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jimmyinvillages 05-30-2025 10:03 AM

Why don't we have garbage bins in the Villages?
 
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you

Bill14564 05-30-2025 10:10 AM

I haven't had a plastic garbage bag leak yet in the seven years I've been putting trash out. There may have been three nights when I kept cardboard or paper lawn bags in the garage out of concern over rain. The current process seems to work very well.

The biggest problem with cans is bringing them back in. By 6:45 when the trash truck leaves my neighborhood there is nothing left along the street. That wouldn't be the case if we used cans, there would be cans and lids at the end of driveways or blowing down the road all day. Much, much better the way it is now.

Ruger2506 05-30-2025 10:10 AM

If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Garages are small enough, we don't need those big ass cans taking up room. And you know the HOA Karens will pitch a fit seeing cans left out.

Bogie Shooter 05-30-2025 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you

Waste of time to even consider……..

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-30-2025 10:30 AM

The crows won't pick the bags open if you wait til it's dark the night before, to put the bags out for the next morning's pickup. They usually do the scavenger thing in the early afternoon.

If you tie the bags tightly enough, the other critters in the area won't bother them either.

We have a trash can with wheels that we use to "store" our trash in. And then we wheel it to the curb, pull the bag out of the can, set it down on the curb, and wheel the empty can back under the carport up against the laundry shed, where it's completely out of sight to any neighbors passing by. That way we don't have to keep the smelly chicken or fish carcasses in the house for a few nights waiting for trash day if that's what we've cooked that week. The pizza box gets folded up and put in that can too, so it doesn't take up most of the room in our kitchen trash container.

Our trash guys will empty the can for us if we leave it out at the curb, but that's only because we don't abuse their generosity. They're not supposed to do that. They have warned others in the area that it wasn't allowed. I think we leave it out maybe once every few months, when we have a lot of grass clippings and yardwork waste that's too heavy for us to lift on our own.

We always use a can liner, so maybe they don't mind since they don't have to pick up the whole can, they just have to yank the filled liner out of it and swing it into the back of their truck.

bsloan1960 05-30-2025 10:34 AM

Everything here is well thought out. It's about clean streets that don't look like abandoned towns. In our previous state- Massachusetts- everyone had large plastic, lidded trash cans. Not everyone brought them back from the curb in a timely manner- Surprise! And not eveyone stored them out of sight. Drive down any street the day after trash day and you'll find the cans still on the curbs tipped over, in the street, or blown down the road. One of the benefits of living here is it's clean, uncluttered appearance. Have you noticed there is an absolute bare minimum of Road Signs here? Again, another thing that gives our area a clutter-free appearance.
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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you


kansasr 05-30-2025 10:34 AM

can't really say that this is a problem. not only isn't it high on my list, doesn't make the list at all

sounds like a northern problem

Eagles8 05-30-2025 10:45 AM

it is perfect the way it is...There would be trash cans all over the place...I've not seen 1 bag ripped open in 2 years here.
They pick up twice a week, there is no need for bulky ugly trash cans all over the place.

justjim 05-30-2025 10:48 AM

Trash cans
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2435130)
I haven't had a plastic garbage bag leak yet in the seven years I've been putting trash out. There may have been three nights when I kept cardboard or paper lawn bags in the garage out of concern over rain. The current process seems to work very well.

The biggest problem with cans is bringing them back in. By 6:45 when the trash truck leaves my neighborhood there is nothing left along the street. That wouldn't be the case if we used cans, there would be cans and lids at the end of driveways or blowing down the road all day. Much, much better the way it is now.

I agree. Never had even one issue with the way it works now.

Arctic Fox 05-30-2025 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagles8 (Post 2435148)
I've not seen 1 bag ripped open in 2 years here.

Really?

MikeVillages 05-30-2025 11:04 AM

I like the way it is now,.

Bassdeer 05-30-2025 11:07 AM

cans
 
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Originally Posted by Ruger2506 (Post 2435131)
If it isn't broke, don't fix it. Garages are small enough, we don't need those big ass cans taking up room. And you know the HOA Karens will pitch a fit seeing cans left out.

Nailed it on the Kanens.

bsloan1960 05-30-2025 11:10 AM

Your hierarchy of irritants was not elicited as part of this question. The fact that someone else has needs and problems that don't match yours is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2435144)
can't really say that this is a problem. not only isn't it high on my list, doesn't make the list at all

sounds like a northern problem


CFrance 05-30-2025 11:49 AM

What everybody in the positive corner said! Plus, bins scattered about are ugly; it's windy here, and people aren't always home to put them away. And I don't think those bins are more hygienic. They get dirty, and then you have to wash them.


We've been here 13 years and never had anything get into our garbage bags.

tophcfa 05-30-2025 12:27 PM

Faster for the collection crews not using the big bins.

MikeVillages 05-30-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagles8 (Post 2435148)
I've not seen 1 bag ripped open in 2 years here.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2435151)
Really?

We were concern at first but never had an issue over the years.

JohnN 05-30-2025 12:51 PM

I would hate to have my wife pushing a big bin out to the curb twice a week. Now she can make multiple trips when needed with the bags. Makes my back hurt thinking about her pushing that bin!

CFrance 05-30-2025 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2435141)
The crows won't pick the bags open if you wait til it's dark the night before, to put the bags out for the next morning's pickup. They usually do the scavenger thing in the early afternoon.

If you tie the bags tightly enough, the other critters in the area won't bother them either.

We have a trash can with wheels that we use to "store" our trash in. And then we wheel it to the curb, pull the bag out of the can, set it down on the curb, and wheel the empty can back under the carport up against the laundry shed, where it's completely out of sight to any neighbors passing by. That way we don't have to keep the smelly chicken or fish carcasses in the house for a few nights waiting for trash day if that's what we've cooked that week. The pizza box gets folded up and put in that can too, so it doesn't take up most of the room in our kitchen trash container.

Our trash guys will empty the can for us if we leave it out at the curb, but that's only because we don't abuse their generosity. They're not supposed to do that. They have warned others in the area that it wasn't allowed. I think we leave it out maybe once every few months, when we have a lot of grass clippings and yardwork waste that's too heavy for us to lift on our own.

We always use a can liner, so maybe they don't mind since they don't have to pick up the whole can, they just have to yank the filled liner out of it and swing it into the back of their truck.

Can liner... that's the part I don't like. Our neighbor in Michigan did this. First their trash went into a kitchen plastic bag, which then went into a huge trash can liner bag. All because they didn't want to have to clean their trash can, which was only filled with plastic bags anyway. Those huge can liners were much thicker than normal trash bags and just added more to the landfill.

If we have a mess of bones or fish carcass, we put it in reusable Snapware and freeze it till trash day. As there are just the two of us, we've never had to store a bag in the garage.

MarshBendLover 05-30-2025 01:58 PM

Added unnecessary weight for the sanitation worker to have to pick up, unnecessary time for worker to lift and return, people claiming damage to their precious can and lazy irresponsible owners leaving cans out days before and days after.

If you ever watch our sanitation workers, they walk, pick bag or two up, throw 20 feet into truck, then continue walking to next driveway. Quick and easy. You add in bins and costs rise in services and delays. You only needs bins in the lower economic areas.

Former city council Miami/Dade.

Old Traveller 05-30-2025 02:11 PM

I love the current system of picking up trash. So happy they stopped recycling and burn all the trash and recycling to generate electricity. They collect over 200 tons of metal after incinerating the trash. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Aces4 05-30-2025 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MarshBendLover (Post 2435214)
Added unnecessary weight for the sanitation worker to have to pick up, unnecessary time for worker to lift and return, people claiming damage to their precious can and lazy irresponsible owners leaving cans out days before and days after.

If you ever watch our sanitation workers, they walk, pick bag or two up, throw 20 feet into truck, then continue walking to next driveway. Quick and easy. You add in bins and costs rise in services and delays. You only needs bins in the lower economic areas.

Former city council Miami/Dade.

Garbage cans with back rollers can be wheeled to the curb and the truck with the hydraulic arm picks it up, dumps it, sets it down and moves to the next house. No worker's backs are involved.

That said, The Villages garbage handling is maximum service for the density here. It works well particularly with such a mobile population that can put their garbage at the curb, leave for home in Kansas early in the AM :duck:, and there is no worry about putting cans/containers back in the garage. I think TV got the garbage issue right!

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-30-2025 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2435206)
Can liner... that's the part I don't like. Our neighbor in Michigan did this. First their trash went into a kitchen plastic bag, which then went into a huge trash can liner bag. All because they didn't want to have to clean their trash can, which was only filled with plastic bags anyway. Those huge can liners were much thicker than normal trash bags and just added more to the landfill.

If we have a mess of bones or fish carcass, we put it in reusable Snapware and freeze it till trash day. As there are just the two of us, we've never had to store a bag in the garage.

We never do it that way. Our outdoor can is primarily for yard waste. I weed the flower beds a couple times every month, we trim the shrubs, etc. etc. We also put anything that would otherwise stink up the house in the can. The can sits in the carport, being slowly filled up, until it's almost full. MEANWHILE, we still do our weekly trash pickup. Often, we only need it once a week, not twice. So we save bigtime on bags that way.

Once the big can is almost full, we do a final sweep of the yard and empty the plastics and cardboard from the crate we used to use for recycling, and haul out the big can, plus whatever weekly trash is in the house.

Topspinmo 05-30-2025 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts


I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you


Cause they pick up twice week, no need for garage bins and different equipment to pick up bins which will only pick once week so have smell stitch. System works just fine.

Dotneko 05-30-2025 03:22 PM

No, no, a thousand times no. I dont want trash cans. They become a dirty, smelly, maggotty mess that needs regular scrubbing. I dont want them stored in my garage. I dont want to listen to cans banging as they go to every house.

BrianL99 05-30-2025 03:22 PM

There is one and only one reason, some areas (outside TV), use those huge plastic containers .... to automate (mechanize) the "pick up" process.

It's got nothing to do with mess, leaky bags, boxes or anything like that.

Don't worry, it will show up in The Villages in the near future. The world is phasing out manual labor of any sort.

Ruger2506 05-30-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2435235)
No, no, a thousand times no. I dont want trash cans. They become a dirty, smelly, maggotty mess that needs regular scrubbing. I dont want them stored in my garage. I dont want to listen to cans banging as they go to every house.

Right. Especially here. Any outdoorsman knows how bad they can get. I'll be finding out this August how bad alligator parts are in the trash.

ElDiabloJoe 05-30-2025 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you

Tell me you're new here and want to immediately change things so they're like they were "up north" without telling me you're new here.

There're are several very old coined terms for said behavior. They rhyme with carpet b@gger and yankee. There are some more political alignments as well, but that is a verboten topic on TOTV so we will not go down that road today.

Papa_lecki 05-30-2025 04:36 PM

A solution looking for a problem


Works great now. I really don’t want my neighbor storing their trash that hasn’t been washed in 3 year can outside, along their house, 10 feet from my house.

CarlR33 05-30-2025 04:40 PM

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No, up north we had the room in the garage or outside but not here. Then you had the HOA rule the cans could not be visible from the front of the home or street. BIG headache as I had to build a garden fence around mine to keep out of view. The only way it would work here is if the builder constructed a dedicated place outside the garage for the cans so not in view. I recently did a drive through of another community on the coast ironically on trash day and they had two cans (one for recycle and one for garbage) not just one. See attached picture.

kkingston57 05-30-2025 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you

Agree but better than the old system where in we used different colored bags for different items.

MrFlorida 05-30-2025 05:01 PM

Trash cans would be blowing around in the wind. People would leave them in the street all day. Its fine with bags.

Bjeanj 05-30-2025 05:24 PM

No thanks. I’m good with how we do it now, for the reasons noted above.

shaw8700@outlook.com 05-30-2025 05:54 PM

This sounds like a case of somebody taking the other side of an argument just to be stubborn. I like the way it’s done. In fact, I’m wondering why the powers that be haven’t adopted this method in their town. I believe TV should win an award for this!

DonH57 05-30-2025 07:06 PM

We've been here since 2013. Never had issues with animals getting into the bags or any other issues of leakage.

Dusty_Star 05-30-2025 07:29 PM

Jimmy,
I notice you may be new. I worried about critters when I was new, & I made an amonia spray to spray my bags & the inside of the bags where the tasty stuff (to the critters) might be. The neighbors told me they had no problems with critters getting into their trash bags, & I have not had to use the amonia spray because it is not needed. Now, if you are near a swamp area that might be different. I hope this link posts, it is a Florida street with a trash can race. Pretty funny, unless you are driving a golf cart.
https://www.facebook.com/sixto1/vide...22790977746257

Aces4 05-30-2025 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2435249)
Tell me you're new here and want to immediately change things so they're like they were "up north" without telling me you're new here.

There're are several very old coined terms for said behavior. They rhyme with carpet b@gger and yankee. There are some more political alignments as well, but that is a verboten topic on TOTV so we will not go down that road today.

I think he's from the west end of the country.:MOJE_whot:

Velvet 05-30-2025 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyinvillages (Post 2435128)
In any normal city garbage seems to be picked up in a civilized manner. You put your trash in your bin during the week, you wheel it out on trash pickup day, and the truck picks it up.

It is very antiquated and unhygienic how we have it here in the Villages. Leaving trash on the ground gets a crazy amount of bugs/rodents, and makes a soupy mess when it rains. It's also terrible for the crew to have to handle leaky dirty cardboard and trash bags flying around in the rain overnight.

Find My District - The Villages Community Development Districts

I recommend people find their CDD reps here and email them a simple request to modernize the system as I have done as well.

Thank you

You have it the wrong way around. The civilized way IS the way it is done in The Villages and the incompetent and lots of work and noisy way is the way it is done up north, in my megapolis too.

I am waiting when recycling by burning everything that can be burned and turning into electrical energy to lower our hydro bills is going to be DISCOVERED in the cities too. And garbage - all of it - is picked up twice a week like here, instead of once every 14 days!

There are no bugs or rodents on our bags especially if you use scented ones. Or you can spray Lysol if a renter next door, puts out food garbage because they don’t know how to use the garbage disposal (which is not allowed in my northern city because the ancient sewer system can’t handle it). Relax. I am sorry that you are panicking but you really don’t need to.

CoachKandSportsguy 05-30-2025 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2435249)
Tell me you're new here and want to immediately change things so they're like they were "up north" without telling me you're new here.

you took the typing right from beneath my fingers. .

Why do people want to change everything to like they were from whence they came. . if they want everything like from whence they came, maybe they shouldn't have come here in the first place.

JMintzer 05-30-2025 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com (Post 2435266)
This sounds like a case of somebody taking the other side of an argument just to be stubborn.

In other words, a typical day on ToTV... :loco:

jaj523 05-30-2025 10:00 PM

It's a whole lot quicker and easier for the garbage men. They don't have to pick up those heavy cans. And for all the reasons mentioned above.


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