any long term side effects that may be detrimental to their health later in life. Seniors should not have to be concerned with "long term effects" considering they would probably not live long enough for those hypothetical effects to actually effect them.
No, in all likelihood, I probably won't get the first or second booster UNLESS I fear the possibility of the virus coming back stronger than before. What others do is entirely up to them. I see no benefit in discussing a third or fourth or even a fifth booster. If the OP is looking for validation, he/she will only get opinions from this forum.

If I was looking for validation I would have stated it.
From my post:
There does not seem to be much discussion regarding getting the 4th shot.

Cheiro 02-22-2022 10:09 AM

4th Covid Shot
 
Will be getting the 4th shot as soon as it is available. Have avoided the disease so far and want to continue the process.

gdennis317 02-22-2022 10:18 AM

Next Booster recommendation likely for early Fall. For those of us with other issues which can cause complications probably a good idea. Have had three full doses myself, have not grown horns or a third eye😉

Good chance most everyone has had some exposure to Covid already, but like colds and the Flu new variations can lead to new infection.

Likely that yearly booster will be like a yearly flu shot. No big deal.

Pat La Rosa 02-22-2022 10:34 AM

I am 92 years old and do not plan on getting any more shots. I think this is all for the benefit of the drug companies bottom line. I really think if they did not mandate that you get the shots or else??????? the American people would decide for themselves if they want them or not. Most people are intelligent enough to make up their own minds. We don't need this stupid government to tell us what to take and what to not take. This country is beginning to feel like a dictatorship. What happened to this great country having a bunch of idiots telling all us smart people what we should and shouldn't do.

Bogie Shooter 02-22-2022 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat La Rosa (Post 2064571)
I am 92 years old and do not plan on getting any more shots. I think this is all for the benefit of the drug companies bottom line. I really think if they did not mandate that you get the shots or else??????? the American people would decide for themselves if they want them or not. Most people are intelligent enough to make up their own minds. We don't need this stupid government to tell us what to take and what to not take. This country is beginning to feel like a dictatorship. What happened to this great country having a bunch of idiots telling all us smart people what we should and shouldn't do.

Whole lot to unpack from this post.
Out of respect to your 92 years…….I will pass on any comments.

Decadeofdave 02-22-2022 10:50 AM

It is between you and your physician. My family member had a lung transplant 2 years ago and the anti rejection drugs they are on reduce vax efficacy. Doc said get 2nd booster.

asianthree 02-22-2022 11:03 AM

After a severe reaction to half dose of first vaccine, all of my physicians are holding a strong No on any other chance of going forward with any vaccine. Never tested positive, for the last 2 plus years, still working in healthcare. Just lucky, or so immune to 40 plus years of being exposed to known, and unknown issues.

The rest of our family in healthcare have had 1or 2 doses of vaccine, but not the booster.

It’s a personal choice, between you and your healthcare provider

SBaller 02-22-2022 01:05 PM

Got the 4th shot from my doctor just this week. He said it just got approval if it has been at least 5 months since first booster. Funny we are not hearing too much about it.

MDLNB 02-22-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gdennis317 (Post 2064562)
Next Booster recommendation likely for early Fall. For those of us with other issues which can cause complications probably a good idea. Have had three full doses myself, have not grown horns or a third eye������

Good chance most everyone has had some exposure to Covid already, but like colds and the Flu new variations can lead to new infection.

Likely that yearly booster will be like a yearly flu shot. No big deal.


Unfortunately, this has NOT been a "yearly" booster. I wonder how many folks will get the booster IF you will need two or three per year to keep them current. I am NOT an anti-vaxxer, but I am not sure if I have any more protection with the vaccination than if I didn't have it. Especially, now that I have already had the virus and had my shots. "They" tell me that a couple of drinks a day won't hurt me, but they don't tell me how a couple of drinks will help me, either. Lots of arguments pro and con. Some keep saying that having the shots protect you from having to be hospitalized. Great, I get it. However, it is guesstimated that over 100 million Americans have been infected by the virus, but just haven't been hospitalized or documented.

This is not an argument, but just for sake of discussion. I don't disagree with anyone's thoughts above. Just throwing some thoughts out there.

G.R.I.T.S. 02-22-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 2064490)
I have had three shots, I'm over 75, and I'm done. The virus seems to be weaker now, and I have read far too much about the potential side effects of getting these vaccines over and over and over.

Everyone must make their own decision, and I've made mine.

I’m with you!

Jack58033 02-22-2022 02:03 PM

Fourth shot. Where?

toeser 02-22-2022 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack58033 (Post 2064650)
Fourth shot. Where?

In the arm as usual.

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2064290)
The vaccine seems to wane starting 3rd or 4th month out. So it makes sense to get another if we only consider that. I can’t believe that her doctors did not protect the Queen enough to prevent her from getting Covid, at 96 she could be very vulnerable.

There seems to be some NEW data about CV and shots that suggest that 3 shots and even just 2 shots may build up resistance in the body enough for LONGER than originally thought. The science changes so I would suggest checking this out because I have heard only one report about this.

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drducat (Post 2064302)
They did all they could given that the shots don't work against getting covid at all.....

Untrue!

MDLNB 02-22-2022 04:39 PM

Glass half full-------------::
New omicron infections in the U.S. have plummeted 90% from a pandemic high in a little over a month.
The U.S. is reporting about 84,000 new cases per day on average, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, down from a pandemic high of more than 800,000 daily cases on Jan. 15

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2064371)
The doctors and her staff did not bring her probability of exposure down enough. She had official duties a week before meeting inside with people with no one wearing masks! Yes, I would have put her in the biggest bubble you ever saw. The virus is only a particle and the probabilities of exposure, are possible to control.

Agreed.

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank1975 (Post 2064507)
I've stopped at one booster shot. But you go right ahead and got all the booster shots you want. JUST DON'T START TELLING PEOPLE THEY NEED A 4TH SHOT. WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF!!!!

This is a forum where TV Land people can learn from others' opinions and express their own opinions. People can say that other people should ONLY worry about themselves, but that would hinder the development of empathy, hinder free speech, and DISCOURAGE others from freely expressing their opinions.
.......Then there is another problem created by that - an airborne disease that intensifies and mutates among the people that decide for themselves when "enough is enough" without the best expert advice - will put not only themselves in danger, but also all their own family around them and ultimately all of US society. Humans are an interdependent species. Public health principles and institutions have been criticized like never before in recent US History.
......Basically, this situation like so many others is NOT over til it's over!

Koapaka 02-22-2022 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheiro (Post 2064559)
Will be getting the 4th shot as soon as it is available. Have avoided the disease so far and want to continue the process.

We have had exactly ZERO shots and avoided it as well...what makes you think anything you have had (so far) is the reason you have not been infected?????

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2064509)
I honestly thought when we got our 2nd shots that would be the end of it. I got the 3rd shot.(booster) Now they’re talking about we will need a 4th shot. Is this going to be an ongoing thing. Will it come to a 5th shot then on & on. It just seems to me that they are guessing. I personally don’t like all of this serum pumped into our bodies. To me it’s the ones that’s never had the 1st shot. What’s your opinion about this?

Those that never got the 1st shot ARE a big problem. Also, digging in ones' heels and stubbornly disregarding additional expert medical advice is also a problem. I will get as many shots as often as needed and recommended by the majority of the expert medical advice. And for as long as I think that I am NOT as smart as hundreds of Medical Doctors.

Koapaka 02-22-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2064580)
After a severe reaction to half dose of first vaccine, all of my physicians are holding a strong No on any other chance of going forward with any vaccine. Never tested positive, for the last 2 plus years, still working in healthcare. Just lucky, or so immune to 40 plus years of being exposed to known, and unknown issues.

The rest of our family in healthcare have had 1or 2 doses of vaccine, but not the booster.

It’s a personal choice, between you and your healthcare provider

Can not help myself feeling all those items we were exposed to back in our working days were not the reason we have fared so well ourselves. Something to be said for this amazing gift of "immunity" the good Lord gave those of us that have exposed ourselves to everything over the years in service to others!

Starfire 02-22-2022 05:39 PM

Guess who is paying for all these Vaccine Shots? I can tell you it is not the drug companies. If I was a suspicious person, I might think that the drug companies (and their crony politicians) are intentionally extending the whole thing just to line the drug company pockets. But they would not do that, right?

Garywt 02-22-2022 07:12 PM

I had not heard about a 4th shot but if my oncologist calls to tell me to come in, I will.

donfey 02-22-2022 07:46 PM

Cdc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2064145)
I would think if one decided to get the 3rd shot (booster) in the initial days they would do so again for the 4th shot (booster).

The CDC direction is pretty specific. There does not seem to be much discussion regarding getting the 4th shot.


Using the same criteria we we did for shot number 3 we will be scheduling our 4th shot.

Given past "performance," we have ZERO confidence in the CDC.

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2064733)
We have had exactly ZERO shots and avoided it as well...what makes you think anything you have had (so far) is the reason you have not been infected?????

Someone with Zero shots and zero tests could be blissfully wandering around society and be asymptomatic. Thus acting like a "typhoid Mary"!

jimjamuser 02-22-2022 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koapaka (Post 2064736)
Can not help myself feeling all those items we were exposed to back in our working days were not the reason we have fared so well ourselves. Something to be said for this amazing gift of "immunity" the good Lord gave those of us that have exposed ourselves to everything over the years in service to others!

That could (?) be true.....or just plain luck. It might be possible to compare hospital and medical workers to non-hospital and non-medical workers. But, that would likely be a hard study to set up. The results would be interesting though.


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