ICE raid in the Villages!
 

Good. My grandparents came here legally so no sympathy for illegals

I heard more than 200 were detained.

Contractors
 

This will only affect contractors who hire undocumented workers. If contractors hire Americans then there won’t be any interruption in their services. I suspect it will be mostly construction that will be haunted by this. Since ICE hit the jackpot, they will be back for sure.

Homeland Security: Dozens of immigration arrests made in the Villages

Illegal aliens work in landscaping crews and restaurants as well as in construction so prepare for that.

In Wildwood said nothing about The Villages………..

There are videos all over FB of ICE and suspects (running away) in Middleton and/or Eastport.

Was in the Villages
 

It was in the Villages. 2 dozen were arrested, and almost 200 detained for further review.

Department of Homeland Security agents raided construction sites in The Villages on Tuesday as part of a nationwide sweep.

Special agents from Tampa participated in the roundup of about two dozen illegal aliens from Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras. It was noted that some of those arrested had been previously deported.

A lot of Turmoil
 

No matter, there is a lot of pain and suffering this evening for many families as they are deciding where to go. It was a needless act that inflicts pain on many families living in the nightmare. One thing is a big positive for most, The Villages is not a safe place for illegal immigrants any longer.

I posted this early this afternoon and that post disappeared?

Dam, glad we got a new roof recently. Without illegals I suspect there will be a shortage of people willing to do all the roofing work needed in the area.

Wow, not a good time to be in construction
 

Where will the workers come from to finish Eastport?

In case you are unaware, most of TV south of 44 is within the city of Wildwood.

It doesn’t matter
 

Several news sources tonight are reporting it was in The Villages.

90% of roofs didn’t need to be replaced anyway, just big scam. :oops: but, once one got free roof and told somebody else the flood gates was opened up. :crap2:

Someone told me about this about eight hours ago but I could not verify it. And where will we get people who do this work for the same wages as those sent wherever? These jobs will be very difficult to fill.

Well they should have come here legally or not at all.

Meanwhile, 90% of the arrests in TV are white people getting DUI's or their grandkids being caught with meth or beating their girlfriends while the "illegals" are too busy working on landscaping crews or building homes in TV to be involved with nefarious things.

Does not make any sense to me, either. Probably 95% of the Villagers ancestors came to America after 1800.

Before it was country and after Legally.

Yep, they have to fill them legally now at fair wage, until they go after the builders and especially subcontractors ( one hiring illegals illegally and taking advantage of them) nothing will be fixed.

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“Why are they not going after their employers also? Whoops the employers where red hats“

And you think they are only ones. Laugh of day.

Legally!

The original posts subject line was not inline with the article link it referenced which I read and made zero reference to “The Villages”. I am South of 44 and not a part of Wildwood. I guess the article referenced did not want to draw attention specifically to The Villages.

again...Homeland Security: Dozens of immigration arrests made in the Villages

Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw thousands of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Thing about the Europeans though - immigration wasn't tracked the way it is now. So MOST immigrants were what we now call undocumented, or "illegal." The government even created a process to make them permanent residents. If they were fleeing the war, fleeing persecution, fleeing for their lives - the American government helped them to legitimize their stay. But they had to be here "illegally" first.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

Well, mine came here legally from Sweden and Germany.

Where South of 44 are you not in Wildwood if you live in The Villages?

So, what is wrong with arresting drunk drivers, drug violators, and molesters? Those are illegal activities and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Even if they have families and work and are white. Sure, families will suffer and that is unfortunate. Do something "illegal" and suffer the consequence.

Compare that to "illegal immigrants". Shouldn't the same apply? The description "illegal" says they did not do immigration the right way: suffer the consequence.

What’s thousands to several million? A few.

They’re always going to be one’s that sneak In and they get caught depending on who’s in charge and what laws they want to enforce they get deported.

Probably the people living in Dabney do not pay a yearly city tax to Wildwood.

Our friends living in St. Catherine paid a yearly tax to Wildwood.

Mine came from Russia, Latvia, and Germany. But that was before they had the immigration laws that they have now. If they had come now, with the "documentation" they had then, they would be considered "illegal aliens" by some. Heck, they didn't even speak English when they got here, except maybe my grandmother's parents, who were of a somewhat higher class than the usual Russian peasants, and were therefore educated.

Go ahead and deport me. I'm an anchor baby's anchor baby's anchor baby. Third generation American, born from illegal immigrants. If you want to deport me please send me to France. I think I could enjoy my life in France, but I can't afford to go on my own.

Dabney is In Leesburg which is Lake County.

Will this impact housing prices?

And will employers be fined?

I have my family tree traced back to the 1600's. I have a direct descendant that "sneaked "(migrated) into America from Canada in the 1870's. Technically I'm retroactively an illegal here. I guess I'll just wait until ICE shows up at my door.

We’ve go to get them all out fast so we can make room for white South African immigrants who will need jobs but will definitely not be filling the construction and landscaping jobs.

It shouldn’t
 

It shouldn’t affect prices. Are you suggesting The Villages is being built by the abuse of illegal immigrants? Immigrant labor is being taken advantage of for illegal profit taking?

A contractor using illegal labor has a cap of 10 before fines of 10,000 per worker come into play. A contractor would be liable UNLESS they REGULARLY work for another for more than 30 days. If they are subcontracted by a larger entity, that entity assumes associated fines etc. Actual prosecution would be determined by worker and their weekly hours. Does the worker work 40 or more hours per week? is healthcare provided for…yada, yada, yada

Immigrants themselves of course could face SB 1036, 1451 and 1589 just under Florida laws. The outcome for them seems more harsh than for the employers.

Any employer who doesn't withhold the payroll taxes for any employee is violating the IRS, Social Security, and Department of Labor laws. These are Federal laws that have nothing to do with the the state of Florida. There is no 10 employee cap for these Federal laws.

I just want the whole mess to go away
 

I just want the whole mess to go away. None of this should even be happening.

And who do you think will be able to afford these houses that Americans get paid 5 times the pay to build? Not to mention where are these Americans that will do this kind of work or better yet know how?:shrug: