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Velvet 09-15-2023 11:53 AM

RSV vaccine
 
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

Altavia 09-15-2023 12:18 PM

Yes, had similar affects as with a flu shot. Sore arm and a little achey the day after.

It's ok to take with the flu shot if you don't mind both arms being sore.

Best to talk to your Doc first, as with any vaccine, there have been a few adverse affects reported.

Should You Get the New RSV Vaccine? > News > Yale Medicine

Stu from NYC 09-15-2023 12:33 PM

We have DR appt in two weeks and plan to discuss that with her.

JoMar 09-15-2023 01:07 PM

Discussed with my PCP. Got both RSV and Flu shot today at Publix. Also picked up donuts and cottage cheese at the same time. What a productive morning :)

JohnN 09-15-2023 01:58 PM

My doc suggested it, I researched it, and got it a week ago at Publix.
United Healthcare covers it 100%.
Easy peezy.

Cybersprings 09-15-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.


Already popping the popcorn. To the pleasure of many, I may just sit out and just watch this thread.

Bjeanj 09-15-2023 02:29 PM

I talked to both my family doctor and pulmonologist about this vaccine, and both said it was a good idea. My pulmonologist told me that during COVID, when they were testing people, they found that RSV was more prevalent than they thought.

golfing eagles 09-15-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2257264)
Already popping the popcorn. To the pleasure of many, I may just sit out and just watch this thread.

I'm pleased already :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But seriously, so far I like this thread. Everyone seems to have discussed it with their own doctor and taken the professional advice. No one (yet) has bragged about how they "did they own research" and "made their own decision". No one has tried to compare this new RSV vaccine with the controversy over mRNA vaccines. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.......

Cybersprings 09-15-2023 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2257289)
I'm pleased already :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But seriously, so far I like this thread. Everyone seems to have discussed it with their own doctor and taken the professional advice. No one (yet) has bragged about how they "did they own research" and "made their own decision". No one has tried to compare this new RSV vaccine with the controversy over mRNA vaccines. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.......

Touche' but dammit you over came my resistance to posting.
Please try to ignore my long history of sarcasm and take these as a serioius questions. I truly have no idea what the answers are.
You had a full career as a doctor. The RSV vaccine is new, but I am guessing RSV is not.

So, how much education would the average family doctor have received in the last year or two on RSV and the vaccine?
Do they go back and take classes on it?
Or do they do their own research?
What research materials do they have access to that the average person does not as a result of their professional status?
If one doctor tells their patient "RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. You are in excellent health and have no co-morbidities that would cause you to be at increased risk other than being 60, therefore lets wait a couple of years before you get the vaccine and make sure it is truly safe over the long run" and another Dr. said
Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-uhl) virus, or RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. But better safe than sorry.
Would they both be right? Or would a doctor never make one of those two statements?

Stu from NYC 09-15-2023 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2257305)
Touche' but dammit you over came my resistance to posting.
Please try to ignore my long history of sarcasm and take these as a serioius questions. I truly have no idea what the answers are.
You had a full career as a doctor. The RSV vaccine is new, but I am guessing RSV is not.

So, how much education would the average family doctor have received in the last year or two on RSV and the vaccine?
Do they go back and take classes on it?
Or do they do their own research?
What research materials do they have access to that the average person does not as a result of their professional status?
If one doctor tells their patient "RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. You are in excellent health and have no co-morbidities that would cause you to be at increased risk other than being 60, therefore lets wait a couple of years before you get the vaccine and make sure it is truly safe over the long run" and another Dr. said
Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-uhl) virus, or RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. But better safe than sorry.
Would they both be right? Or would a doctor never make one of those two statements?

Good post and waiting for Golfing Eagles to respond. Would like to ask him another question. Have you or members of your family gotten the vaccine so far or are you planning too? As I mentioned earlier in this thread it is a question to ask of our doctor later this month at our next appt.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-15-2023 05:39 PM

The vaccine isn't new. The earliest versions of the vaccine were unsuccessful and actually lethal in a few cases, and that was in the 1960's. There were other unsuccessful attempts on both adults and children vaccines. Several attempts over a few decades, with new information being utilized to improve on the previous version, from different scientists, and different laboratories, and completely different studies with different patients.

The current version is the result of a vaccine study that was supposed to begin in 2019, but then COVID showed up and the race was on to create an emergency vaccine for that, and the RSV vaccine study had to be shelved, after the initial trials had already been completed. The next set of trials for the RSV vaccine started around 2020, by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK). Enter - me. I was in that trial. I'm a test subject, a guinea pig for the vaccine. I've had two shots, and was supposed to get a third but the studies proved that a second shot within a 2-year period didn't show enough improvement in odds to warrant that second shot, so they cancelled the third. The first shot was proven effective, and they're going to be testing some of the subjects who received the 2nd shot, somewhere around year 4 to see if subsequent shots are necessary or helpful.

But they were already proven safe, which is why the FDA approved it for use. I just had bloodwork done this week, and will finish out the year with bi-weekly calls starting in October since that's when the main RSV season begins. I get paid for each call, and extra for bloodwork. If I feel like I have a cold, flu, or any related symptoms that I can't attribute to my usual allergies, then I have to go in for a physical and swab, and I get paid for that too.

I -could- get the actual RSV shot any time, now that it's FDA approved. But if I do, then I am automatically disqualified from completing my contribution as a test subject in the trial. I've chosen to finish out the trial, and will likely get the shot next year.

golfing eagles 09-15-2023 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2257305)
Touche' but dammit you over came my resistance to posting.
Please try to ignore my long history of sarcasm and take these as a serioius questions. I truly have no idea what the answers are.
You had a full career as a doctor. The RSV vaccine is new, but I am guessing RSV is not.

So, how much education would the average family doctor have received in the last year or two on RSV and the vaccine?
Do they go back and take classes on it?
Or do they do their own research?
What research materials do they have access to that the average person does not as a result of their professional status?
If one doctor tells their patient "RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. You are in excellent health and have no co-morbidities that would cause you to be at increased risk other than being 60, therefore lets wait a couple of years before you get the vaccine and make sure it is truly safe over the long run" and another Dr. said
Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-uhl) virus, or RSV, is a common respiratory virus that usually causes mild, cold-like symptoms. Most people recover in a week or two, but RSV can be serious. But better safe than sorry.
Would they both be right? Or would a doctor never make one of those two statements?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2257315)
Good post and waiting for Golfing Eagles to respond. Would like to ask him another question. Have you or members of your family gotten the vaccine so far or are you planning too? As I mentioned earlier in this thread it is a question to ask of our doctor later this month at our next appt.

Ok, that question is legitimate enough to warrant a serious answer.

I've been retired 8 years and have not yet looked into the new RSV vaccine, although I believe it is a traditional viral vaccine, unlike COVID. Also, the apparent discovery/infection of adults with RSV is new to me----it has historically been considered a disease of infants and newborns. Personally, I haven't decided whether or not to get this vaccine---but as I already advised everyone else, I'm going to discuss it with my physician, who will be up to date on it.

No, physicians don't "take classes" on every new vaccine or medication. Usually reading the product insert is adequate. There is a publication call "The Medical Letter" that generally does a short review of new meds and vaccines. Beyond that, most of us subscribe to either PubMed or Up to Date----2 professional medical sites that are extremely valuable (not the lay person versions).

Could you get different advice from 2 doctors? Of course---there is an old joke that put 10 doctors in a room and you'll get 10 different opinions, especially with something new. But most vaccines and new drugs are pretty thoroughly tested before they gain FDA approval---no, they're not always 100%, especially when there is an urgent need and they rush something through, but in general they do a good job.

As this develops I'll probably look at the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population, and try as best I can to determine if it's for real or just hype.

asianthree 09-15-2023 05:52 PM

I am passing on this vaccine, just as I have all the others. It’s a personal decision, I can make on my own.

Altavia 09-15-2023 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2257266)
I talked to both my family doctor and pulmonologist about this vaccine, and both said it was a good idea. My pulmonologist told me that during COVID, when they were testing people, they found that RSV was more prevalent than they thought.

Previously, RSV was typically lumped together with other respiratory infections that cause cold-like symptoms.

The Clinical Trial Investigator I worked with mentioned advancements in low cost, rapid, multiplexed molecular testing lead to a linkage between RSV and more serious lower respiratory infections in high risk groups.


RSV in Adults | American Lung Association

GATORBILL66 09-16-2023 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.


Get the vaccine, shorten your life!

golfing eagles 09-16-2023 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2257502)
Get the vaccine, shorten your life!

Really???? And that statement is based on what??????
How about those people for whom the vaccine may save their lives???

Sounds like someone googles anti-vaxxer websites (and actually believes their nonsense enough to repeat it here). Please don't do the members of TOTV a disservice by spouting out crap.

JohnN 09-16-2023 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2257289)
I'm pleased already :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But seriously, so far I like this thread. Everyone seems to have discussed it with their own doctor and taken the professional advice. No one (yet) has bragged about how they "did they own research" and "made their own decision". No one has tried to compare this new RSV vaccine with the controversy over mRNA vaccines. Of course, I'm not holding my breath.......

PS, you must have missed my post. I did my own research. Part of "making my own decision" is talking to my doc. I tend to make my own choices.
So, you're talking but not thinking if you're including me. ~peace

MarcStephen 09-16-2023 07:23 AM

RSV Vaccine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

RSV apparently is commin among children. Mild symptoms take their course as with any virus.

Talk to your physician about any virus and preventions.

Be very cautious with vaccines and medical recommendations in this current political and big pharma greed climate.

Everyone is entitled to making a personal decision as to how they manage their health. Do what is best for you but research everything before taking any jab.

RSV Treatment and Prevention | American Lung Association.

Ellwoodrick 09-16-2023 07:23 AM

Not a medical professional just like to read. If your own body does not develop antibodies to protect you is this vaccine suppose to lessen the effects?

Taken from the American Lung Association page:

Understanding RSV in Adults

RSV is a common virus that you have undoubtedly been sick with before. You might not have known that you had RSV because without a lab test to confirm diagnosis, it is typically lumped together with other respiratory infections that cause cold-like symptoms. It is possible to get RSV multiple times, even in the same year, because you do not develop complete immunity to it.

golfing eagles 09-16-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnN (Post 2257512)
PS, you must have missed my post. I did my own research. Part of "making my own decision" is talking to my doc. I tend to make my own choices.
So, you're talking but not thinking if you're including me. ~peace

Not including you---you did exactly what you should. The post was more directed at those, like during the pandemic, that skipped the physician conversation, did a 5 minute google search and made a bad decision. For many of them, here is the result:

Mrfriendly 09-16-2023 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

Nope

Villagesgal 09-16-2023 07:39 AM

I had rsv last winter. It was awful. I could barely breath, slept most of the day, had to lay flat or could barely breath. It lasted about 18 days. Went to emergency care up north, they confirmed rsv. I was not hospitalized, but told if symptoms got worse to go to the emergency room. Not something I'd ever want to go thru again.

Andyb 09-16-2023 07:40 AM

Colds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2257264)
Already popping the popcorn. To the pleasure of many, I may just sit out and just watch this thread.

Anybody catching a cold? Colds seem to have disappeared?

BaileyMom 09-16-2023 08:54 AM

Last December I caught RSV from our young grandson. I lost my voice for a solid month and sounded hoarse for several months after that. I will be getting vaxxed for RSV and the flu.

ndf888 09-16-2023 09:28 AM

Our PCP recommended it
 
We both got it based on the advice of our PCP. He said it was safe and effective. We only some minor symptoms the day after.

Altavia 09-16-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2257530)
Anybody catching a cold? Colds seem to have disappeared?

RSV is among a number of virus that cause respiratory infections.

The technology to perform this testing rapidly and cost effectively to help physicians in their diagnosis has been released the past few years.

Here's a chart showing the evolution of most common pathogens detected by the BioFire system the past few months.

BIOFIRE(R) Syndromic Trends

Altavia 09-16-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2257502)
Get the vaccine, shorten your life!

Do you take antibiotics?

Altavia 09-16-2023 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2257505)
Really???? And that statement is based on what??????
How about those people for whom the vaccine may save their lives???

Sounds like someone googles anti-vaxxer websites (and actually believes their nonsense enough to repeat it here). Please don't do the members of TOTV a disservice by spouting out crap.

The same group likely insists on being prescribed antibiotics for viral infections...

Which is doing far more harm than any vaccine.

mark100 09-16-2023 10:16 AM

Yes, my wife and I got it. Slight sore arm for her no effects for me. Ot is recommended for those over 60

rogerk 09-16-2023 12:50 PM

I’m seriously considering getting the RSV vaccination, not just for myself but for the grandkids! Almost lost one to RSV last winter.

Bogie Shooter 09-16-2023 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerk (Post 2257666)
I’m seriously considering getting the RSV vaccination, not just for myself but for the grandkids! Almost lost one to RSV last winter.

And you have doubts???

Stu from NYC 09-16-2023 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2257380)
Ok, that question is legitimate enough to warrant a serious answer.

I've been retired 8 years and have not yet looked into the new RSV vaccine, although I believe it is a traditional viral vaccine, unlike COVID. Also, the apparent discovery/infection of adults with RSV is new to me----it has historically been considered a disease of infants and newborns. Personally, I haven't decided whether or not to get this vaccine---but as I already advised everyone else, I'm going to discuss it with my physician, who will be up to date on it.

No, physicians don't "take classes" on every new vaccine or medication. Usually reading the product insert is adequate. There is a publication call "The Medical Letter" that generally does a short review of new meds and vaccines. Beyond that, most of us subscribe to either PubMed or Up to Date----2 professional medical sites that are extremely valuable (not the lay person versions).

Could you get different advice from 2 doctors? Of course---there is an old joke that put 10 doctors in a room and you'll get 10 different opinions, especially with something new. But most vaccines and new drugs are pretty thoroughly tested before they gain FDA approval---no, they're not always 100%, especially when there is an urgent need and they rush something through, but in general they do a good job.

As this develops I'll probably look at the incidence and prevalence of RSV in the over 65 population, and try as best I can to determine if it's for real or just hype.

Thank you for your answer, will be discussing with our DR.

allsport 09-16-2023 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

Got it, no symptoms. Got the flu shot at the same time and no problems with either.

threeonemiles@outlook.com 09-16-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2257184)
Anybody got this vaccine? I am thinking about it.

Think about not getting it.

jimjamuser 09-16-2023 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2257196)
Yes, had similar affects as with a flu shot. Sore arm and a little achey the day after.

It's ok to take with the flu shot if you don't mind both arms being sore.

Best to talk to your Doc first, as with any vaccine, there have been a few adverse affects reported.

Should You Get the New RSV Vaccine? > News > Yale Medicine

Sure, I'm going for it.

threeonemiles@outlook.com 09-16-2023 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2257616)
Do you take antibiotics?

Antibiotics have been extensively tested. Vaccines not so much.

golfing eagles 09-16-2023 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threeonemiles@outlook.com (Post 2257714)
Antibiotics have been extensively tested. Vaccines not so much.

Hmm....you really think that????? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

jimjamuser 09-16-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by threeonemiles@outlook.com (Post 2257709)
Think about not getting it.

I like the elaborate reason given there for not getting it. Very scientific and well thought out and researched.

Topspinmo 09-16-2023 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2257530)
Anybody catching a cold? Colds seem to have disappeared?

It called Covid now:confused:

PugMom 09-16-2023 04:49 PM

thank you for a very interesting thread. lots of info, with intelligent comments & Eagle's humor makes it all fall into place. question: do we need to have the shot each year? OBB states she did not need the booster in her experience. do they (Dr's) check titer levels?


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