Do you Own a Gas Guzzler?
 

Ever wish you own a vehicle that got better gas mileage for long trips
that gas prices are at historical high?

Is this a bad time to trade?
Is electric the answer?

Thank goodness for golfcarts in TV.

Why ask obvious questions. I do not own a gas guzzler. For people who do, it was a gas guzzler when you chose to buy it. As far as trading it in, I expect its value has taken a dive.

Carbon foot print etc I do not have an odometer on our golf cart. An honest guess it gets like 30 miles per gallon. My car, again honest does around town like 28 miles per gallon and while I have no way to test it, I expect the exhaust is cleaner.

The answer, the question to ask IS THIS TRIP NECESSARY.

Actually some of the drivers around here make me wish I owned a Sherman tank so going to start looking for a gently used one.

Do you Own a Gas Guzzler?

Yep!
24.7 average MPG.
Love it, and not changing!:)

No, yes, no.

Even a gas guzzler should get about 20 MPG on the open road. So, a 5,000 mile trip will cost about $1,000 for gas, (5,000/20 × $4/gallon). Not worth considering buying a new vehicle. I don't think electric vehicles make any sense at all, especially for long trips.

I like big cars and really don't worry about the price of gas as I don't drive much. However, I like to eat and the price of beef does shock me at times and I assume that will keep going up due to the cost to transport it.

Same with us.
I own a 2015 Toyota Highlander and gets around 24 mpg.
It's a little large for 2 people but it's safer then a compact.
I put on about 3,000 a year.

Long trips are an issue but the unnecessary trips for some in stop and go traffic. I’ve been shopping for a vehicle just looking. Many high performance vechicle actually looked at a jeep 470hp 4x4 14mpg starting price $78,000 showroom price $86,000 do I really need it no then I looked at a Toyota Camry hybrid 52mmg city 53 highway around $32,000 plus $3000 dealer markup. Instead I’m waiting for a Ford F-150 lightning 300 miles per charge tentative delivery May $52,000.

24.7 is not a gas guzzler.

My understanding is golf carts get about 50 miles per gallon but have never checked that myself.

So my daily driver for the past 8 years is a Ford F-350 with a 6.2 liter gas engine. Gas guzzler, I get about 12 mpg. I don’t drive it everyday anymore but drive it often. I love the truck, longest I have owned a vehicle and no plans to get rid of it. Even if I wanted to, the dealers do not have anything on their lots to buy. The other day, the pump shut off at $100 and almost gave me a full tank. It is not the first time we have seen prices like these. I believe it was twice before.

When we moved here we drive a 2011 Toyota Yaris. It got about 40 mph on the highway doing around 80 mph. Around town better.

For various reasons, it is gone and we now have a Lexus 350 (2012) and a Jaguar XF (475HP 2011). They get 28 mpg on the highway and 24 mph on the highway respectively. I am amazed the Jag gets 24 mpg, especially the way I drive it - it is "peppy" and hard too resist sometimes.

We are trying to hold off for now, but are planning on a Tesla when we reach the point one of us can't/shouldn't drive - probably in the next 5 years or so. It's pretty close to point to point hands on the wheel at this point. That would reduce the stress of driving a lot.

A long trip for us is up to Gainesville to the VA hospital at least one or twice a week. If we need to go further we will typically fly. A Tesla would allow us to drive further, but relaxing while it drives from one super charger to the next. We are certainly not in the hurry that others here seem to be wanting to drive 1,000 miles in a day.

If you are actually looking for suggestions, I think the Yaris (around 2011) in excellent condition for around $3k or a Lexus 350 (around 2012) in excellent condition for around $5k are both good choices, extremely reliable with little to no maintenance costs. We find it hard to understand the need to own a new expensive car. To me the requirement is something reliable, comfortable and low cost to simply get me from point to point makes more sense.

(BTW: If you want to have FUN - a 2011 Jaguar XF in excellent condition is around $7K, it is really luxurious, and fun to drive - but, its is expensive to maintain, a pair of fuel pumps is around $2k - so if you look into it, be sure to let a mechanic look it over.)

Yup, not the first time. I think, back in 2008 I recall predictions of $4/gal causing a recession came true. In adjusted dollars, I expect $5/gal or so would be about the same, and consider the beating our economy has take for the past couple years, I expect we are in for some "exciting" times. They happen periodically, and they normally correct themselves. The Fed can help or hinder the recovery - but only a small amount. It mainly takes time.

Mostly I drive my BMW X5 50i which uses premium gas and reputedly gets 15 mpg in city driving and 21 mpg on the highway. I have always driven a V8 powered vehicle and never cared much about miles per gallon. My last main driver, a Porsche Cayenne S got about 12 mpg and ran on premium.

It never used to be a gas guzzler. But with gas now over $4 a gallon, it has become a money guzzler!!

Why yes. I'm considering getting rid of our world's smallest four seat car and replacing it with this. It hits every trendy and correct button. It's earth friendly, carbon neutral, and it uses renewable energy.

Or I might just wait to see the election results in 2024 and then make my decision.

Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
 

The above headlined vehicle works perfectly for us. Full battery charge in about 12 hours in my garage over night. About a 30 mile range on battery, which is plenty if we stay around our "bubble". Also, plenty of room in this vehicle, with about 25 mpg city and 33 highway, using the internal combustion engine. Love it!

i'm in. The worst is the circle kamikaze who is willing to t bone you to prove a point.
If you look intently you can see the road rage in their faces.

I was wondering if this hike in gas would create a surge for electric vehicles. I guess from your question, it might! Personally I still use gas, but I would love a hybrid since I do long drives and have no patience for charging timeouts.

We bought a Lexus UXH last year, getting 45 MGP. Very happy about that.

Golf Cart 40 MPG
 

I always check my golf cart mileage, with a 5.2 gallon tank I can go 200 miles. I’m getting about 40 mpg in my 2014 Yamaha.

Good choice, but I'll go you one better...

How about a transportation device that skips the fuel-refinement process entirely and is able to convert biomass directly to energy, is self-repairing, commits certain routes to memory so getting lost is rarely a problem if you stick close to home, and whose emissions have the unique benefit of replenishing, rather than depleting, the environment?

The Lone Ranger had one. I think he called it "Silver".

Sounds about right. Our Yamaha (2013) is in that range.

But how much energy is wasted, not because of the vehicle but because of the operator? How many times have we seen cars speed up when nearing a line of cars stopped at a red light, then hit the brakes for a rapid slowdown so as not to rear-end the car in the back of the line? I see it all the time. It takes more energy to set an object in motion than it does to keep it in motion, and depending on the mass (and thus the inertia) of the object in question, a LOT more energy. So you burn gas to increase speed, only to burn your brake linings to get rid of it. Not such a big deal in a golf cart, but if you're herding some behemoth down 466, it can be a very big deal and can add a lot to the total the next time you gas that behemoth up.

Some people don't think.

I concur with the topic poster. If there is anyone who has a vehicle with an Oldsmobile 455 big block, a Chevy 427 big block, or a Ford 429 Super Cobra Jet engine, I'm ready and willing to assist you with getting rid of this vehicle.

If people are really interested in the price of gas; they should step back and think what they really need. I watch people leaving Home Depot with lumber sticking out the windows of their sedans and a see people pulling up to Publix in their monster trucks for a container of milk. Weather it's electric or not we have to get away from the control of other countries. I'm from N.Y. and in 1979 you could only get gas every other day, because of a crisis in Iran. When will we wake up?

When I lived in Chicago way back when, there was a company, Green Brothers, who sold used trucks and I remember they also sold army surplus half tracks. Better gas mileage on the half track then the tank, I think.

All part of the plan folks. When gas is over $5 then elec cars make sense. However we must spend multi billions to install charging stations paid by taxpayers. The electricity mostly comes from coal fired plants, so not so green.

If we subsidized oil drilling in the US my guess is that gas would soon be $1 and we could thumb our nose at Iran Russia Saudi Venez.

I have a 2020 Honda Accord with a 1.5 liter turbo charged engine. It gets 45 mpg on trips up North.

The cost of electric cars too high. Hybrid are good, no charging! Gas, easy. Poor truck drivers, which the cost for everything will be passed on us.

Tesla is the Way to Go
 

I've owned a Tesla Model Y for two years now and I can't say enough good things about it. It averages 131 mpg and that was when gas was cheap, We've taken countless trips to Virginia and North Carolina without a hitch. I don't even like cars but I love my Tesla. We just plug it into our 110 plug in our garage and and it's like having a full tank of gas every morning. It is so fun to drive! If anyone has any questions feel free to message me.

Gas
 

LOL you don't know what a gas guzzler is. Full size older suv 4x4. 13.5 mpg. Lucky it's not our primary veh. I love it and have no intention of getting rid of it

I am confused, completely utterly confused. Are you saying that we don't subsidize oil exploration and extraction? Are you saying that coal is the source of most of the electricity in this country? Can you perhaps provide me with links as to how much electricity is coal generated, and how little the US taxpayer has given the gas and oil industry in the last few years? That will help my confusion. I'll check back.

Ohiobuckeye
 

I presently live in Texas & yes we do see lots of pick up trucks. Usually when the U.S. has a gas issue trucks are usually the first thing to not sell. We went through this once before. If we want to live like we did we have to make some changes! It’s getting to be a scary world & the U.S. hasn’t went through this since the depression. Lucky for most of us, most of us weren’t born in 1928. We live in America & we’ll pull out of this!

Not directed to me, but...

Fully 60% of electricity in America is generated with fossil fuels. Of this amount 38.3% is from natural gas, 21.8% comes from coal. Nuclear comes in at 18.9%. 20% is generated with "renewables", including wind (9.2%), Hydroelectric (6.3%), Photovoltaic (2.8%) and Solar (2.8%). The rest (each under 1%) comes from various sources such as landfill gas, wood, etc. (U.S. Energy Information Administration website, tools - FAQ)

6 year old Prius - 55 mpg around town, 60-65 mpg on highway. Not for sale.

Just be thankful you can still buy gas at any price. Lots of problems to solve before electric vehicles will be majority on roads, especially cross country travel.

Used to own a Dodge Durango, 4x 4, V6 & loved it, BUT got 12mpg & maybe 15 on highway. Been driving Toyotas since then.

Oil and gas subsidized to keep the gold mine going. Federal government and state government make more on gallon gas than oil companies producing it.

Yes, we got lot needy and demanding more since then.

Yes, F250 diesel truck for pulling trailers
32 gallon tank, $5 per gallon = $160 complete fillip
20-22 mpg on a highway trip at 65-69 mph.

Yes, very bad time to trade. . not for type of fuel, but for availability of replacement cars

Is electric the answer? yes, but only if you are driving around TV, and don't mind paying a higher electric bill.

A friend of a friend has an electric car, he couldn't care less about gas prices, but he is oblivious to the increase in the monthly electric bill of $120+. There is no free lunch.

be careful for what you think the quick and easy solution is. .