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sounding 01-16-2025 09:15 PM

FInd out when The Villages will have ocean front properties
 
The Villages Philosophy Club will examine this issue at 4 PM on Jan 17 at the Lake Miona Recreation Center.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-16-2025 09:21 PM

Easy answer: It'll happen some time around 4093 AA (After the Apocalypse).

fdpaq0580 01-16-2025 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2402149)
Easy answer: It'll happen some time around 4093 AA (After the Apocalypse).

Yes! And it will be on a Tuesday at 4:27 pm eastern standard time. Beautiful ocean sunset a few hours later.
Guaranteed or your money back.
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bopat 01-16-2025 10:33 PM

Iโ€™d say sometime after Costco opens in The Villages

fdpaq0580 01-16-2025 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2402156)
Iโ€™d say sometime after Costco opens in The Villages

Possibly.

sounding 01-17-2025 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402147)
The Villages Philosophy Club will examine this issue at 4 PM on Jan 17 at the Lake Miona Recreation Center.

Here's a clue to why sea level predictions are wrong ... Just a moment...

daniel200 01-17-2025 11:33 PM

Many already have Golf frontage. Isnโ€™t the Villages closer to the Golf?

Taltarzac725 01-18-2025 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402195)
Here's a clue to why sea level predictions are wrong ... Just a moment...

Critical thinkers should be able to jump all over this.

RICH1 01-18-2025 05:57 AM

why would the ocean stop rising at the Villages? I've seen small creeks bend semi-trucks in half.

defrey12 01-18-2025 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402147)
The Villages Philosophy Club will examine this issue at 4 PM on Jan 17 at the Lake Miona Recreation Center.

This is a joke, right? This is NOT an issue last I checked.

opinionist 01-18-2025 07:50 AM

Let me guess.
When half of Florida is underwater due to global warming.
I heard that story, but it turned out to be not true.

Andyb 01-18-2025 07:55 AM

Too funny!

Two Bills 01-18-2025 09:04 AM

No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

ehonour 01-18-2025 09:08 AM

Well, this study says the mean surface temperature of the Earth 100 million years ago as perhaps as much as 20degC higher than today:
Just a moment...
And this study shows the changes in the continents over the last 100 million years, starting with a grouping that appears not to have significantly less land area than today:
Most detailed geological model reveals Earth’s past 100 million years - The University of Sydney
Cordially,
Doc Honour

sounding 01-18-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2402388)
No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

And Hansen is one of the best stir posts.

rsmurano 01-18-2025 09:41 AM

About the same time when pigs can fly or hell freezes over.

Bill14564 01-18-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402393)
And Hansen is one of the best stir posts.

From this article about the controversy:
Bob Reiss reports the conversation as follows:

"When I interviewe**d James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I'd been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I wasn't asking for hard scientific studies. It wasn't an academic interview. It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. You can find the descriptio**n in two of my books, most recently The Coming Storm."

James Hansen reports the conversation as follows:

"Reiss asked me to speculate on changes that might happen in New York City in 40 years assuming CO2 doubled in amount."
Please note that it is not 2028 and CO2 has not doubled.

sounding 01-18-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2402415)
From this article about the controversy:
Bob Reiss reports the conversation as follows:

"When I interviewe**d James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I'd been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I wasn't asking for hard scientific studies. It wasn't an academic interview. It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. You can find the descriptio**n in two of my books, most recently The Coming Storm."

James Hansen reports the conversation as follows:

"Reiss asked me to speculate on changes that might happen in New York City in 40 years assuming CO2 doubled in amount."
Please note that it is not 2028 and CO2 has not doubled.

Hansen fails another forecast.

jimkerr 01-18-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402147)
The Villages Philosophy Club will examine this issue at 4 PM on Jan 17 at the Lake Miona Recreation Center.

This sounds like a fun club.

jimjamuser 01-18-2025 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2402324)
Critical thinkers should be able to jump all over this.

Arctic warming releases MASSIVE amounts of METHANE, a greenhouse gas which accelerated Global Warming. Polar bears and other mammals rely on ICE for hunting and protection - they are struggling to survive. The same is true for indigenous PEOPLE. past a certain point, climate recovery is nearly impossible.
........Permafrost is rapidly warming and drying out in Siberia and the Canadian Northwest Territory. Thawing permafrost can release stored carbon through the increased risk of fire. That will ADD to the CO2 in the upper atmosphere which reflects heat back to the Earth and our mid-latitudes.

jimjamuser 01-18-2025 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2402388)
No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

Actually kids and grandchildren WILL be affected. WE are being affected as we speak. Last summer we had record HEAT in the Gulf and Atlantic ocean and we had the MOST PROPERTY DESTRUCTIVE hurricane to hit the US. I was affected last summer. I had to restrict my outdoor activities here in The Villages. Look at a graph of World HEAT for the last 10 years (all records). Also look at the graph of world population since about 1990 (a rapid spike upward).

jimjamuser 01-18-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402393)
And Hansen is one of the best stir posts.

Icebergs are melting and the Oceans ARE rising today.

jimjamuser 01-18-2025 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2402413)
About the same time when pigs can fly or hell freezes over.

A person can only AVOID science for so long.

sounding 01-18-2025 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2402510)
Icebergs are melting and the Oceans ARE rising today.

That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

jimjamuser 01-18-2025 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402533)
That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about. Old time geology is just a DISTRACTION which may SOUND (ing) good to try and obscure what is really happening today. Today I am talking about VERIFIABLE global heating happening in the last 5 or 10 years. And caused by the reflection of the Sun's heat back to the Earth that bounces back from a layer of CO2 and methane that has formed recently (10 years) because of rapid INCREASES of pollution caused by INCREASED world population and therefore more infernal combustion engines, more coal usage, and more industrial pollution. Merely look at the graphs for world population increase and graphs for CO2 and methane world pollution.They all increase in the last 10 years.
.........One does NOT have to read a book about what happened to the Earth 2 million years ago. One can just look outside their window and see the Internal combustion cars, trucks, and golf carts going by to DIRECTLY see the problem.
..........My famous quote..,.....The world that IGNORES Global Warming must SUFFER its consequences! Ignore your Mother, Mother Earth at your peril.

Rodneysblue 01-18-2025 05:55 PM

Well at the current rate of expansionโ€ฆ..

sounding 01-18-2025 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2402549)
What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about. Old time geology is just a DISTRACTION which may SOUND (ing) good to try and obscure what is really happening today. Today I am talking about VERIFIABLE global heating happening in the last 5 or 10 years. And caused by the reflection of the Sun's heat back to the Earth that bounces back from a layer of CO2 and methane that has formed recently (10 years) because of rapid INCREASES of pollution caused by INCREASED world population and therefore more infernal combustion engines, more coal usage, and more industrial pollution. Merely look at the graphs for world population increase and graphs for CO2 and methane world pollution.They all increase in the last 10 years.
.........One does NOT have to read a book about what happened to the Earth 2 million years ago. One can just look outside their window and see the Internal combustion cars, trucks, and golf carts going by to DIRECTLY see the problem.
..........My famous quote..,.....The world that IGNORES Global Warming must SUFFER its consequences! Ignore your Mother, Mother Earth at your peril.

"Suffer the consequences"? .... so why are soooo many moving to Florida? We are approaching a climatic optimum -- thanx to global warming and increasing CO2.

jedalton 01-18-2025 08:32 PM

Ha Ha, what a joke

CybrSage 01-19-2025 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402433)
Hansen fails another forecast.

Al Gore was just as bad with his 'no glaciers remaining by 2015" prediction.

CybrSage 01-19-2025 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2402549)
What happened in prehistorical time 1000 or 100,000 years ago has zero meaning as to what is happening today and what I am talking about.

What percentage of the current warming is caused by the well know natural warming that would be happening right now even if human never existed and what percentage of the warming is caused by humans? Go ahead and round to the nearest 5%. State the source as well.

Interested to see howich is our fault so we know how much we can stop.

Thanks!!

gbs317 01-19-2025 06:31 AM

I knew seven years ago The Villages will be from the Atlantic Ocean to the Gulf Coast and from Tallahassee to Miami and eventually we will be known as the state of The Villages.

Bill14564 01-19-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2402636)
What percentage of the current warming is caused by the well know natural warming that would be happening right now even if human never existed and what percentage of the warming is caused by humans? Go ahead and round to the nearest 5%. State the source as well.

Interested to see howich is our fault so we know how much we can stop.

Thanks!!

I remember that being done in another thread about six months ago. But, deniers deny so it was dismissed as being more lies, a remnant of a dinosaur passing gas 450 million years ago, a conspiracy by the govt to change all the thermometer readings, or just "LALALALALA I don't hear you."

A yearly number is likely impossible to calculate due to the complexity of the system. On the other hand, a 150(ish)-year trend has been widely published.

Blueblaze 01-19-2025 07:48 AM

Didn't Al Gore already explain when that was going to happen? 2017, right?

Hasn't happened for me yet, though. I think it must have only happened in Opposite World.

defrey12 01-19-2025 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2402388)
No concern of mine, my kids, or grands.
Not a problem.
Just another **** stir post.

Ohโ€ฆthe sky is falling; the sky is falling!

defrey12 01-19-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2402484)
This sounds like a fun club.

Oh, yesโ€ฆloads. Handwringing at its best.

defrey12 01-19-2025 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402533)
That's like saying the sun comes up in the East. Oceans go Up & Down 400 feet each glaciation cycle. Sea levels were about 25 HIGHER during the prior Interglacial Warm Period. It's all natural -- except for the climate alarmism part.

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mraines 01-19-2025 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2402505)
Arctic warming releases MASSIVE amounts of METHANE, a greenhouse gas which accelerated Global Warming. Polar bears and other mammals rely on ICE for hunting and protection - they are struggling to survive. The same is true for indigenous PEOPLE. past a certain point, climate recovery is nearly impossible.
........Permafrost is rapidly warming and drying out in Siberia and the Canadian Northwest Territory. Thawing permafrost can release stored carbon through the increased risk of fire. That will ADD to the CO2 in the upper atmosphere which reflects heat back to the Earth and our mid-latitudes.

I think it is naive to think that the overpopulation of this planet has no effect on it. Most people want their creature comforts and are not willing to make changes to help this planet. Just take a walk down the laundry aisle in the grocery store. Plastic all the way. Try to find detergent in a cardboard box anymore. We are destroying this planet.

sounding 01-19-2025 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2402679)
I think it is naive to think that the overpopulation of this planet has no effect on it. Most people want their creature comforts and are not willing to make changes to help this planet. Just take a walk down the laundry aisle in the grocery store. Plastic all the way. Try to find detergent in a cardboard box anymore. We are destroying this planet.

The climate narrative says destruction ... while the climate data says advancement.

Bill14564 01-19-2025 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402704)
The climate narrative says destruction ... while the climate data says advancement.

Finally, something we can agree on! Growing more food and feeding more people lowers the rate of famine! Good thing you had a graph for that, no one would have believed it otherwise. Now, what it has to do with plastic in the laundry aisle ....

jimjamuser 01-19-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2402566)
"Suffer the consequences"? .... so why are soooo many moving to Florida? We are approaching a climatic optimum -- thanx to global warming and increasing CO2.

Admitting that there is Global Warming and increasing CO2 is a step in the right direction. To solve a problem one must FIRST admit that there IS a problem. As to why so many are moving to Florida? that can ONLY be explained as group blindness and lack of knowledge. Personally, I have LOVINGLY counselled any and all that asked on TOTV to alter their plans to locate in Florida full time to try Georgia or the Carolinas. I also, have said that they will be fine and safe from HURRICANES if the have a 2nd house to go to up north during the 5 months of maximum chances of HURRICANES. last summer the Gulf and the Atlantic Ocean were at record temperatures, which are the engine that creates the recent KILLER HURRICANES. So I warn about summer in Florida. People ARE moving to Florida at too high a rate. Then they complain about not enough Doctors and too much road traffic. I tend to complain about them - too many people for the available resources. Notice that homes for sale are at INFLATED prices. Next summers HURRICANES could knock down many homes and make lots available at lower prices. The insurance companies know what I am saying is correct. That's why they are LEAVING Florida. The people just are NOT taking those HINTS.


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