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TSO/ISPF 03-13-2023 02:50 PM

disabled parking
 
Please don't sit in a car in the driver's seat waiting for someone in the store
in a disabled parking spot.

You can wait somewhere else and pick them up in front of the store or nearer than that parking spot. Someone with a disabled parking permit who intends to actually get out of the car and go in may have to park further away than they should have to because you are sitting in that spot when you could have waited somewhere near enough to see the store entrance and pick up the person you are waiting for. To me, it's the courteous thing to do.

asianthree 03-13-2023 03:02 PM

I have noticed some with handicap tag, sit in their car for awhile before finally getting out of the car. Might be a motility issue and needs a rest before exiting the car

TSO/ISPF 03-13-2023 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2197470)
I have noticed some with handicap tag, sit in their car for awhile before finally getting out of the car. Might be a motility issue and needs a rest before exiting the car

Not the situation today. I went into the store and came out 10 minutes later. Person was still sitting in the car. I've seen this a few times and it just seems to be inconsiderate to me. I actually suggested the idea and he was able to exit the car pretty quickly to threaten me. In this day and age better to just not say anything.

Velvet 03-13-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197486)
Not the situation today. I went into the store and came out 10 minutes later. Person was still sitting in the car. I've seen this a few times and it just seems to be inconsiderate to me.

This just sounds strange to me. You mean a perfectly able person is sitting in the car while they had sent the HANDICAPPED person shopping?

TSO/ISPF 03-13-2023 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2197487)
This just sounds strange to me. You mean a perfectly able person is sitting in the car while they had sent the HANDICAPPED person shopping?

He did say his wife was handicapped, but he may have been as well. Just didn't have any trouble getting out of the vehicle.

JRcorvette 03-13-2023 05:48 PM

Way too many people have handi cap parking stickers in the Villages!

retiredguy123 03-13-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2197526)
Way too many people have handi cap parking stickers in the Villages!

I agree. And, almost anyone can get a doctor to issue a handicap permit, and there is no enforcement on the issuing of permits.

TSO/ISPF 03-13-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2197526)
Way too many people have handi cap parking stickers in the Villages!

really can't say on that. I knew a guy with 1 arm and an arm that was deformed so he had a partial arm to the elbow, no legs. He got around on a skateboard like nobody would believe. Once went under a police horse while in a crazy mood. He refused to use handicap parking for many years. That's where I get my sensitivity to people "abusing" handicap parking.

fdpaq0580 03-13-2023 06:02 PM

IMHO,the only vehicle that should be in a handicap spot is one driven by a handicapped person. A handicapped person being chauffeured should be let off at the loading zone. The driver can park elsewhere and then be called to pickup the handicapped person at the loading zone.

Djean1981 03-13-2023 06:05 PM

If a spouse wants to wait up close for an ailing loved one, it's fine with me.

Michael G. 03-13-2023 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2197531)
I agree. And, almost anyone can get a doctor to issue a handicap permit, and there is no enforcement on the issuing of permits.

My daughter in law is in a wheelchair and my son has been noticing it's harder and harder to fine help with their luggage when traveling, airport claims there isn't enough staff people.

He was told by the airport people perfectly healthy people are buying wheelchairs when traveling to get through the TSA check at the airports.

retiredguy123 03-13-2023 06:25 PM

Some people may have a legitimate need for handicapped parking. But, it is mostly used by entitled people who just want a reserved parking space wherever they go. And medical doctors cannot be trusted to properly screen for those who really deserve a handicapped parking permit.

Number 10 GI 03-13-2023 07:55 PM

My wife has advanced COPD, severe rheumatoid arthritis that keeps her in pain and mobility issues due to a back injury. She has a disabled placard. Sometimes I drive her to do her shopping and park in a disabled spot and she will walk to the store. She tries to do as much as she can physically and will walk back to the car, where I'm waiting, when she finishes shopping. Some days after walking around in the store her pain level and inability to breathe gets the best of her and she will call me on the phone and ask me to pick her up.
I advise any busy bodies to mind their own business and not approach me with their righteous attitude.

wisbad1 03-13-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197498)
He did say his wife was handicapped, but he may have been as well. Just didn't have any trouble getting out of the vehicle.

Maybe you should mind your own business, sometimes I come back to the car because of breathing issues. My wife continues to shop with out me. Everyone tends to eyeball someone with handicap card. I would be upset if they came and quizzed me.

fdpaq0580 03-13-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2197561)
My wife has advanced COPD, severe rheumatoid arthritis that keeps her in pain and mobility issues due to a back injury. She has a disabled placard. Sometimes I drive her to do her shopping and park in a disabled spot and she will walk to the store. She tries to do as much as she can physically and will walk back to the car, where I'm waiting, when she finishes shopping. Some days after walking around in the store her pain level and inability to breathe gets the best of her and she will call me on the phone and ask me to pick her up.
I advise any busy bodies to mind their own business and not approach me with their righteous attitude.

Just a different point of view, if I may.
You are simply acting as your wife's chauffeur in your scenario. You could drop your wife at the door. It would be closer than handicapped parking. You could wait anywhere in the parking area since you are not accompanying her. You don't need that handicap spot. Let someone who really needs it have it. When your wife is done shopping she can call you and you can pick her up at the door. That way everyone wins.
By the way, your last sentence is threatening In a manner that indicates you recognize that you know you don't need or deserve the handicap spot. You seem also to recognize that it is yourself who has an indignant and self-righteous attitude that makes you so defensive about your abuse of handicap parking needs. You are are essentially an Uber, on call, driver. Handicap parking is not waiting stalls for Uber or taxies.

jswirs 03-14-2023 04:53 AM

I thank God every day that I am not handicapped. I pay no attention to handicapped parking spots and who may be in them. In fact, I usually park in a remote area of the lot to hopefully avoid dings and dents from other vehicles, and get a little more exercise as well.
However, I do KNOW that some folks abuse handicapped parking, they have a permit but in no way are they handicapped. The way I have seen karma work, it wouldn't surprise me if some day, they actually do need a handicapped permit.

Nucky 03-14-2023 05:29 AM

OP, mind your own business and be thankful that it’s not you that has to be the one directly concerned about a handicapped spot.

Call the Police. You have no authority to directly approach the person waiting in the car. Your actions are shameful in my opinion.

Blackbird45 03-14-2023 05:44 AM

I don't understand
 
My wife is in a wheelchair and when she is not with me, I do not park in a handicap spot. What gets me is to see a person drive up in a golfcart full of clubs, park in a handicap spot, and walk into a restaurant. They do have a handicap tag hanging, but my view is if your healthy enough to play golf, you should be able to walk a few more steps to where you're going. With my wife I'm not worried about the distance, but the handicap spots allow more space to maneuver a wheelchair.

Get real 03-14-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2197537)

He was told by the airport people perfectly healthy people are buying wheelchairs when traveling to get through the TSA check at the airports.

It is amazing how successful those "Miracle Flights" are in curing people from needing wheelchairs to deplane.

jojo 03-14-2023 05:59 AM

My mother lived with us and I asked my her doctor for a letter for a handicapped sticker when she was 102. He said he didn't think she needed it. We never got one. She went into assisted living at 106.

GizmoWhiskers 03-14-2023 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2197526)
Way too many people have handi cap parking stickers in the Villages!

Some truth to that. Wondering when anxiety and depression fits the criteria for handicap parking? Had an aquaintance once that had one based on that. She was perfectly fine other wise. I guess a Dr. got it for her (?).

westernrider75 03-14-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197498)
He did say his wife was handicapped, but he may have been as well. Just didn't have any trouble getting out of the vehicle.

You do realize that no all disabilities are visible right? Could be a heart condition or other medical condition not visible.

wsachs 03-14-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2197561)
My wife has advanced COPD, severe rheumatoid arthritis that keeps her in pain and mobility issues due to a back injury. She has a disabled placard. Sometimes I drive her to do her shopping and park in a disabled spot and she will walk to the store. She tries to do as much as she can physically and will walk back to the car, where I'm waiting, when she finishes shopping. Some days after walking around in the store her pain level and inability to breathe gets the best of her and she will call me on the phone and ask me to pick her up.
I advise any busy bodies to mind their own business and not approach me with their righteous attitude.

It was 'suggested' that since YOU are not handicapped, you could park somewhere close by and let someone who is REALLY handicapped use the spot. Then you could drive up and pick her up. What's wrong with that idea?

BoatRatKat 03-14-2023 06:43 AM

As if getting old isn't hard enough, now we have "parents" at every turn telling us what we should and shouldn't do. Why do so many people feel the need to give their opinion...usually a negative one at that. Caregivers have a hard enough job taking care of their loved ones, the last thing they need is someone getting into their business about a parking space. Jeez.

lisahathy 03-14-2023 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2197561)
My wife has advanced COPD, severe rheumatoid arthritis that keeps her in pain and mobility issues due to a back injury. She has a disabled placard. Sometimes I drive her to do her shopping and park in a disabled spot and she will walk to the store. She tries to do as much as she can physically and will walk back to the car, where I'm waiting, when she finishes shopping. Some days after walking around in the store her pain level and inability to breathe gets the best of her and she will call me on the phone and ask me to pick her up.
I advise any busy bodies to mind their own business and not approach me with their righteous attitude.

If your wife has the ability to call you to ask you to pick her up you really don’t need to take up a handicapped parking spot to drive to her. Save the handicapped parking spot for someone who is handicapped and needs to walk back to their car. Now if there were other available handicapped parking spots it’s not a big deal.

airstreamingypsy 03-14-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2197487)
This just sounds strange to me. You mean a perfectly able person is sitting in the car while they had sent the HANDICAPPED person shopping?

I suspect the handicapped person was the driver sitting in the car, while the healthy person ran into the store. Handicapped spaces should not be used when the non handicapped person is the one going into the store.

Nucky 03-14-2023 07:17 AM

It’s a useless conversation with some people. Your mind is set and that’s that. Are there some that abuse the handicapped parking? I’m sure there are. Don’t EVER come to my car window and question or instruct me about anything to do with the spot I’m in so to speak!

Kallbox 03-14-2023 07:18 AM

I agree

Reynoka 03-14-2023 07:23 AM

People really need to mind their own business regarding disabled parking. I wouldn’t look to you as disabled …yet…but without disabled parking I would be too fatigued to go in the store. I can only go in for a few items at a time and need to return to sit or I could fall from an inherited muscle disease. Yes I walk and look normal to you. You don’t know how much it takes out of me to be able to pick out what I want at a store. It may take weeks to feel up to the walking and standing to pick out what I want. If the disability spots are all taken, I often have to just drive home again. But I see the judgey people looking at me walking out of my car dressed nicely. I just pray you never have a disability that you have to live with. Judgey people make bad disabled people because they end up refusing to use the disabled parking when they need it, because they worry how others view them. I don’t look disabled walking off a plane, but I couldn’t fly without a wheelchair and helper waiting for me when I walk off the plane. Just know people who don’t appear disabled may be enduring lots, just to appear normal for a few minutes.

hampton 03-14-2023 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2197650)
It’s a useless conversation with some people. Your mind is set and that’s that. Are there some that abuse the handicapped parking? I’m sure there are. Don’t EVER come to my car window and question or instruct me about anything to do with the spot I’m in so to speak!

THEN WHAT, why the threat

MrFlorida 03-14-2023 07:39 AM

If you park in a handicapped spot, Please have a hangtag or license plate that says so..... I see many without either in a handicapped spot. It's not fair to somebody that really needs that spot.

kendi 03-14-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2197535)
If a spouse wants to wait up close for an ailing loved one, it's fine with me.

Up close yes, but not occupying a handicap spot. These are for drivers who are handicapped only.

PjLyness1965 03-14-2023 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197465)
Please don't sit in a car in the driver's seat waiting for someone in the store
in a disabled parking spot.

You can wait somewhere else and pick them up in front of the store or nearer than that parking spot. Someone with a disabled parking permit who intends to actually get out of the car and go in may have to park further away than they should have to because you are sitting in that spot when you could have waited somewhere near enough to see the store entrance and pick up the person you are waiting for. To me, it's the courteous thing to do.

Mind your own business. Those plates and stickers are given out by the state for a reason. Sounds like you’re mad because you didn’t get there first or you don’t have one. Get over it.

ronwinger 03-14-2023 07:42 AM

Do not judge a book by its cover... let me say, my wife and I are both handicapped (heart issues) and we both have Handicap Tags. To look at us one would not know. Some days are better than others. Many times she will set in the car when I go in. Sometimes, I may walk in and use the electric carts to come back out. Some handicap parking spots are so far away, they are useless. Believe me, when I see Non handicap spot close to the Handicap spot I ALWAYS take the non handicap spot. I guess what I am saying, there a many people that abuse Handicap spots but, we can not know who or what the handicap is.

billethkid 03-14-2023 07:51 AM

How about we put the same attention on speeding, stop signs and school zone laws/rules!!

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bark4me 03-14-2023 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197465)
Please don't sit in a car in the driver's seat waiting for someone in the store
in a disabled parking spot.

You can wait somewhere else and pick them up in front of the store or nearer than that parking spot. Someone with a disabled parking permit who intends to actually get out of the car and go in may have to park further away than they should have to because you are sitting in that spot when you could have waited somewhere near enough to see the store entrance and pick up the person you are waiting for. To me, it's the courteous thing to do.

You hit the nail on the head... Courteous thing to do! Some people feel a sense of entitlement. Unbelievable.

RedChariot 03-14-2023 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2197603)
OP, mind your own business and be thankful that it’s not you that has to be the one directly concerned about a handicapped spot.

Call the Police. You have no authority to directly approach the person waiting in the car. Your actions are shameful in my opinion.

I agree. OP has no right to have confronted that man. Stop being such a busy body. Mind your own business.

bark4me 03-14-2023 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2197470)
I have noticed some with handicap tag, sit in their car for awhile before finally getting out of the car. Might be a motility issue and needs a rest before exiting the car

Ahhhhh. Bless your little heart. You still believe in Santa Claus 🧑*🎄 I see.

nn0wheremann 03-14-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TSO/ISPF (Post 2197486)
Not the situation today. I went into the store and came out 10 minutes later. Person was still sitting in the car. I've seen this a few times and it just seems to be inconsiderate to me. I actually suggested the idea and he was able to exit the car pretty quickly to threaten me. In this day and age better to just not say anything.

Toot your horn, to let them know to move on?
The best solution to disabled parking space abuse I have encountered was in Davenport Iowa. Someone affixed kindly reminder notes to violator’s windshields. These were printed on two foot square sticky paper stock. By the time the violator s were able to scrape the reminder off, they had lost any convenience they had acquired by way of their violation.

Mellow 03-14-2023 08:48 AM

Handicapped parking
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2197534)
IMHO,the only vehicle that should be in a handicap spot is one driven by a handicapped person. A handicapped person being chauffeured should be let off at the loading zone. The driver can park elsewhere and then be called to pickup the handicapped person at the loading zone.

So not true. I have a disabled adult child that can’t be left alone on a sidewalk, while I go to get the car. The law says that the disabled person has to be the one exiting the car. All other passengers can remain in the car. In my adult child’s case, she needs someone to wheel her. She also needs space for the ramp to come down to enter & exit the handicapped van.


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