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mtdjed 11-18-2023 11:11 PM

EV Solves Range Problem
 
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Ecuadog 11-19-2023 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
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Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Starts to sound like a Range-Extender Electric Vehicle (REEV).

Keefelane66 11-19-2023 07:10 AM

My Toyota 2022 hybrid gets 67 mpg highway on 11.4 gallon tank we get 660 miles on tank b4 we fill up needle not on E. Could probably make it to over 700 miles b4 fill up.

ThirdOfFive 11-19-2023 07:15 AM

Interesting. I had a dream the other night about realistic human-powered flight. One of those feather-light glider jobs with cellophane wings. You spend the first three hours on the ground pedaling like mad to charge a small battery, then with a combination of pedal power and battery you have enough oomph to get the thing to a realistic altitude (say 500'), switch to glider mode hopefully in an area with thermals, then pedal like crazy to charge the battery while hopefully the thermals keep you in the sky. Human powered! Of course the human in question would have to be a Lance Armstrong...

On a more realistic note though--what about Stirling engines as a charging backup for your mythical EV? They don't need fossil fuels, merely a heat source to operate, and that can be anything. They've been around for 200 years but they've remained more a curiosity (though they were used to run pumps in mines at one time).

Bay Kid 11-19-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Such a shame. Closing down the oil fields will not stop global warming. Maybe stopping the controlled burning would help? Maybe more money? Maybe solar panels covering our corn fields? Maybe windmills full of oil over our waters will help, until they leak?

Toymeister 11-19-2023 08:22 AM

Lucky you OP your dream was answered by Toyota with last year's model year!

It's called the Prius Prime version of the Prius. the plug in version. Not only is it electric It's gasoline and it has a generator powered by gasoline to charge the battery. And it's zero to sixty is quite respectable.

And Toyota offers other plug in models including a SUV, which do the same.

metalic 11-19-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

It is a hybrid
It is not complicated
It is reality, not a dream

djlnc 11-19-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Think of the range you could get if you hauled a small trailer with a couple hundred gallons of gas to keep those batteries charged!

Caymus 11-19-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2275811)
Interesting. I had a dream the other night about realistic human-powered flight. One of those feather-light glider jobs with cellophane wings. You spend the first three hours on the ground pedaling like mad to charge a small battery, then with a combination of pedal power and battery you have enough oomph to get the thing to a realistic altitude (say 500'), switch to glider mode hopefully in an area with thermals, then pedal like crazy to charge the battery while hopefully the thermals keep you in the sky. Human powered! Of course the human in question would have to be a Lance Armstrong...

On a more realistic note though--what about Stirling engines as a charging backup for your mythical EV? They don't need fossil fuels, merely a heat source to operate, and that can be anything. They've been around for 200 years but they've remained more a curiosity (though they were used to run pumps in mines at one time).

Why not try a giant rubber band? :angel:

JRcorvette 11-19-2023 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

NEWS FLASH
Global Warming does not exist and that’s a fact. Cars going to EV will not change anything at all as the modern cars do not even pollute very much.

Topspinmo 11-19-2023 09:38 AM

I had dream I could fly. And my villages bushes was money trees. :MOJE_whot: then nightmare set in, my district robbed me with 25% increase maintenance fee and my wings was clipped.

rustyp 11-19-2023 10:14 AM

I had a dream in northern NY at 0 degrees I could turn the heat on in my electric car. The dream continues that I make it to work before the geeks occupied all the spots at the charging station. We now have a new perk at work. Confidential employees get a reserved charging station spot in lieu of stock options. Non union lower level employees have the option of a 401K matching plan or parking in the high priority charging station parking lot. Unionized employees can surrender their low deductible health insurance for a chance to secure a charging spot via a lottery system.

n8xwb 11-19-2023 10:15 AM

Maybe not a dream...sounds like the 2025 RAM Ramcharger EV! Also good to know it uses same technology as my 2018 Chevy Volt! The Volt has 400 mile range, 8.9 gal. tank and 50-60 mile all electric range -- perfect car for The Villages, I might add!

tophcfa 11-19-2023 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

I keep having this recurring dream that I’m a scratch golfer. Then I wake up, go golfing, and shoot in the mid 80’s, never anywhere near even par. The moral of the story is anything can happen in a dream, reality or not! Dream on my friend.

metalic 11-19-2023 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2275842)
NEWS FLASH
Global Warming does not exist and that’s a fact.

Thank you for clarifying

I was listening to the 97% of scientists who accept climate change as fact, rather than the 3% in the pay of Big Oil - silly old me!

Looking forward to your future revelation that smoking is good for you

Two Bills 11-19-2023 11:17 AM

Son in laws Volvo does same. Just a hybrid car.

VApeople 11-19-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream

I had a better dream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQEve-69r6I

jebartle 11-19-2023 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=mtdjed;2275784]I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated

We can only dream, BUT I'm sure the "Steve Jobs" out there will make it happen!

JMintzer 11-19-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2275871)
Thank you for clarifying

I was listening to the 97% of scientists who accept climate change as fact, rather than the 3% in the pay of Big Oil - silly old me!

Looking forward to your future revelation that smoking is good for you

"97%" is the new "FOX News"... Everybody drink!

djlnc 11-19-2023 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2275871)

I was listening to the 97% of scientists who accept climate change as fact, rather than the 3% in the pay of Big Oil - silly old me!

The 97% figure has been put out there so often that people accept it as gospel. If you do some research into the origin of that number, you'll see it's not true. The percentage is high, but not 97%.

mtdjed 11-19-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2275856)
Maybe not a dream...sounds like the 2025 RAM Ramcharger EV! Also good to know it uses same technology as my 2018 Chevy Volt! The Volt has 400 mile range, 8.9 gal. tank and 50-60 mile all electric range -- perfect car for The Villages, I might add!

Oh, maybe I didn't have a dream, and perhaps read that story in the Daily Sun.

CFrance 11-19-2023 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2275787)
Starts to sound like a Range-Extender Electric Vehicle (REEV).

Who are you now, Ecuadog? I don't recognize her.

Ecuadog 11-19-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2275956)
Who are you now, Ecuadog? I don't recognize her.

Today, my avatar is Della Reese.

coralway 11-19-2023 06:51 PM

I had a dream the other night as well. In my dream my Giants finally draft a half decent quarterback.

metalic 11-19-2023 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2275919)
The 97% figure has been put out there so often that people accept it as gospel. If you do some research into the origin of that number, you'll see it's not true. The percentage is high, but not 97%.

I suspect that the "research" you are referring to is the Forbes article in 2016.

In the seven years since that came out there has been a lot more evidence of climate change, and many scientists who were undecided back then have subsequently been persuaded.

Obviously no-one knows the exact figure, so I'm happy to go with "the vast majority".

Maybe Forbes should look into why so many people in The Villages continue to side with the tiny minority. I suspect those people just don't want to change their profligate ways. Maybe they should just change their TV channel and see what thinking people are saying.

Keefelane66 11-19-2023 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2275961)
I suspect that the "research" you are referring to is the Forbes article in 2016.

In the seven years since that came out there has been a lot more evidence of climate change, and many scientists who were undecided back then have subsequently been persuaded.

Obviously no-one knows the exact figure, so I'm happy to go with "the vast majority".

Maybe Forbes should look into why so many people in The Villages continue to side with the tiny minority. I suspect those people just don't want to change their profligate ways. Maybe they should just change their TV channel and see what thinking people are saying.

I agree

biker1 11-19-2023 08:06 PM

No, the original number came from a survey paper by John Cook. The number has been misused countless times. Anyone who uses that number should really read the paper. After reading the paper, they won't use that number anymore.

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Originally Posted by metalic (Post 2275961)
I suspect that the "research" you are referring to is the Forbes article in 2016.

In the seven years since that came out there has been a lot more evidence of climate change, and many scientists who were undecided back then have subsequently been persuaded.

Obviously no-one knows the exact figure, so I'm happy to go with "the vast majority".

Maybe Forbes should look into why so many people in The Villages continue to side with the tiny minority. I suspect those people just don't want to change their profligate ways. Maybe they should just change their TV channel and see what thinking people are saying.


mtdjed 11-19-2023 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 2275972)
No, the original number came from a survey paper by John Cook. The number has been misused countless times. Anyone who uses that number should really read the paper. After reading the paper, they won't use that number anymore.

No matter what the topic, it reverts to the same old Global issue. I tried a little satire regarding a RamCharger to be staying a pure EV by simply adding a petro powered battery charger. That charger probably used more gas for the battery charges than my car uses to run on gas alone.

tophcfa 11-19-2023 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2275959)
I had a dream the other night as well. In my dream my Giants finally draft a half decent quarterback.

Happened in 1979, Phil Simms.

MorTech 11-19-2023 11:11 PM

What an outstanding Rube Goldberg Device...Can't wait!

mntlblok 11-20-2023 04:35 AM

Demons
 
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2275811)

On a more realistic note though--what about Stirling engines as a charging backup for your mythical EV? They don't need fossil fuels, merely a heat source to operate, and that can be anything. They've been around for 200 years but they've remained more a curiosity (though they were used to run pumps in mines at one time).

Cool. Now I've learnt of "regenerative heat exchangers". Picturing a little Maxwell's demon sitting there operating the valve. :-)

vinricci 11-20-2023 05:38 AM

I owned a Prius Prime back in 2016. For some reason Toyota made it very difficult to purchase one outside of California. I had to search the country to finally buy mine. 38 miles on battery, then switch over to gas engine for about 600 mile range. That is where all manufacturers should be working on Improving instead of all electric.

revfiddle 11-20-2023 05:48 AM

I just remember to plug it in when I get home. I don't take any trips longer than 220 miles, so that's a non issue.

Caymus 11-20-2023 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2275784)
I had a dream that there will be an Electric Vehicle that solves the range of miles problem, lack of charging stations, time of charging etc. The truck will be scheduled for 2025 intro. It will get about 700 miles range without a need for stopping.

It will have its own generator to keep the battery charged. The generator is to be called a milage extender. Of course, generators require power to work. The uniqueness of his concept is that a readily available fuel, gasoline, will be used. It is planned that a small tank of gas will be stored on the vehicle. (Perhaps 27 Gal).

Wouldn't it be great if dreams like this could become reality? Close down the oil fields, no more global warning.

Alas, only a dream. Starts to sound like a complicated hybrid. Hmmm!

Going to need a lot more asphalt for road paving due to heavy EV batteries.

TEXJK 11-20-2023 06:44 AM

This post makes want to go hug a tree

Remembergoldenrule 11-20-2023 06:46 AM

Ok, what about where to put all the extra batteries when they die especially since don’t last as long, how manny trees will be cut down for factories, Electric car batteries are complex components containing many rare earth elements (REE), like lithium, nickel, cobalt, and graphite. As their name suggests, these materials are difficult to find and extract, requiring intensive mining and even some polluting processes to separate them from the soil. Let’s not forget these mineral mines are mostly controlled by China and child labor laws don’t apply. Some studies have shown that the manufacturing of a typical EV battery can result in higher carbon emissions compared to gasoline cars. This is due to the significant amount of energy required for the procurement of raw materials and the manufacturing process itself.
Extracting lithium from the brine is fairly straightforward and is done by evaporating the water to leave behind a lithium-rich solution.

Lithium mining’s environmental impact

Because of this evaporation process, lithium mining uses a large amount of groundwater that gets lost in the process. This can deprive local communities of drinking water and harms farming by reducing the water available for irrigation – especially given that most of the world’s lithium is extracted in arid regions with scarce water supplies in the first place.

On top of that, the remaining liquid left after lithium is extracted can contain toxic or radioactive elements and needs to be cleaned and stored before it can be released.
Manganese is usually mined in open pit mines, with around 80% of manganese production coming from South Africa. Australia, China, India, Ukraine, and Brazil also produce significant shares of the metal.

Manganese mining’s environmental impact

Because of its mining in open pits, manganese extraction can cause substantial air pollution, especially in dry areas where dust from mining can rise easily. Additionally, manganese can pollute the soil and water supply, including by introducing other chemical elements.
Let’s not forget all the employees replaced by automation in EV factories.
Also, don’t forget the EV charging stations use electricity which means electricity has to be produced and all the factors that go into that. Are you ready for more rolling brownouts and blackouts? Are you ok with all the environmental and other costs of more electric plants? Just thinking.

skippy05 11-20-2023 06:46 AM

Your range extendor was already a thing on the discontinued BMW electric i3. I owned one previously and it sucked even with the range extendor option.

huge-pigeons 11-20-2023 07:10 AM

There are probably 25% of so called scientists that are paid off to say whatever the payers want them to say. All of the scares these so called scientists have predicted during the last 100 years, with all of them saying we have a decade before we are wiped off the earth unless we do something, have all been debunked. How about the rising oceans because of the demise of all the glaciers?Isn’t Miami supposed to be under feet of water by now? These so-called scientists were predicting the villages would have ocean front property in a few years, they actually drew up maps depicting this scenario. Remember the hole in the ozone layer from decades ago? NOAA still says we have the hole over Antarctica and it won’t be fixed until the 2060’s. They also mention this hole is caused by natural means and is closing by natural means, this is why you don’t hear these so-called climatologists anymore because it’s been over a decade when doomsday was supposed to occur and nothing happened.

Bwanajim 11-20-2023 07:31 AM

Not for me. The electrical grid in this country would need a major major overhaul. Right now the average city block could only support three or four home charging stations.
Damage to the environment and in poor countries were the minerals are mined for batteries is horrible.
What do you do with the batteries when they need replaced?
Look how expensive the batteries are.
And, uh, what creates electricity to charge the vehicle? It’s not gonna be solar or windmills, it’s going to be possible fuels, and it always will be.

MandoMan 11-20-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2275826)
Lucky you OP your dream was answered by Toyota with last year's model year!

It's called the Prius Prime version of the Prius. the plug in version. Not only is it electric It's gasoline and it has a generator powered by gasoline to charge the battery. And it's zero to sixty is quite respectable.

And Toyota offers other plug in models including a SUV, which do the same.

I would be interested, except that the Prius was heavily redesigned for this year and is several inches lower. I don’t think I could get in and out. Alas! I love the Prius I’ve been driving for ten years.


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