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Rainger99 01-16-2023 10:04 AM

Climate change speech
 
Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

threeonemiles@outlook.com 01-16-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2176420)
Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

Excellent speech. Konstantin Kisin is speaking the truth. Sadly, speaking the Truth is now called hate speech.

Bay Kid 01-17-2023 08:27 AM

Global cooling, global warming, ahh just call it climate change. Send your money to save the world as they get on their jets and in their limos to preach what we are doing wrong.

It's all about the money.

manaboutown 01-17-2023 08:49 AM

Somebody sent me a link to that speech. I watched it twice. He is correct.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2176420)
Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

The title for that link is -- Konstantin Kisin | This House Believes Woke Culture Has Gone Too Far - 7/8 | Oxford Union

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2176420)
Excellent talk on climate change. It is from the Oxford Union Society debates on January 12, 2023.

https://youtu.be/zJdqJu-6ZPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quhtqsxdCG0

This is one of climate change. Konstantin Kisin Viral Speech About Global Warming And Climate Control

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 11:49 AM

I watched that. A lot of over-generalizations and poor logic.

Keefelane66 01-17-2023 01:06 PM

If it’s a debate where are the other opinions presented. It does sound good if it supports one beliefs

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2176790)
If it’s a debate where are the other opinions presented. It does sound good if it supports one beliefs

It is basically an appeal to emotion with little reasoning behind it. Only the poor can solve the Global Warming problem and especially those with no indoor plumbing. Right? How does that follow? It is almost like the comedian is pulling our leg as the reasoning is so out of Alice in Wonderland.
LOL.

Bill14564 01-17-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2176815)
It is basically an appeal to emotion with little reasoning behind it. Only the poor can solve the Global Warming problem and especially those with no indoor plumbing. Right? How does that follow?

That isn't what I took away from it, neither the appeal to emotion or that only the poor can solve Global Warming.

What I heard is that the countries that will need to make changes to solve global warming are the poorest of the countries. These countries need energy in order to survive but don't have the money to afford the luxury of clean energy. Because they are poor they will have to make the choice of putting food on the table and surviving or buying into clean energy. It is defies logic to think that they will choose clean energy over survival.

The solution then is not to whine about the England or the US doing more and it is not to expect China or Russia or Central America to give up on fossil fuels or force them to do that. The solution is not to sit and complain but to research and develop inexpensive clean energy sources.

That's what I took away from the video.

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2176821)
That isn't what I took away from it, neither the appeal to emotion or that only the poor can solve Global Warming.

What I heard is that the countries that will need to make changes to solve global warming are the poorest of the countries. These countries need energy in order to survive but don't have the money to afford the luxury of clean energy. Because they are poor they will have to make the choice of putting food on the table and surviving or buying into clean energy. It is defies logic to think that they will choose clean energy over survival.

The solution then is not to whine about the England or the US doing more and it is not to expect China or Russia or Central America to give up on fossil fuels or force them to do that. The solution is not to sit and complain but to research and develop inexpensive clean energy sources.

That's what I took away from the video.

They are doing that all over the world. Looking for solutions to the pressing problem of global warming for people in all countries.

Still think that the comedian is following Jonathan Swift and proposing absurd
solutions.

Rainger99 01-17-2023 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2176790)
If it’s a debate where are the other opinions presented.

As requested, if you want the other opinions, see the Oxford Union’s YouTube channel.

I will say the arguments are presented far more eloquently at Oxford than in most other forums.

OxfordUnion - YouTube

Bill14564 01-17-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2176823)
They are doing that all over the world. Looking for solutions to the pressing problem of global warming for people in all countries.

Still think that the comedian is following Jonathan Swift and proposing absurd
solutions.

Is throwing soup and flour on art part of looking for solutions to the pressing problem of global warming?

I just re-watched the video for the third time. The ONLY solution I heard presented was to work and to build and to create a source of energy that is not only clean but is cheap. Our opinions clearly differ because that doesn't seem absurd to me.

JMintzer 01-17-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2176821)
That isn't what I took away from it, neither the appeal to emotion or that only the poor can solve Global Warming.

What I heard is that the countries that will need to make changes to solve global warming are the poorest of the countries. These countries need energy in order to survive but don't have the money to afford the luxury of clean energy. Because they are poor they will have to make the choice of putting food on the table and surviving or buying into clean energy. It is defies logic to think that they will choose clean energy over survival.

The solution then is not to whine about the England or the US doing more and it is not to expect China or Russia or Central America to give up on fossil fuels or force them to do that. The solution is not to sit and complain but to research and develop inexpensive clean energy sources.

That's what I took away from the video.

^^^ What he said^^^

Taltarzac725 01-17-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2176829)
Is throwing soup and flour on art part of looking for solutions to the pressing problem of global warming?

I just re-watched the video for the third time. The ONLY solution I heard presented was to work and to build and to create a source of energy that is not only clean but is cheap. Our opinions clearly differ because that doesn't seem absurd to me.

They are doing that. Working on cheap solutions along with many others.


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