Pit bull attacks pooch in Historic Side of Villages.
 

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I saw the news on the other Villages news site. Sad. Dog dies after vicious attack by pit bull on Historic Side of The Villages





















Last year, my pooch had been bitten by a pit bull looking dog at the dog park on his paw but thankfully the dog had not closed its jaws. And the owner was right there to get the dog off of Beau.

I have encountered many very gentle pit bull or pit bull mixes here in the Villages though.

It is often an owner that does not seem to know how to control the dog or does not even seem to know the dog's history.

When we lived in Palm Harbor we lived next door to a man who was training pit bulls but mishandled it so badly he brought down the Humane Society as well as the news media down on him and probably the police as well. The dogs seemed very nice though. It was the owner/trainer that was the problem.

when you say , pitbull it doesn't end well.its the few that we hear about.

There was a sweet pit bull named Jade at the dog park years ago but after it started playing regularly with the boxer like pooch named Harlow at the dog park it seemed to get more and more aggressive.

Eventually the dog park owners banned both dogs. And I would before that just avoid the area of the park the dogs' owners were.

My heart goes out to the poor folks who lost their dog in such a terribly way.

My brother had a pit bull. It was the sweetest, most even-tempered dog ever.

Right up to the time it attacked his daughter.

You can't blame the dog. A pit bull is what it is. And what it is, is a dog bred to be aggressive; bull-baiting and dog fighting primarily, with a powerful bite strength of 235 psi. But when they bite they don't just bite. They tear. They hang on and rip. That is why a pit bull attack can be the most damaging of any dog, even dogs twice it's size.

Statistics bear out the danger of this breed. In the time-period 2005 - 2017, dog attacks killed 433 Americans. 284 of these deaths were by pit bulls. Rottweilers came in at #2, responsible for 10.4% of the deaths. That is two-thirds of all deaths from dog attacks in America--by a breed that numbers-wise makes up barely 6% of the canine population in this country (International Dog Day 2020 website). Pit bulls lead heavily in the number of reported attacks as well, with 3,397 attacks in the time-period compared to 535 by rottweilers.

Not all pit bulls are dangerous. But far too many times, a trusted family pet turns killer, with the most unsettling statistic being that fully 25% of pit bull fatalities are of children 0-2. My niece was lucky: her father was in the house at the time, interrupted the attack and the pit bull met it's maker a few minutes later courtesy of a .357 magnum bullet to the head. But not all children are so lucky.

Many countries ban pit bulls totally. In America a lot of home insurers won't insure your home if you own a pit bull.

Maybe it's time we looked at banning them too.

I saw the news on the other Villages news site.Dog dies after vicious attack by pit bull on Historic Side of The Villages

Can you post a link please?

Pit Bulls top the statistical lists as the #1 killer of people every year. But trying to get people to believe this fact is like trying to convince anti-vaxers to get a shot. They will always say things like, "They always misidentify the breed", "There are no bad Pit Bulls- only bad owners". "I've owned Pit Bulls my whole life and they are gentle". The deeply rooted denial of facts in the face of solid, repeating statistics boggles the mind. Go ahead- do a Google search ("Google is flawed", "The American Kennel Club's statistics are wrong")

Will the pit pull owner face any penalties? I assume at least a civil lawsuit to recover losses.

I agree with you, 100%. That said, I believe Florida has a law that prohibits municipalities from banning a specific breed of dog.

I'm not certain if things have changed in the 6 1/2 years we've been here but when we did purchase our first home in the Historic Section we were told by The Villages Insurance that several breeds of dogs were not allowed to be on our insurance policy. All I cared about was if a Boxer was allowed or not. Turns out it was NOT because it was deemed to be too aggressive.

You could have been breaking into our home when Barney the Boxer was home alone and instead of protecting our home, he would have gotten them something cold to drink from the fridge. Sorta like Alex from Strohs.

I rolled the dice and just left him off the policy. I am not usually a dice roller on such things but he was our boy and what the hell was I going to do with him? So having child molesters in the surrounding area is okay, drunk drivers, no problemo but having a Boxer is a problem? I know you could blow a thousand holes in the way I'm thinking about this but a Boxer being aggressive? Not any that I've ever come across. We loved that damn dog and losing him so early was a heartbreaker. I brought him to the dog park twice and the second time he had a run-in with a beautiful-looking Pit. Nevermore to the dog park. Our boy got a little chipped up but was fine in a few days. The Vet gave him something for the bite or scratch he got. I paid for it all and just let it go.

That being said. If he was killed by that Pit I'd probably be living at Coleman in an Orange Colored uniform.

Bastards, control your animal. Keep them on a leash and whoever called someone in another thread I read yesterday a M....F I hope karma catches up with you quickly.

I rest my case!

If you saw it on the other site, why do you need a link?
Links to that site aren't allowed here.

I cannot find it on the other site. I also did not know you could not post a link from the other site.

It is called The Villages News or something like that.

It happened Monday afternoon. Dog named Casper.

Sometimes I think one should need a a special license to own one of these powerful dogs. Very sorry to hear what happened to the little pooch, but historically the pits were bred for dog aggression and they need specific training and handling to socialize.

You said what is usually left unsaid ! I am sure there are many many "sweet" pit bulls and others, mastiff perhaps ? But you said it all, they are what they are, not the best breed for domestic pets, but many will disagree and never have a problem. But I reminds me of the tragic Siegfried & Roy horror... after all those years of domestic breeding of their own line, their pets living exactly like human children in their home, and then...... as you said... and THEN..... nature.

You said what is usually left unsaid ! I am sure there are many many "sweet" pit bulls and others, mastiff perhaps ? But you said it all, they are what they are, not the best breed for domestic pets, but many will disagree and never have a problem. It reminds me of the tragic Siegfried & Roy horror... after all those years of domestic breeding of their own line of while tigers, their pets living exactly like human children in their home, and then...... as you said... and THEN..... nature.

I had a cousin who always had a Boxer dog/s around her all her life.
Not one was aggressive or snappy.
Slobber you to death though!
They always reminded me of the kid who made the class laugh. A bit thick, but had their smarts.
She always called them her 'loyal clowns!'

If your Dog attacks my Dog and we’re 100% in the Right, Your dog “will” be put down on the spot……. It is what it is, Izz! I’m the sole protector of My Dogs!

So apparently you're not aware of statistics anti vaxxers are doing better than those who are, current Kaiser foundation study so your point is moot..

Just google villages pit bull kills dog. Interestingly, they were both “daughters” of villagers. One daughter was walking her and her parents dogs and the pit bull belonged to a different daughter and it seems like the “villager”, not the daughter was walking the pit bull and it broke free from him/her. So likely, the villager wasn’t prepared for what to do next since it wasn’t their dog. But I agree that some of the nicest dogs I’ve ever met were pit bulls and I’ve only encountered one time that a mean dog bit me and it was a cocker spaniel. Go figure.

This is one of the worst pit bull attacks I ever read about.

2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them

They killed both kids even though though the dogs were pets for 8 years.

So if you are attacked, what are some of the best ways to survive a dog mauling?

Breeding of pit bulls needs to be outlawed. Sterilization of existing pit bulls mandated, registration of pit bull ownership legislated and owners with unregistered pit bull heavily fined with confiscation of the pit bull. Bottom line would be to phase out the breed over time while allowing current owners to keep their dogs. Oh yeah, somehow would need to clearly define “pit bull” as a breed. (American Staffordshire terrier is usually referred to as a pit bull). By the way the AmStat is a beautiful dog and folks I’ve known who owned them called them gentle and friendly. One told me his vet said the issue is with the skull over compressing the brain as the dog grows. Sounded strange to me and I doubt that is what causes the aggression

So apparently you're not aware of statistics anti vaxxers are doing better than those who are, current Kaiser foundation study so your point is moot..


Calling false on that statement! Another cherry picked statistic. Go to Kaiser’s site and see what they say about getting vaccinated.

Why do people get these dogs

Smh
 

But trying to get people to believe this fact is like trying to convince anti-vaxers to get a shot. They will always say things like, "They always misidentify the breed", "There are no bad Pit Bulls- only bad owners". "I've owned Pit Bulls my whole life……

Omg still peddling this misinformation…..

Good question, I’d like to know as well. Bragging rights that they own the meanest breed?

In most places it is to guard illegal drugs.

My first intro to a pit bull was a neighbor friend who had a white one as a pet several years ago before they got into the news. He said check this out and had the pit bull bite onto a flip flop, then he held up the flip flop to about his waist area and spun around 5 times with the dog holding on, emphasizing the grip the dog had.

Many years later I met a couple of really sweet ones. A white one named Missy that was given to a relative and they later had to give it away because that breed wasn't allowed in their building. And a giant brown one that the owner brought to work. Scary big but super sweet. It would come over and greet everyone and I would pet it and talk gently to it. It loved turkey bacon so I quickly made friends after giving him a small piece. 5 years ago I had an aggressive one lunge at me on a leash outside at my complex. Thankfully the owner held it back and said no to it.

But the thing is with pits is that it doesn't take just training it to attack and be aggressive to get it that way, but simply aggressive playing that you may traditionally do with other dogs brings that out in them. Should never play tug of war or be pushing away their face or any aggressive game. You can with some other breeds and they're okay with it, but not pits. It teaches them to play rough, which they may one day do to another. Owner may say "my pit is the sweetest" but how do they play with it?

As for why they choose to get that dog, most will say for protection. But one day they may need protection from them.

I trust no Pit-Bulls. Mixed or not mixed. The problem is.... one does not know how mixed they may be, do they have the gene to kill somewhere in their DNA? When folks find out it is too late. I sure would not want my child, grandchild, neighbor's pet or anyone to be attacked by a pt bull. I had a neighbor, his sister that was killed by her two "sweet-loving" pit bulls. We probably all know a story of some kind about Pits and their temperament. At the end of the day... they are animals. In most instances, they are smarter that their owners. Just saying...

Good question. Protection? Prestige?

Overcompensating for deficiencies in other--areas--perhaps?

Back in the day our quiet little town gradually became a destination for the drug trade. This wasn't helped by the fact that the town, unbeknownst to the residents, was being used as a dumping ground for the Witness Protection Program. Along with this there was a gradual influx of dogs known to be dangerous: pit bulls and akitas mainly, owned by folks who had a "business" to run and who felt the need to protect their trade with such a dog. There was a leash law in town but not always followed; there had been a gradual rise in sightings of pit bulls and akitas roaming off-leash. Not common, but enough to convince me to carry a pistol whenever I went walking in one of the numerous and beautiful parks our city sported.

Part of my job at the time was investigating allegations of child abuse and neglect. Usually we took a uniformed officer along but that wasn't always possible. Suffice it to say there were instances when we were NOT welcome on the premises. We were taught to regard a homeowner or (more often) renter holding a pit bull or akita on a leash exactly as if we had a loaded gun pointed at us, and to vacate the premises as quickly as possible.

These dogs have a well-earned reputation, and an increase in illicit activities in any community only increases their presence.

Statistically, if a dog kills you it is a Pit. Pit apologists say, "It's how they were raised" that's not so, all breeds have bad owners. Most Pits live their whole life not killing anyone, but not all. To me, its a bit like playing Russian Roulette. Five empty chambers...... do you want to have a dog that probably won't kill someone... but might.

Pit bull attack
 

That pitbull and it’s owner passed my house a number of times in the past few months. It nearly attacked my dog and shouldn’t be allowed in the area. I love dogs. I’ve always had them, but when they turn vicious, they’re frightening. I don’t want to see harm come to that animal, but I do think it belongs in a sheltered area.

My yorkie was attached by a pit. He pulled the dog from my arms,. The resulting trauma cost about $2000 in vet bills. Penalty to the pit owner, $50 for not having the dog licensed. Cops did nothing and could not care less. I ordinarily, do not like to see compulsive action, but pitties are a danger to everyone. The numbers do not lie.

"People say that Tiger went crazy...

No, that Tiger went TIGER!"


- Chris Rock

You just HAD to go there... :rolleyes:

Aaaad we're off!

So, SOME Pit Bulls are okay, but others have to be eliminated?

Most places?

The only time I've ever been bitten by a dog was by a sweet little Yorkie...