Karen Read. Not Guilty but was she innocent?
 

One of the most controlversial trials in decades. If she was innocent then there is a fair amount of police corruption in MA. Multiple state police officers were punished. It was so egregious that the FBI was involved.

There were approximately 3000 people outside the courthouse when the verdict was read.
To me the evidence is overwhelming that she is INNOCENT but many believe she was guilty.
Karen Read cleared of murdering her Boston cop boyfriend sparking wild cheering outside court | The Independent

Death of John O'Keefe - Wikipedia Death of John O'Keefe - Wikipedia


I had not been following it.

Her lawyer did a great job. Let's see what happens in the civil trial.

One of the most amazing facts of the story was the O'keefe, a Boston police officer, was found dead on the front lawn of a fellow Boston police officer, Brian Albert. Despite the massive police investigation going on in front of his house for hours, he never walked out to see what was happening. Even more bizarre, the police never knocked on the door to search or seek witness testimony.

Yes, smells unusual.

Not surprised, Boston one of most corrupt cities in America. Leo brotherhood runs deep corruption and kickbacks. IMO suspect it was brotherhood take out?

But why? Covering up payoffs, bribes, drugs?

Just from a quick look at the above referenced article if I had been on the jury I would have found the wife innocent. Not enough solid evidence against her.

As you know with your background, the jury is not tasked with finding a defendant innocent. They have only one decision in a criminal trial, guilty or not guilty. Innocent does not equal not guilty. Not guilty only means the prosecution failed to meet the burden of proof of beyond a reasonable doubt. See Simpson, O J

I was answering the original post. The case against the lady was not there. And I thought OJ Simpson was anything but innocent but the prosecutor did not present a strong enough case. Same with Casey Anthony. But with this woman I would lean towards innocent from what is presented in the Wikipedia article.

There is no doubt in my mind she was innocent. The injuries on the deceased was not caused by a large SUV. Also the tail light was only slightly cracked as evidenced by video and witness testimony after the time of the crime. And no way were the horizontal gashes on the arm inflicted by a tail light. Also there was incontrovertible evidence that he entered the house from his iphone data.
And there was so much more.

I believe that some of the jurists at the first trial were of the mind that all police are honest and that their testimony should not be questioned.

Ahem. Reasonable Doubt! Jury dismissed.

About $4,000,000 was spent by the Commonwealth of MA.

All they proved, was John O'Keefe is dead and Karen Read was drunk, the night he died.

True in the eyes of the law. But considering the effect on future employment, it is far better to be perceived as innocent than the lower threshold of not guilty. OJ found that out.

In Massachusetts, they take "Back the Blue" to a much higher level.

John O'Keefe was a Boston Police Officer.

Curious that the Boston PD had little or no involvement in the trial ... they were conspicuously quiet about the whole situation.

Probably smart on their part. It is often hard to tell who is telling the truth in domestic violence situations unless there is very strong evidence.

The investigators did a terrible job handling this case. They zeroed in on Read instead of letting evidence lead them to their conclusion. Because of this the family will probably never get justice.

As well as others..
 

And you can add the Arkansas murder Sheriff and the Florida illegal Casino racketeering Sheriff to this list.

So many other bent Leos too.

Karen Read trial
 

This trial (or two, actually) was a travesty. If you are interested in it, watch the testimony or search the name of forner state trooper Michael Proctor and you will get a glimpse of police misconduct. He was fired specifically for his behavior in this case. Probably the shoddiest case of police investigation in history. Thank God the jury in the second trial was able to see through the smoke and mirrors that the Commonwealth presented. Very sad.

The McAlbert's kept saying O'Keefe was their good friend, but not one of them went to his funeral.

The family drank the kool-aid and is convinced that KR is guilty despite all the corruption and overwhelming amount of exculpatory evidence that she is innocent. I don't have any sympathy for the family except for the two kids he adopted.

I hope the okeefe family doesn’t file a civil case.
More heartache and expense for them….and the outcome will be the same.
A mysterious death and Karen Reade is guilty of DUI. But that won’t win a civil suit.

They took a blood sample about 9am the next morning. They can only prove she had a drink about midnight the night before. The blood test they took is not really valid, just an opinion . If he was hit by the car, why didn't have any broken bones, or even a bruise?

Not guilty means you won't hang, no matter what the general public thinks. Innocent is nice, but not guilty is critical. Jmho.

She and John were both drunk. She dropped him off at a house party. Then she went to HIS house waiting for him to call or come home (she was with his kids). She tried to call him several times but no answer. Those at the house party say he never arrived. That is to say he never came to the front door. Snow storm in progress with a lot of snow / ice on the ground. Drunk man slipped and fell. Either he was unconscious or he fell asleep in the snow. Death came as a result. There is no fault here (other than his own). Yes, she was angry with him for not coming home and leaving her with HIS kids. That is not the behavior of someone who is guilty. Tragic accident? Maybe. But, more likely, he is responsible for his own death.

Civil suit to follow. If she is found liable, she can just file for bankruptcy and forget about it. Time for her to liquidate her assets now in anticipation before there is a court order to prevent same.

My take: she is innocent. But the family can't accept the possibility that there is no one to blame (except John). So, they will sue "because they can".

Medical examiner outlines findings from John O’Keefe autopsy on the stand in Karen Read murder retrial - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News Medical examiner outlines findings from John O’Keefe autopsy on the stand in Karen Read murder retrial - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News


That does not fit the evidence.

I doubt she has any assets at this time. Her payday will be coming with more Netflix and book deals.

Just like OJ?:evil6:

Big city or small don’t matter money has power to corrupt, it’s been that way even since money was invented and somebody was in charge. under table kickbacks are crooks honey hole now days, It’s harder to trace. :shocked:

Two of the jurors have spoken in interviews. They both believe that Karen Read is innocent as well as not guilty.

This is fortunate for Karen Read since the O'Keefe family plans to file a lawsuit against her and the restaurant that served her drinks.

I hope that the FBI will followup and not only find the true murderers but also investigate the corruption in the state and city police starting with sabotage of the sally port videos and the willful negligence to conduct any interviews of people present at the house that night.

The civil case was filed over a year ago.

A judge granted a delay, as testifying in the Civil case, would have effectively taken away Read's 5th Amendment rights in the Criminal case.

If Karen Read wins the civil trial, then she can sue for some expenses but probably not the lawyer fees. I hope she can find some jurors willing to testify.

Negotiations will undoubtedly begin on Monday, to settle the wrongful death case.

I think the Plaintiffs have a better than 50/50 chance of winning, their burden is so low. Soon after the contracts are signed for the movie rights and cash is available, the Read team will be trying to buy themselves out of it.

Considering that Canton maybe the most corrupt town in the most corrupt state in the union, it is a possibilty they will win the civil suit.

But based on the jurors remarks and the facts laid out in the trial, Karen Read was proved without a shred of doubt that she was innocent.

Also here is how the Karen Read team found out who murdered him.
—just hours after Karen Read was arraigned—her attorney David Yannetti received an anonymous tip from someone claiming a law-enforcement background. The caller said that Brian Albert, his nephew Colin, and an unnamed federal agent had beaten Officer John O’Keefe to death inside the house and then dragged his body outside to the lawn
nypost.com
That caller turned out to be Steven Scanlon, a local private investigator. Although he later recanted parts of his story, Yannetti noted that “photos of O’Keefe hadn’t been released at the time of the first call. And other details lined up,” lending the tip some credibility
boston.com
Subsequently, Yannetti’s defense team expanded this narrative, naming Brian Albert, Colin Albert, and ATF agent Brian Higgins (not a DEA agent) as possible third-party perpetrators through what’s known as a “third-party culprit” defense

The defense strategy in the 2nd Read trial is known as the "Bowden defense".

The 1st trial used a derivation of the "3rd party culprit" defense. The judge in the 2nd case, limited their use of the 3rd party culprit defense, in her retrial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTPZKiyGfgA&t=30s

After two trials, I think the lawyers will be able to present an air tight case for Karen Read in the civil case. She had some damn good lawyers https://youtu.be/YuiI37P4dgY
But stupid people do make it on juries so injustice might prevail again.

I believe that if Proctor hadn't foolishly busted the tail light at the sally port and then planted the pieces in the front yard the verdict may have been different. This is because the defense had absolute proof that Karens tail light was illuminated and the red lens not completely smashed well after the alledged time of o'keefes death.

the jury slip options are not guilty, or guilty....or in totally corrupt massachusetts, at all levels including trials, some charges did not have a not guilty option. guilty was the only choice on charge 2 for Read. there was not a not guilty option. how corrupt is that?
as far as innocent? it was not an option for the jurors, so how can it even be considered at all?
total corruption at karen read trial, by the investigating state police, and canton police dept. and glaring corrupt judge cannone, who was a disgrace .....i have stronger description of this corrupt, non-qualified political appointed judge, but everyone knows what i am talking about...

I believe she was beyond drunk but innocent.

You are probably right. Had that been the only charge though she probably would have been able to successfully contest it since no formal DWI protocols were administered. She should be able to get a "hardship" drivers license within a couple of weeks from what I read. Big question is will she be able to find a great job like she had before.