You no longer can take a "field" trip, since the word field was banned by the USC social work college as "racist". You may however call it a "practicum trip":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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From your numbers, the temperature rose approximately 0.07 degrees fahrenheit per century. The data I can find shows the temperature rising at about 1.4 degrees fahrenheit per century since 1880 (about 2 degrees total).

I searched on "temperature rise over last 120 years" to find the data I used, what did you use to find data that showed much less than a 0.07 degree increase?


Discussing sea level rise will take more time than I am willing to spend. Some data points I found:
- The 432ft rise was from 21,000 years ago to about 3,000 years ago
- At the end of the 432 ft rise the seas were at their current level which means there was a great deal more ice to melt in those 18,000 years than there is now
- While 8" over 120 years seems correct it is important to know that half of that was over the last 30 years indicating the rate of sea level rise is increasing
- The seas will not rise another 432 ft (not enough ice) but at a rate of more than one foot per century and increasing, sea level rise could be a big problem not too long from now

"Practicum" sounds nasty to me. Like some body part one should not mention in polite company. I ban it in favor of "journey of investigation".

Great post......there IS more to an article than the headline, especially scientific articles. Seems that some people quote only what agrees with their point of view. And I would like to know the WHY behind the spreading of misinformation. One thing.....I notice is that the older demographics-types here in TV Land seem to respond well to propaganda that they are getting from SOME source. I also wonder WHAT source?

I bet you could make a really good guess.

Sea level rise is not a problem for those who study past climates -- which shows seas naturally go up and down. History shows that those who choose to live in Mother Nature's sand box (the seashore) during sea level rise will eventually suffer. Here's more on climate history ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=folh5yyFyl8

Well, whether it be a 10,000 or 18,000 year period to rise 432 feet, I'm sure in those 100-180 centuries there were periods where the rise was more in a 30 year period than the other 70, which of course means that an increase in the rate of rise was followed by a decrease. Again, we are talking hundreds of thousands of year cycles over the last 4 1/2 million years of the current ice age. The last 30 years is not reflective of anything---we simply don't have enough data over a long enough period to know.

As you base your whole cooling argument on this thread on 7 years of 'DATA, 200+ years of records showing the opposite, would seem to me, to make your claim somewhat shaky.

From "experts" of course ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6BjSkuYPQw

Likewise, 200 years of records vs. 4 1/2 million years of the current ice age make that claim "shaky" as well.

What's to argue? The data shows the last 7 years of (atmospheric and oceanic) temperatures shows slight cooling. It's called data, which shows CO2 is NOT a control knob. So ... why the 7-year cooling trend?

Temperature graph misrepresented to deny climate change | AP News

And also post #67 on the other thread.

4 1/2 million years?
Now we are going back before even my time!
200 years of records still beats 7 to show a trend in my book.
The planet is getting warmer without a doubt. Even in my short time in the world, the climate has changed.
Man made?
I lean on the 'not' side in that argument, but the jury is still out on that discussion, and none of the opinionated on TOTV will ever hear the official verdict.

Why the 7-year cooling trend?

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