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Guest 05-01-2015 10:05 AM

Freddie Gray's Death Ruled a Homicide
 
Breaking news: warrants have been issued for the arrest of the six police officers who have now been charged with homicide in the death of Freddie Gray. The charges range from second degree murder and manslaughter.

It was also announced that Gray's arrest was illegal.

Guest 05-01-2015 10:28 AM

Freddy Gray was the victim of a homicide is now the official report. It has been reported on all the major networks. The report also cites he was illegally arrested.

Warrants have been issued for the six cops who were complicit in this event with charges from second degree murder down to assault. Their careers and pensions are gone, for sure.

The other prisoner in the paddy wagon at the time had been arrested for stealing a cigarette.

Great cops in Charm City, huh?

Guest 05-01-2015 10:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054219)
Freddy Gray was the victim of a homicide is now the official report. It has been reported on all the major networks. The report also cites he was illegally arrested.

Warrants have been issued for the six cops who were complicit in this event with charges from second degree murder down to assault. Their careers and pensions are gone, for sure.

The other prisoner in the paddy wagon at the time had been arrested for stealing a cigarette.

Great cops in Charm City, huh?

How about putting away your :censored: broad brush generalities away and be a little more specific for once.

Yes there are great cops in Baltimore as in all cities. And yes there are some FEW that are a problem of one sort or another....just like any other statistical group.

Save the BS by snapping back that is what you meant. Those of us here know better.

Just a nasty negative contrarian.

Guest 05-01-2015 12:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054219)
Freddy Gray was the victim of a homicide is now the official report. It has been reported on all the major networks. The report also cites he was illegally arrested.

Warrants have been issued for the six cops who were complicit in this event with charges from second degree murder down to assault. Their careers and pensions are gone, for sure.

The other prisoner in the paddy wagon at the time had been arrested for stealing a cigarette.

Great cops in Charm City, huh?

We can safely predict the arrest rate in many urban hellholes will plummet, and drug related crimes against the black underclass will increase to be followed by calls for more "investment"

Oh, I almost forgot ... we need more awareness too and more face time for the Sharpton Travelling Circus

Guest 05-01-2015 12:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054219)
Freddy Gray was the victim of a homicide is now the official report. It has been reported on all the major networks. The report also cites he was illegally arrested.

Warrants have been issued for the six cops who were complicit in this event with charges from second degree murder down to assault. Their careers and pensions are gone, for sure.

The other prisoner in the paddy wagon at the time had been arrested for stealing a cigarette.

Great cops in Charm City, huh?

The tone of your post seems to imply you have already convicted these cops and that the two arrestees were good upstanding citizens and should not have been engaged. I don't make light of a death but we are soon coming to a time when police officers will not engage. You can can stand on what side of that police line you want but I know I want my family behind it. If you believe we do not need police to keep society in check, you are sadly mistaken. There are a lot of people out there that would have no problem assaulting, stabbing, or shooting you, robbing your home, stealing your car and worse. If these six officiers have committed a homicide should not system be allowed to work.

Guest 05-01-2015 01:29 PM

Let's see, there were six officers who interacted with this victim. Of those six officers not a single one acted appropriately and all six have been charged with crimes. This is not a situation where one officer misbehaved and the other five attempted to correct his error, instead here is a simple interaction where every single cop failed in his or her duty, and the arrest was bogus as well. So painting with a broad brush might be appropriate to the circumstances in this case. And yes they are absolutely entitled to a vigorous defense. And I suspect they will all get off except for the failure to seat belt the victim, which is seemingly a very minor element of the charge. Our Supreme court has ruled that while I as a citizen am obligated to follow laws of which I am not aware "ignorance of the law is no excuse" they have done the exact opposite for cops. You know the group that is supposed to know the laws. Cops can act contrary to a law and that is ok as long as it was "in good faith".

Guest 05-01-2015 01:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054293)
The tone of your post seems to imply you have already convicted these cops and that the two arrestees were good upstanding citizens and should not have been engaged. I don't make light of a death but we are soon coming to a time when police officers will not engage. You can can stand on what side of that police line you want but I know I want my family behind it. If you believe we do not need police to keep society in check, you are sadly mistaken. There are a lot of people out there that would have no problem assaulting, stabbing, or shooting you, robbing your home, stealing your car and worse. If these six officiers have committed a homicide should not system be allowed to work.

You're right about that ... it's a thin blue line coupled with the reality that the veneer of civilization is likewise thin. In the last six years or so, it's gotten a lot thinner and steadily diminishing

Guest 05-01-2015 01:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054193)
Breaking news: warrants have been issued for the arrest of the six police officers who have now been charged with homicide in the death of Freddie Gray. The charges range from second degree murder and manslaughter.

It was also announced that Gray's arrest was illegal.


The manner in which the six cops were arrested is beginning to have the whiff of a lynch mob ....

Guest 05-01-2015 01:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054318)
The manner in which the six cops were arrested is beginning to have the whiff of a lynch mob ....


As opposed to the manner in which Freddie Gray was arrested for no reason, and without probable cause, and then dies of injuries suffered in the van?

These six cops are still alive and will get their day in court, at taxpayer's expense.

Guest 05-01-2015 02:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054314)
Let's see, there were six officers who interacted with this victim. Of those six officers not a single one acted appropriately and all six have been charged with crimes. This is not a situation where one officer misbehaved and the other five attempted to correct his error, instead here is a simple interaction where every single cop failed in his or her duty, and the arrest was bogus as well. So painting with a broad brush might be appropriate to the circumstances in this case. And yes they are absolutely entitled to a vigorous defense. And I suspect they will all get off except for the failure to seat belt the victim, which is seemingly a very minor element of the charge. Our Supreme court has ruled that while I as a citizen am obligated to follow laws of which I am not aware "ignorance of the law is no excuse" they have done the exact opposite for cops. You know the group that is supposed to know the laws. Cops can act contrary to a law and that is ok as long as it was "in good faith".

And just how do you know what any of the 6 officers were doing or did or did not?

And just like reminding a little kid....how about you stop using the general condition language and inferences....if it was at all it was one or two or six....."cops" as you like to generalize.

The military has been emasculated to a point they are not allowed to engage when threatened.
Now we are treating the law enforcement is this country as if they are the bad guys. They are not. Eventually they will begin to play it safe and not enforce for fear of doing something that MAY displease somebody.

Let's all hope that you or none of the rest of us are getting the crap beat out of us and the law plays it safe to see how it turns out.

Let justice be served but stop bad mouthing those who are sworn to serve and protect us. And except for a small percentage of isloated cases that is what they do every day......

Guest 05-01-2015 02:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054320)
As opposed to the manner in which Freddie Gray was arrested for no reason, and without probable cause, and then dies of injuries suffered in the van?

These six cops are still alive and will get their day in court, at taxpayer's expense.

Freddie Gray should not have died in the manner he did.

But, let's also be clear ... Freddie Gray was a long time drug dealer with 20 or so arrests. His actions inflicted huge amounts of pain and dysfunction upon many members of the black underclass. Your heart does not bleed for them, the true victims, because they are invisible to you.

snopes.com: Freddie Gray Arrest Record, Criminal History, and Rap Sheet

Guest 05-01-2015 02:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054324)
And just how do you know what any of the 6 officers were doing or did or did not?

And just like reminding a little kid....how about you stop using the general condition language and inferences....if it was at all it was one or two or six....."cops" as you like to generalize.

The military has been emasculated to a point they are not allowed to engage when threatened.
Now we are treating the law enforcement is this country as if they are the bad guys. They are not. Eventually they will begin to play it safe and not enforce for fear of doing something that MAY displease somebody.

Let's all hope that you or none of the rest of us are getting the crap beat out of us and the law plays it safe to see how it turns out.

Let justice be served but stop bad mouthing those who are sworn to serve and protect us. And except for a small percentage of isloated cases that is what they do every day......

For as long as I can remember, Liberals have just never seemed to like cops. I guess it has something to do with their overall aversion to authority figures in general ... unless they're celebrities which seems to be the one exception.

Guest 05-01-2015 05:25 PM

I'm a liberal and both my kids are conservative cops. So much for this line of crap!

Guest 05-01-2015 06:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054327)
Freddie Gray should not have died in the manner he did.

But, let's also be clear ... Freddie Gray was a long time drug dealer with 20 or so arrests. His actions inflicted huge amounts of pain and dysfunction upon many members of the black underclass. Your heart does not bleed for them, the true victims, because they are invisible to you.

snopes.com: Freddie Gray Arrest Record, Criminal History, and Rap Sheet

Look at the arrest record and you will see that most of his arrests were for posession and sale of marijuana. This does not inflict huge amounts of pain and dysfunction on anyone.

He was not a stellar citizen but to sever his spine is going beyond the beyonds.

Guest 05-01-2015 07:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054324)
And just how do you know what any of the 6 officers were doing or did or did not?

And just like reminding a little kid....how about you stop using the general condition language and inferences....if it was at all it was one or two or six....."cops" as you like to generalize.

The military has been emasculated to a point they are not allowed to engage when threatened.
Now we are treating the law enforcement is this country as if they are the bad guys. They are not. Eventually they will begin to play it safe and not enforce for fear of doing something that MAY displease somebody.

Let's all hope that you or none of the rest of us are getting the crap beat out of us and the law plays it safe to see how it turns out.

Let justice be served but stop bad mouthing those who are sworn to serve and protect us. And except for a small percentage of isloated cases that is what they do every day......

Apparently you chose to highlight a sentence as if it were somehow incorrect, the phrase

Cops can act contrary to a law and that is ok as long as it was "in good faith".

Are you arguing with my statement?

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...3-604_ec8f.pdf

Read the Supreme Court decision then come back for further discussion.


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