Marines may ban sir and ma’am
 

After a $2 million report, the Marines are considering a change to prevent misgendering.

Marines may ban 'sir' and 'ma'am' to avoid 'misgendering'

How sad, **** away two million dollars of taxpayers $$ on a report that recommends that? WTF?

Hard to talk about this matter without getting political. It is 100% political.

This thread is now on the clock and ticking down fast

:sad: All you're getting from me is NAME, RANK, SERIAL NUMBER..... and HOW I IDENTIFY TODAY! :lipsrsealed:

the few the proud the ?

The gender identification is so important in English traditionally, in many languages there is a neutral term for gender in most cases, as the genitals of the person is not their most significant attribute. Not political, it has always been neutral in history. Just saying….

According to The Marine Times
“The lengthy report, commissioned by the Corps from the University of Pittsburgh in 2020 and completed in 2022, points out that half of the military services already have done away with gendered identifiers for training staff.
The Army, Navy, and Coast Guard effectively de-emphasize gender in an integrated environment,” the report states. “Instead of saying ‘ma’am’ or ‘sir,’ recruits in these Services refer to their drill instructors using their ranks or roles followed by their last names. Gendered identifiers prime recruits to think about or visually search for a drill instructor’s gender first, before their rank or role.”

cousin "it" would be happy about this.

Why not call everyone "Gender":shrug:

One doesn’t have to. “It” refers to inanimate objects. The English language uses “they” “them” “their” as plural - gender neutral, all we would need is a singular the same way which would be used when sex is not the most important thing. Eg. “The captain is at the door. Let “them” (except the singular form would be used) in.” Obviously, some terms, such as “mother” “father” would stay gender specific but we do have the words, “parent” “sibling” etc so all is not lost. We could just extend the language a bit as Shakespeare did.

Not as confusing as he/she and even they for a single human being.

Disagree. It is 100% idiotic.

Many of these Marines were trapped in a woman's body. Then they were born.

Personally I DETEST all this politically correct crap. What has happened to our great country? So much time and money is spent on all this.

It’s stupid.

We just got a Thank You email from a 17 year old niece. She signed it with the ‘she/her’ after her name. …..

I really had to rein in my thoughts and words here lest, you know. Don’t want to offend…

barfbarfbarfbarfbarfbarfbarfbarfbarf:gc:

Just call everyone " hey you" and save a lot of money .

My therapist has four legs and works for liver treats. Whenever I consult her, she gives me a kiss and asks if we can play some ball or frisbee. Her specialty definitely does not include opinions about gender identity, she will chase the ball regardless of who throws it : )

Well maybe, seems many times truly interesting cultural issues are labeled as "politics", yes, I know the difference and that they can merge, but the cultural morays and cultural anthropology of a people is not purely "politics".

Sometimes I think people too often just assume that people of one political persuasion or another (meaning BELONGING to a political party) MAKES them a supporter or a objector to this or that (masks, shots, boosters, pronouns, immigration, on and on), and of course people's political views can nudge the "culture" (meaning the collective of a people) as it evolves, but in my opinion we "jump" too often to explain them politically, when in reality, gradual cultural change has taken place far before anyone even "invented" political parties.. yet there have always been "political views" (just check them out in the Bible), they just may not have been recognized with the term "political". As for the Marines, latest "news" seems to be that it is highly unlikely the USMC will be changing soon, we'll see. In the meantime, Semper Fi from this Marine family !

I wonder if a lackluster or inept Marine can still be referred to as a gomer?

Your 4-legged therapist has more wisdom in her ball-chomping jaws than some posters have in their entire bodies. I'm glad she taught you the meaning of acceptance.

Remember kids - you don't have to LIKE the idea of something. But ranting and railing against it, when it has zero impact on you - is just - double-plus un-good.

That could be considered a microaggression.

Sorry to those who didn't get the chromosomes you wish you had. Sadly, my genes didn't give me the hair, eyes, build, looks and more I wish I would have preferred. But, thanks to political correctness I and you can all demand that we can make the world treat us as if we are something we are not.

You can dye, color, cut, perm, straighten your hair. You can wear contact lenses in a multitude of colors. You can gain/lose weight, work out to become more muscular. You can have plastic surgery or find someone to dress you differently if you have trouble expressing yourself with clothing correctly, if that's the "look" you want to change.

When you dye your hair blonde, you become - a blonde. When someone tells you "you have beautiful blonde hair" you don't correct them and insist that it's actually a mousy brown. You thank them for appreciating this thing about you that YOU know that you changed. You don't feel obligated to tell THEM that you changed it.

When someone tells you that your blue eyes are exquisite, you don't correct them and tell them they're actually a brownish hazel. You thank them. Because you are under no obligation to tell them that you are intentionally representing yourself as someone with blue eyes, even though you aren't blue-eyed.

All these things about yourself that you can change, because you feel more "at home" in your own body when you make those changes. And hopefully no one makes fun of you, or thinks less of you, or hates you, or fears you, or avoids you, or tells everyone how horrible you are, just because you made a change about your body that gave you a good feeling about yourself.

There are two genders this can be positively determined by genetic tests, this is a fact, facts do not hate ,love or care about politics, pop culture nonsense, one's genetic makeup cannot be changed, a person's sexuality is a profound, pervasive part of us and comes from a very basic component of our being embedded in us at a molecular level.If someone is conflicted , confused about who they are it can certainly be a very bad situation for them and no one should add to their problems, but pretending that this is not a maladjustment, that a person's feeling are paramount to facts is to deny reality , try balancing your checkbook with feelings. Making cosmetic changes to one self do not change the facts just appearance

That's less than a 1 & 1/2 CENTS per working person. WTF are you complaining about!

When I was in the Marines, every officer (male or female) was addressed as "SIR." Personally, I would not wish to be in the service with gender confused members. If a member of our armed forces is that sensitive, perhaps they should work for the U.S.P.S. instead of the USMC or the USN, etc. That's my opinion and if that offends you, that's not my problem so don't attempt to make it mine. IMO, those sensitive folks that are easily offended should stay in their "safe rooms" if they cannot cope with harsh reality.

Just another attempt to placate the underwhelming minority who choose to wake up every day in search of ways to be offended. How lame of an existence is that? I choose not to participate, so they can keep their trophy.

May my Beloved Corps rest in Peace. USMC 1964-73.

Thank you for your service.:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

This is important, but does not go far enough. If we should go to war again (hopefully not), there is a risk of offending the enemy. We need to have protocols set up for how soldiers are to address them as well.

/S

"I disagree."

"X gets the square!"

:duck:

I have no problem with the new system. If I was a female sergeant I would definitely prefer hearing "YES SERGEANT" versus YES MA'AM.

Stanford University absolutely DID NOT BAN the word "American." Their IT department put out a list of imprecise and potentially harmful words or phrases they would like to see avoided. The University has issued a statement saying this list does not represent University policy.
'American' and 'you guys' among words considered harmful by Stanford group

Checking before presenting a statement as fact is always a good idea.

and a leaking faucet is only a drip but see how it adds up on your water bill!

"Checking before presenting a statement as fact is always a good idea."


But, there's nothing like real facts to take away a reason to be outraged at things that don't affect me.

Where's the fun in that? lol

Misinformation. This from Stanford University:

Update on Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative in Stanford’s IT Community | IT Community

#factsmatter

I'm so politically incorrect I can't talk anymore.

Marines
 

The military has gone done the wrong path for quite a while and

is shameful.

The few the proud the confused.
WTF!!!!