Urgent message from Stonecrest to The Villages !!!
 

I'm currently running a dog club in the community of Stonecrest called Waggin Tails Of Stonecrest. Our goal is to obtain a secured area for our dogs . We currently have a dog walk that runs along side your fence line in Spanish Springs. The Villages homes are very close to our fence line perhaps 10 feet or more and has caused a lot of problems. For instance the noise, feces, urine and most importantly the children who play in the back yard of their grandparents home. I have personally urged our POA to relocate to a better area behind a ball field and to fence it in. (also to padlock it when a game is playing).
Personally I wouldnt want a dog run behind my yard , so I understand The Villages residence concerns. We inquired how The Villages were able to obtain a dog park and to much of our surprise is that The Villages does not own them but lease the property. Sadly I was informed that the community of Stonecrest property insurance would drop them if they were to open a dog park. I really need to talk explain to the POA the seriousness of this matter. We have been chased away with water, food waste, guns, bodily harm and I have tried my best to mediate these problems in a friendly manner and its not easy. Our membership has grown fairly large, and have sponsered food drives and social gatherings and have articles in the The Villages Sun Times. I have a web site called Stonecrestflorida.com with videos. I hate to say this but I failed my community to keep all of us safe. Hopefully, The Villagers will forgive me in this matter and I will soon try to remedy this situation.

Hellooo, is this real? How do Stonecrest residents, a mile or more away on the other side of 441, have access to a area they can use as a dog walk next to Spanish Springs homes?

:ohdear: OK, I'll bite. Probably just another doggie poop thread :popcorn:

Honestly. I think instead of investing in a tiny home lot in a golf community, some dog owners should invest in 40 acres somewhere where their dog(s) can run and be free 24/7/365.

Thank you

Thank you

I don't know what's "unintellectual" about it. Unless you own your own land, you cannot do what you want using somebody else's land or community-owned land.

Thank you

Please,this is a health issue.

There is a 3 year old baby still in diapers playing in the dirt with his hands along the fenceline where dog feces and urine have been. He has been playing there almost everyday. This is located in The Villages. I'm concerned. His hand reaches through the fence to pet the dogs and he is by himself unsupervised!!.

Oh my how uncivil this discourse. Shame on us inhumans.
Splintered, warring, tribal, angry...

Dear Silvertoken, I appreciate your allegiance to pets. I am offended by the neglect of grandchildren playing in pooh. Clearly, children trump pets...? Your issue is pets, not the children? I'm confused by your blaming some authority for not giving animals rights while children are neglected?
Help me out here. I've worked child protection extensively and own and am owned by a thrice abandoned boxer, who, by the way is too precious to me to have romping in an unknown pack. that's my bias, but I am..
sincerely confused,
Kitty

Dear Silvertoken, just so you are informed, You could be prosecuted for knowing about child abuse and not reporting.http://www.myflfamilies.com/service-.../abuse-hotline child abuse is a serious allegation to make. Please be sure of your information before reporting and please do report if you are concerned.
Kitty
ps if the links don't work go to myflfamilies.com

Thank you for the information.

Thanks for your comment.

Dear Silvertoken, just so you are informed, You could be prosecuted for knowing about child abuse and not reporting.http://http://www.myflfamilies.com/s.../abuse-hotline
child abuse or neglect is a serious allegation to make. Please be sure of your information before reporting.
Kitty

please reply with text for me to read.

Yes , and Thank you

for the record, I love the animals, but children excel in importance. It seems to me you are pleading for a cause to get the animals a place to go so their excretions are not consumed by children?
Please tell me that is not so! The first consideration is to protect the children.
yes?
Kitty

I will, Thanks.

maybe you can point out where I missed something on the blog. I'd be grateful. what I read says basically we are walking our dogs and they excrete right behind your houses where your grandchildren play in our dog poop so THEREFORE we should get another place for our dogs to poop.
Tell me, please that I am reading this wrong...I love my puppy, but she's not allowed to poop on a baby's turf.
Kitty

Yes children are a priority.

No, I can't make any sense at all of what you meant.

We try to help our community Waggin Tails Of Stonecrest Food Drive - YouTube

I don't think you are evil, but please don't post about children being abused as a way to promote your cause, as if the cause of the children was secondary to your cause.
Kitty

Sorry

Trying to form a club,
Stonecrest Florida Waggin Tails - YouTube
April 5, 2013 - YouTube
doggiestars - YouTube
Always finding a place to have fun. Unfortunately I made a mistake picking the area.

There is a power company a Right-of-Way which separates Stonecrest from The Villages.

This Right-of-Way is at least 50 feet wide.

This Right-of-Way does NOT belong to Stonecrest.

Stonecrest residents are TRESSPASSING when using this Right of Way.

Fence referred to as "your fence" is on The Villages side of the Right-of Way.

Said fence would therefore be at least 50 feet beyond Stonecrest property.

How would you feel if Villagers walked their dogs ON said Right-of-Way,
behind the Stonecrest outdoor pool.
(your pool near the corner of SE 176th Loop and SE 125th Circle.)

Residents of The Villages would not use this Right-of Way for a doggy bathroom near your community pool.......
......PLEASE ...........we would appreciate this Right-of-Way
not being used for a doggy bathroom behind the homes in The Villages.

Common Courtesy dictates that NO ONE should use this Right-of Way
for a doggy bathroom.

I appreciate your concern for your furry friends. :ho:
I do hope your dilemma can be resolved in an expedient and mutually desirable fashion.

Thank You...and all Stonecrest residents for your anticipated cooperation.

We are property encroaching. Seems to be legal in Florida

It appears to me that Stonecrest has an ongoing issue with their own POA and are asking The Villages to intervene in coming up with a solution for them. Sounds like a dream for the Media to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Florida old codgers fight over property boarders. This is absolutely a situation where people have too much free time to stir the pot. I for one have full confidence that The Villages is smart enough not to get legally involved in this silly issue. I also have great sympathy for the Villagers on the boarder of what is obviously not a proper dog walking area. I do agree also that making child neglect allegations and not reporting it is a crime in itself. Seeing a child unattended playing in dog Pooh is at minimum an issue that should involve law enforcement.

I am thoroughly confused. Where exactly is the dog run (maybe highlighted on Google Maps?).

I can understand a homeowner objecting to a slew of dogs being walked by her home constantly, especially since not all owners are conscientious enough to pick up after their dogs. However, if you're being sprayed with water, having food thrown at you, being threatened with a gun, it is time to call the sheriff's department when this occurs (not when you get home, but right then and there). If nothing else, always walk in pairs and have one available to record these incidents. You're talking about a situation that can easily get out of control quickly with tragic results.

As to the grandchild, has anyone told the homeowner what is occurring or suggesting to the grandparent the dangers of the child's actions? Sounds like someone isn't paying a lot of attention to what the little one is doing in the back yard and may truly not be aware.

I am surprised to hear that Stonecrest does not have a dog park for its beloved pooches and sincerely hope you get one soon. It seems like such a basic necessity to me. Maybe you could start a protest -- have all dog owners that want a dog park protest the lack thereof by picketing (with doggies, of course) by the homes of your POA officers (and I'm only half kidding)?

It does appear that may be the best solution, let it go. Border wars is not what I had in mind.

Thanks, and yes there could be tragic results. I have warned some of the dog owners to stay away from certain areas.

This is what you said: There is a 3 year old baby still in diapers playing in the dirt with his hands along the fenceline where dog feces and urine have been. He has been playing there almost everyday. This is located in The Villages. I'm concerned. His hand reaches through the fence to pet the dogs and he is by himself unsupervised!! I have names of all the complaints from The Villages also.

What several of US are trying to tell you, is that is at a minimum Child Neglect. It appears from your statement that you did not notify the police. Were trying to tell you that is is any citizens responsibility to report any crime especially when a child is involved.

I have delt with the sherriffs dept with simular issues, you have to be very careful what you say.

Somebody who is good with maps, find this section of land and show us where it is. Children of that age are NOT allowed to live in the villages. Randy, you can call and report that to The Villages deed restrictions if it is worrying you. I don't know why The Villages would involve themselves in this issue concerning Stonecrest's POA. Back to the child, three year old kids don't stand by fences and play with dog poop. Their attention spans are very short, they may stick their hands through the fence to pet the dogs which is dangerous, but they would be doing other things, anyone who has had a kid or grandkid knows that is not too likely that time after time a little kid wouldn't be fixated on hands through the fence. It is hard not to think that some of the things posted about the problem are exaggerated a little. If I had a dog and this was bothering me I would walk it someplace else. It appears this is not a fenced in dog park but an area that has been used for dogs on leashes to relieve themselves?

Is this area fenced in?

Is this area adjacent to Orange Blossom Hills northeast of 441?

If this is an easement, to whom is it deeded?

Is this the area? http://mapq.st/17alekS

I will say it before Gracie does: BOY HOWDY

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Its the second house bottom left.

Are you saying that people walk their dogs in this area and they don't pick up after the dogs? The dog parks in TV require you to pick up after your dog(s). That may be one of the underlying issues with your community NOT wanting to operate a dog park. Can you imagine a confined area with dogs unleashed running and pooping and the owners not cleaning up after their animals? I can't imagine just letting dogs poop against someone's property line and just leaving it there especially knowing that one particular spot can be touched by a small child. Sorry silvertoken, it sounds like you are barking up the wrong tree trying to get help from TOTV.

Yes like the Villages and anywhere else, there are good folks and bad folks that clean up the pooh, my club has been picking up others pooh and ours. Dogs normally do their business along the fence line for some reason, instinct? Fence line has also been sprayed with a chemical to prevent plant growth. This child has toy trucks and cars in this location, he has also thrown chunks of this debri at the people and dogs. Kid will be kids and will do such things but Im very worried this poor child may get infected.