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Carmpat 11-06-2012 01:00 PM

Jehovah's Witness in Sanibel
 
Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

Madelaine Amee 11-06-2012 02:06 PM

Did you report this incident?
 
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Originally Posted by Carmpat (Post 577398)
Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

Did you report this incident to Community Watch, or anyone else? I am sure if TV knew they were out and about they would not be out and about around here for very long ...............

Russ_Boston 11-06-2012 02:08 PM

So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

Number 6 11-06-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 577437)
Did you report this incident to Community Watch, or anyone else? I am sure if TV knew they were out and about they would not be out and about around here for very long ...............

Oh, this gets better. A couple of weeks ago we called Community Watch to get them out of our neighborhood. We were told that CW could do nothing about it as they were not "soliticing". CW said that they could get in trouble if they said anything to them. Go figure.

buggyone 11-06-2012 02:22 PM

I would think that as long they are not asking for money, the Jehovah Witnesses would be allowed to knock on doors and try to convert people. The Mormons do this as a part of their ministry.

To "chase" them out of the neighborhoods would equate to religious intolerance. Do you want to be accused of living in a community that is intolerant of other people's religion? What next - skin color? I hope not.

justjim 11-06-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577438)
So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

:coolsmiley: I agree that I see no big problem---"not interested---you have a good day and close your door".

Golfingnut 11-06-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 577454)
I would think that as long they are not asking for money, the Jehovah Witnesses would be allowed to knock on doors and try to convert people. The Mormons do this as a part of their ministry.

To "chase" them out of the neighborhoods would equate to religious intolerance. Do you want to be accused of living in a community that is intolerant of other people's religion? What next - skin color? I hope not.

Very funny.

Patty55 11-06-2012 02:49 PM

Century Link has come to my house soliciting three times, I'd prefer the JW.

NotGolfer 11-06-2012 03:04 PM

I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs!

NotGolfer 11-06-2012 03:06 PM

I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs! Oh, we also did call Community Watch and we got a positive response...that they'd take care of it. We'd do the same with the Mormon's or any other individuals....it's not discrimination....it's just telling them you're not interested.

cquick 11-06-2012 04:02 PM

Just thank them and shut the door.

raynitsche 11-06-2012 04:17 PM

Religious organizations are exempt from soliciting
laws. New York State that is

Serenoa 11-06-2012 04:21 PM

Without opening the door, yell out that you're nudists......and then watch them running back to the street!

Works every time......

2BNTV 11-06-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 577529)
Without opening the door, yell out that you're nudists......and then watch them running back to the street!

Works every time......

:1rotfl:

2BNTV 11-06-2012 04:30 PM

Thanks but no thanks would be my response.

I don't believe in intolerance towards other religions but I don't want someone telling me what I should believe either.

gomoho 11-06-2012 04:34 PM

Sorry, but I don't want anyone knocking on my door that I am not expecting and think
Community Watch should chase them out of here. Religious intolerance - please - we probably have more religious diversity in here than we could know what to do with. Someone even goes by the name of "redwitch".

JoeC1947 11-06-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577438)
So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

I disagree. It is a problem for some folks to answer the door not to mention all the political phone calls. I got a call from Pat Boone, Bruce Springsteen and Mitt Romney and about a thousand calls from the RNC.

graciegirl 11-06-2012 04:48 PM

hmmmm.

Golfingnut 11-06-2012 04:55 PM

I find it very intolerant for anyone to knock on my door with a suggestion that my religion will have me burning in hell and ask me to change. I will not knock on your door and I DEMAND that you do not knock on mine if you intend to tell me I am going to hell for what I believe in.

AJ32162 11-06-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 577474)
Century Link has come to my house soliciting three times, I'd prefer the JW.

Is the JW TV/Phone/Internet bundling price any less? I'm thinking of switching.

Golfingnut 11-06-2012 05:51 PM

[QUOTE=JoeC1947;577536]I disagree. It is a problem for some folks to answer the door not to mention all the political phone calls. I got a call from Pat Boone, Bruce Springsteen and Mitt Romney and about a thousand calls from the RNC.[/QUOT\\\

Thats interesting, none of them called me.

:1rotfl:

Patty55 11-06-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 577546)
I find it very intolerant for anyone to knock on my door with a suggestion that my religion will have me burning in hell and ask me to change. I will not knock on your door and I DEMAND that you do not knock on mine if you intend to tell me I am going to hell for what I believe in.

Whoa, they told you that?

kentucky blue 11-06-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 577456)
:coolsmiley: I agree that I see no big problem---"not interested---you have a good day and close your door".

We had a nanny for our 3 children, that was a JW.Dawn worked for us for over 20 years, and left only after our youngest went off to college.She was a wonderful person,who only on a rare occasion would leave literature for me to read,never trying to convert the wife,kids or myself.We almost decided to have another child just to keep her around.Lexington has a large congregation of JW,who do come by the neighborhood and try to drop off their literature.You just politely tell them your not interested,and they go on their way,how difficult is that? Glad i live in a neighborhood that is very accepting of others, and has tolerance for all religions. Over the years i've used several JW,who were friends of Dawn,to work on my apartment buildings,NEVER had a problem.

Patty55 11-06-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AJ32162 (Post 577557)
Is the JW TV/Phone/Internet bundling price any less? I'm thinking of switching.

It's a pretty good deal, but no Holiday programming.:1rotfl:

perrjojo 11-06-2012 06:13 PM

Religious, charitable and political solicitation is exempt from door to door solicitation rules, just as they are exempt from having to abide by the"Do not call " registry.

goodgrief 11-06-2012 06:37 PM

Well, let's put a completely different spin on this. They (assuming of course) they don't live here. They are going door to door bothering folks. This is a "gated" community. (yes use the term loosely) I see no issue with CW having them leave the area. And why aren't the gate guards asking non residents business in the area instead of waving them on through?? Nothing to do with religion. I look out the window and if its someone I'm not expecting or know I won't answer it. On another note I think someone also posted once there was some place you could call to have your address removed from the "visitation" list. I think if CW gets hit with enough phone calls they will have to do something.

uujudy 11-06-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 577577)
It's a pretty good deal, but no Holiday programming.:1rotfl:

Hahahaha! :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Down Sized 11-06-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 577490)
I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs! Oh, we also did call Community Watch and we got a positive response...that they'd take care of it. We'd do the same with the Mormon's or any other individuals....it's not discrimination....it's just telling them you're not interested.

My how things change in two years. Just wait until the next two!

janmcn 11-06-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgrief (Post 577592)
Well, let's put a completely different spin on this. They (assuming of course) they don't live here. They are going door to door bothering folks. This is a "gated" community. (yes use the term loosely) I see no issue with CW having them leave the area. And why aren't the gate guards asking non residents business in the area instead of waving them on through?? Nothing to do with religion. I look out the window and if its someone I'm not expecting or know I won't answer it. On another note I think someone also posted once there was some place you could call to have your address removed from the "visitation" list. I think if CW gets hit with enough phone calls they will have to do something.

The gate guards are not allowed to block anybody from entering because the county maintains the roads. That's the deal the developer worked out with Sumter county years ago when the county wanted the gates removed. They are public roads and therefore the public has access to them. The gates are just for show.

Russ_Boston 11-06-2012 08:47 PM

Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

superuke 11-06-2012 09:26 PM

I just love knocking on J.W. doors on Haloween, they don't like it when I knock on their door!

USSGompers 11-06-2012 09:30 PM

We have a webcam in our window and once someone comes into our driveway/front door- we see them. The UPS/FedEx drivers are Always welcome.

Everyone else-

Not so much. Knock if you want. You may there for awhile!!

kentucky blue 11-06-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577635)
Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Defining it another way.............................Someone who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.One who treats members of a group with intolerance.

Geewiz 11-06-2012 10:14 PM

Welcome them in...tell them you've been very lonely since "Little Skippy" died and to ease your emotional pain you had to resign yourself to constant self-abuse, but now that they are there you can rely on their emotional and physical support. Then start hugging...crying..kissing...and warning them about your infections. Enjoy!

Indydealmaker 11-06-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577635)
Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Russ, This must represent an outbreak of In-grown Bubble Syndrome. Not usually fatal, but results in temporary Life Perception Lesions on the frontal lobe and Tolerance Leakage at the base of the brain.:1rotfl:

lovesports 11-06-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Geewiz (Post 577671)
Welcome them in...tell them you've been very lonely since "Little Skippy" died and to ease your emotional pain you had to resign yourself to constant self-abuse, but now that they are there you can rely on their emotional and physical support. Then start hugging...crying..kissing...and warning them about your infections. Enjoy!

LOL I love your sense of humor!

gamby 11-07-2012 02:19 AM

Reply
 
You do not have to fear the witnesses they only wish to offer you information in the Bible; If you kindly say no thank you they will leave. You also can ask them to be put on a do not return list.

Of interest
They are the most honest and moral people I have ever meet. They believe in God and practice Bible teachings 24 hours a day every day not just a few hours on Sunday. I have never been asked for a dime and never pressured to do anything .


There are a lot of misinformation in these posts and I see many are afraid the witnesses are going to brainwash or something like that, This is totaly false. They only hope to offer what"'s in the Bible.

Last time I looked there are over 110,000 congerations worldwide.


Hell fire: information for above post

▪ In the Gospel accounts, Jesus warns his disciples against suffering the judgment of Gehenna. Obviously, Jesus intended that the warning be taken seriously. However, was he referring to a burning hell of everlasting torment?—Matthew 5:22.
First, let us look at the word itself. The Greek word Ge′en·na corresponds to the Hebrew geh Hin·nom′, meaning “valley of Hinnom,” or more fully geh veneh-Hin·nom′, “valley of the sons of Hinnom.” (Joshua 15:8; 2*Kings 23:10) This geographic site, known today as Wadi er-Rababi, is a deep and narrow valley located to the south and southwest of Jerusalem.
In the times of the kings of Judah, from the eighth century B.C.E., this location was used for pagan rites, including the sacrificial burning of children in fire. (2*Chronicles 28:1-3; 33:1-6) The prophet Jeremiah foretold that the same valley would become the place of slaughter for Judeans at the hands of the Babylonians in judgment from God for their wickedness.—Jeremiah 7:30-33; 19:6,*7.
According to the Jewish scholar David Kimhi (c.*1160-c.*1235*C.E.), the valley was later transformed into a garbage dump for the city of Jerusalem. The place served as an incinerator where fires were kept burning to dispose of rubbish. Anything thrown into this dump would be completely destroyed, turned into ashes.
Many Bible translators have taken the liberty of rendering Ge′en·na “hell.” (Matthew 5:22, King James Version) Why? Because they associated the pagan-inspired notion of an afterlife of fiery judgment for the wicked with the physical fire in the valley outside Jerusalem. Jesus, however, never associated Gehenna with torment.
Jesus knew that the very thought of burning people alive is repugnant to his heavenly Father, Jehovah. Referring to the use made of Gehenna in the days of the prophet Jeremiah, God said: “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” (Jeremiah 7:31) Moreover, the idea of torment for the dead conflicts with God’s loving personality as well as with the Bible’s clear teaching that the dead are “conscious of nothing at all.”—Ecclesiastes 9:5,*10.
Jesus used the term “Gehenna” to symbolize the utter destruction resulting from God’s adverse judgment. Hence, “Gehenna” has a meaning similar to that of “the lake of fire,” mentioned in the book of Revelation. Both symbolize eternal destruction from which no resurrection is possible.—Luke 12:4,*5; Revelation 20:14,*15.
[Footnote]
Commenting on this prophecy, the New Catholic Encyclopedia says: “In the destruction of Jerusalem so many of its inhabitants would be killed that their corpses would be cast, unburied, into the valley to rot or be burned.”

God does provide for an earthly paridise; not a firery place to be burned forever.

BritParrothead 11-07-2012 05:00 AM

we have many J W and Mormons here where we live. TheMormon boys are always so polite and very nice kids. The JW come in couples, with children in tow. Both, always seem to come at the 'wrong' time! i.e. in the shower, on the phone etc. The worst time was when we lived in London, the JW's turned up on Christmas day, just as we were sitting down to dinner!! NOT amused.

paulandjean 11-07-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmpat (Post 577398)
Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

The first words are "Beware" of the Jehovah Witnesses. Wow, almost spilled my coffee.This is Florida Friendliness City.

senior citizen 11-07-2012 07:24 AM

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