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fraurauch 11-30-2011 07:15 AM

Morse Organization
 
Sometime ago, someone posted a link for the Morse organization and all the associated companies. It looked like a giant spider web. Does anyone remember that link? I was telling someone about it but couldn't remember how to get to it.

graciegirl 11-30-2011 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraurauch (Post 423713)
Sometime ago, someone posted a link for the Morse organization and all the associated companies. It looked like a giant spider web. Does anyone remember that link? I was telling someone about it but couldn't remember how to get to it.

Yes. That is really interesting to see how many things they are involved in!

I hope someone can find it, Frau!

Virtual Geezer 11-30-2011 08:14 AM

Here is the main link. http://www.corporationwiki.com/Flori...Directory.aspx

Now in the search bar enter the name of the person or company name you are looking for.

Standard disclaimer applies. I am not responsible for the hours you are going to spend on this great site searching on anything you can think of.

VG

fraurauch 11-30-2011 08:32 AM

Got it! Thanks.

graciegirl 11-30-2011 09:12 AM

I am not typing in the right link.

The one I was thinking of brings you directly to a series of boxes with all of the Morse conglomerate enterprises...i.e. Citizens Bank etc. etc. etc.

fraurauch 11-30-2011 09:20 AM

Gracie, try this --

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Flori...y-4063838.aspx

That will open up the chart and then you can click on the various icons to see how many companies there really are. Mind boggling.

jackz 11-30-2011 09:23 AM

Companies I found for Morse
 
President at Central Sumter Utility Company, LLC
at Clearlink Communication, L.L.C.
Director and President at Diversified Commercial Property Services, Inc.
Managing Member at H. Gary Morse Medical Ventures, LLC
Managing Member at Hgbb, LLC
President, Director and Chairman at Holding Company of The Villages, Inc.
at Insurance Agencies of The Villages, Inc.
Director and President at Lbcv, Inc.
Director and President at Legacy Golf & Country Club, Inc.
Director and President at Little Sumter Residual Company
Manager at Mmmp, LLC
Director and President at Musical Holdings, Inc.
President at North Sumter Utility Company, L.L.C.
President and Director at PM3, Inc.
Manager at Port Ferdinand 2, LLC
Manager at Port Ferdinand, LLC
Director, Secretary and Vice President at Properties of The Villages, Inc.
Manager at St. Peters Bay Holdings 2, LLC
Manager at St. Peters Bay Holdings, LLC
Managing Member at Sunset Silver Lake, LLC
Director at The Villages Family Company
at The Villages Health System Foundation, Inc.
President, Chairman and Director at The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc.
Chairman, President and Director at The Villages Operating Company
President at The Villages Water Conservation Authority, L.L.C
Director at Villages Bancorporation, Inc.
Director and President at Villages Equipment Company

graciegirl 11-30-2011 09:25 AM

Where are the other 12 pages? ;)

scrapple 11-30-2011 09:42 AM

Wow! How does he find the time? Or any of them for that matter!

janmcn 11-30-2011 12:00 PM

Morse family enterprises
 
Think of it this way: Everything you do from the time you get up in the morning until you go to bed at night, from the food you eat to the water you use to flush your toilet, the Morse family gets a cut. It's like living in an old mill town where the mill owner owned everything and let the workers live there as long as they abide by all the rules. Just pray that the Morse family doesn't get perped walked by the IRS out of here to the big house where Bernie Madoff resides.

Larry Wilson 11-30-2011 12:35 PM

Glad you said it janmcn. He's also a silent partner in some other organizations. I know because brother-in-law is a partner.
This is a group of cheerleaders on this site but many people are waking up. Its all PR. Now go pay that 60 thousand bond or whatever your bond is... that is hidden in the advertised price of your home.

Bogie Shooter 11-30-2011 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson (Post 423858)
Glad you said it janmcn. He's also a silent partner in some other organizations. I know because brother-in-law is a partner.
This is a group of cheerleaders on this site but many people are waking up. Its all PR. Now go pay that 60 thousand bond or whatever your bond is... that is hidden in the advertised price of your home.

Was there a bond on your home or maybe you don't live here???

graciegirl 11-30-2011 12:52 PM

.

Why would anyone think just because people are in business to make money and they DO make money and a LOT of money that they are criminals?

Free enterprise is the American way. That doesn't mean the Morses are saints but it doesn't mean they are sinners either.

I very much don't like you calling anyone who is not negative, a "Cheerleader", Larry. But in my case it is true

P.S. I knew the moment that I read Frau's original post that we would hear this stuff.

ilovetv 11-30-2011 12:56 PM

Here we go again.

Morses are republicans. Oprah is a democrat.

If Oprah built a community like this, I'd buy from her, too, but so far that hasn't happened.

I love what Morses have built and made available to purchase on our own free will.

The Shadow 11-30-2011 01:19 PM

The bad news is you can not buy publicly traded stock.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...nopoly-man.gif

fraurauch 11-30-2011 01:22 PM

I didn't mean to open up a can of worms. I was just looking for the link to pass on to someone else. Oh well!

graciegirl 11-30-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraurauch (Post 423881)
I didn't mean to open up a can of worms. I was just looking for the link to pass on to someone else. Oh well!

I think it is a good link Frau. An interesting link that shows this isn't a one horse town even if it is run by one horse. One very powerful stallion.

You certainly did not open a can a worms, Frau.

Hugs.:wave:

PennBF 11-30-2011 01:41 PM

I agree
 
Gracie Girl..I agree with you. They deserve the rewards for all they have given to the residents and I wish them all the best. We can't deny them
gaining from the fruits of their labor. How can anyone deny them and then in the second sentence say we live in "Paradise". People are fighting to come to The Villages !! :clap2:

BobKat1 11-30-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 423864)
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Why would anyone think just because people are in business to make money and they DO make money and a LOT of money that they are criminals?

Free enterprise is the American way. That doesn't mean the Morses are saints but it doesn't mean they are sinners either.

I very much don't like you calling anyone who is not negative, a "Cheerleader", Larry. But in my case it is true

P.S. I knew the moment that I read Frau's original post that we would hear this stuff.



Me too. It didn't take too many posts.

jblum315 11-30-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 423837)
Think of it this way: Everything you do from the time you get up in the morning until you go to bed at night, from the food you eat to the water you use to flush your toilet, the Morse family gets a cut. It's like living in an old mill town where the mill owner owned everything and let the workers live there as long as they abide by all the rules. Just pray that the Morse family doesn't get perped walked by the IRS out of here to the big house where Bernie Madoff resides.

Kind of silly. We are not workers. We are home owners.

mrfixit 11-30-2011 02:58 PM

....IMHO.....The ENTIRE Morse family deserves a BIG Thank You for providing us with such a WONDERFUL place in which to live...:bigbow:

ilovetv 11-30-2011 09:52 PM

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downeaster 12-01-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 424092)
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Sorry to hijack this thread but I frequently see replies such as "....." and have no idea what that means. Would someone please enlighten me. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with something posted?

Bogie Shooter 12-01-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 424256)
Sorry to hijack this thread but I frequently see replies such as "....." and have no idea what that means. Would someone please enlighten me. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with something posted?

It is called bumping. This brings the thread back up to the New Posts.

downeaster 12-01-2011 02:55 PM

Thanks Bogie Shooter. I am not keeping up with the times. I guess typing .... is easier than typing bump. I am too soon old, too late smart.

Bill-n-Brillo 12-01-2011 03:02 PM

Sometimes it'll be done if someone posts a reply then would choose to want to delete their post. No can do - software doesn't allow a member to do that. So some people will just Edit their post by wiping out all their prior typing and key in a couple of characters, just to satisfy the software's requirement of having SOMETHING typed in.

Bill :)

rubicon 12-01-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfixit (Post 423923)
....IMHO.....The ENTIRE Morse family deserves a BIG Thank You for providing us with such a WONDERFUL place in which to live...:bigbow:

Yea, they did it from the bottom of their hearts.:wave: Just ask the IRS.

Indy-Guy 12-01-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fraurauch (Post 423713)
Sometime ago, someone posted a link for the Morse organization and all the associated companies. It looked like a giant spider web. Does anyone remember that link? I was telling someone about it but couldn't remember how to get to it.



Perhaps these are the ones you are referring to.

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Flori...y-4063838.aspx

And this one

http://www.corporationwiki.com/Flori...e-6581769.aspx

Taj44 12-01-2011 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 424319)
Yea, they did it from the bottom of their hearts.:wave: Just ask the IRS.


good one Rubicon! chuckle, chuckle....

graciegirl 12-01-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 424348)

Bumpity bump bump

Advogado 12-04-2011 01:29 PM

Disclosure of the amount of the bond when advertising house prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Wilson (Post 423858)
Glad you said it janmcn. He's also a silent partner in some other organizations. I know because brother-in-law is a partner.
This is a group of cheerleaders on this site but many people are waking up. Its all PR. Now go pay that 60 thousand bond or whatever your bond is... that is hidden in the advertised price of your home.

It is surprising that some consumer-protection agency has not required prominent disclosure of the amount of the bond in advertisements quoting home prices.

Happinow 12-04-2011 04:17 PM

The Morse's seem to be involved in quite an empire. But they had to start somewhere. Case and point......there is a contractor where we live that owns a lot of our town, has at least 1000 rental properties (and is still building), owns an airport, airplane, etc. My mom was his nanny for his 2 small children 20 years ago. He started out as a general contractor building houses. He started small and built his empire. He lives in what looks like a 5000-6000 sq ft home on top of a hill that I can see from my house. That's what the Morse's probably did. It's a lot of work and a HUGE sacrifice in life. Some people are just wired to be entrepreneurs . I say as long as he does things legally, he deserves what he has. :spoken:

Dirigo 12-04-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 423905)
Kind of silly. We are not workers. We are home owners.

We are *customers* and the Morse family gives us what we want to buy and does a fantastic job of it. They have built something unique on the face of the earth and I feel darn lucky to finally be here.

I knew exactly what I was getting into when we bought here (thanks to TOTV). I know the Morse family makes lots of money, but when you build a better mouse trap you deserve to make lots of money.

I'm happy to see the depth of involvement of the Morse family. It means they are in charge.

I know someone who works for TV and with members of the Morse family. He tells me "making people's dreams come true" is job #1.

And no matter what your position is in the TV organization whenever a prospective buyer or a resident asks you a question, answering that person's question becomes your #1 job priority and you don't do anything else until that question is answered. I have experienced this first hand and it really happened with us.

The Villages employee dropped what he was doing and took a half and hour calling this person and that person until our question was answered to our satisfaction. Amazing. This wasn't a Sales Rep question either, it was *way* back office employee answering a technical question. I bet this guy only talks to a prospective buyer or homeowner once or twice a year. Based on that answer we bought a house. Our dream came true. He did his job.

Shop and play off-campus if you want to save some dough...we do...but when the day comes for us to hang up the car keys, we'll be delighted to be able to drive to shopping plazas in our golf cart and happy to pay a premium to do so.

I'm back in Maine working for the next two weeks and two days (not that I'm counting or anything), but I'll be home for our first Christmas in TV.

ilovetv 12-04-2011 06:37 PM

The complaints about Morse are, to me, a moot point.

Like everything else in this country, (except taxes), you can always "take it or leave it".

Nobody had a gun to our heads when signing a contract to buy here. In fact, we couldn't wait to sign and get our keys. Have never regretted it for even a second.

billethkid 12-04-2011 06:49 PM

I wonder if some feel the same negative way about the likes of Sam Walton....and using the negative method I will say...you know the guy who made multi-billions taking YOUR money at Walmart and Sam's!!!!
There must be something wrong that one man can do stuff like that and get away with it.

Ditto the guy who did Home Depot.

Or Bill Gates.

Just to name a few who are bigger than Morse....now just what did they do wrong....they all did it with your money....eh?

btk

Jim Straz 12-04-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirigo (Post 425429)
We are *customers* and the Morse family gives us what we want to buy and does a fantastic job of it. They have built something unique on the face of the earth and I feel darn lucky to finally be here.

I knew exactly what I was getting into when we bought here (thanks to TOTV). I know the Morse family makes lots of money, but when you build a better mouse trap you deserve to make lots of money.

I'm happy to see the depth of involvement of the Morse family. It means they are in charge.

I know someone who works for TV and with members of the Morse family. He tells me "making people's dreams come true" is job #1.

And no matter what your position is in the TV organization whenever a prospective buyer or a resident asks you a question, answering that person's question becomes your #1 job priority and you don't do anything else until that question is answered. I have experienced this first hand and it really happened with us.

The Villages employee dropped what he was doing and took a half and hour calling this person and that person until our question was answered to our satisfaction. Amazing. This wasn't a Sales Rep question either, it was *way* back office employee answering a technical question. I bet this guy only talks to a prospective buyer or homeowner once or twice a year. Based on that answer we bought a house. Our dream came true. He did his job.

Shop and play off-campus if you want to save some dough...we do...but when the day comes for us to hang up the car keys, we'll be delighted to be able to drive to shopping plazas in our golf cart and happy to pay a premium to do so.

I'm back in Maine working for the next two weeks and two days (not that I'm counting or anything), but I'll be home for our first Christmas in TV.

I agree, well said!

Challenger 12-04-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirigo (Post 425429)
We are *customers* and the Morse family gives us what we want to buy and does a fantastic job of it. They have built something unique on the face of the earth and I feel darn lucky to finally be here.

I knew exactly what I was getting into when we bought here (thanks to TOTV). I know the Morse family makes lots of money, but when you build a better mouse trap you deserve to make lots of money.

I'm happy to see the depth of involvement of the Morse family. It means they are in charge.

I know someone who works for TV and with members of the Morse family. He tells me "making people's dreams come true" is job #1.

And no matter what your position is in the TV organization whenever a prospective buyer or a resident asks you a question, answering that person's question becomes your #1 job priority and you don't do anything else until that question is answered. I have experienced this first hand and it really happened with us.

The Villages employee dropped what he was doing and took a half and hour calling this person and that person until our question was answered to our satisfaction. Amazing. This wasn't a Sales Rep question either, it was *way* back office employee answering a technical question. I bet this guy only talks to a prospective buyer or homeowner once or twice a year. Based on that answer we bought a house. Our dream came true. He did his job.

Shop and play off-campus if you want to save some dough...we do...but when the day comes for us to hang up the car keys, we'll be delighted to be able to drive to shopping plazas in our golf cart and happy to pay a premium to do so.

I'm back in Maine working for the next two weeks and two days (not that I'm counting or anything), but I'll be home for our first Christmas in TV.

Nice to hear- This will PO the conspiracy theorist among us

buggyone 12-04-2011 08:38 PM

Regarding the bond price not being shown in the home price, you would like to see, for example, Home for sale in Bridgeport at Laurel Valley, $679,985 plus $49,950 bond? Seems kind of silly to me. Everyone who researches The Villages knows of the bonds.

Personally, I did not want a large bond, so I bought a re-sale home and almost all of the bond had been paid off in previous years. Saved me at least $25,000 - and the house is great.

Taj44 12-04-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 425457)
I wonder if some feel the same negative way about the likes of Sam Walton....and using the negative method I will say...you know the guy who made multi-billions taking YOUR money at Walmart and Sam's!!!!
There must be something wrong that one man can do stuff like that and get away with it.

Ditto the guy who did Home Depot.

Or Bill Gates.

Just to name a few who are bigger than Morse....now just what did they do wrong....they all did it with your money....eh?

btk

You gotta be kidding, or else you should find someone else other than Sam Walton to make your point. Walmart has been accused of predatory pricing; Sam Walton bragged about how he took advantage of his workers paying them low wages and low benefits; a 2005 class action lawsuit in Missouri asserted approximately 160,000 to 200,000 people who were forced to work off-the-clock, were denied overtime pay, or were not allowed to take rest and lunch breaks....In the mid-1990s, Walmart had a "Buy American" campaign. Yet by 2005, about 60% of Walmart's merchandise was imported.

graciegirl 12-05-2011 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 425518)
You gotta be kidding, or else you should find someone else other than Sam Walton to make your point. Walmart has been accused of predatory pricing; Sam Walton bragged about how he took advantage of his workers paying them low wages and low benefits; a 2005 class action lawsuit in Missouri asserted approximately 160,000 to 200,000 people who were forced to work off-the-clock, were denied overtime pay, or were not allowed to take rest and lunch breaks....In the mid-1990s, Walmart had a "Buy American" campaign. Yet by 2005, about 60% of Walmart's merchandise was imported.

I had to look up what predatory pricing was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing


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