Does the majority rule in America (anymore)?
 

I was inspired to create this thread by a comment in anothe thread. I have lifted/copied their statement that I felt neede a separate focus:

"We are a country of majority. The majority makes the rules. Like it or not."

With all the focus and effort on special interests and minority groups (not just race intended) and the ability continuously displayed day after day where the minority(count) rules.

Schools that limit or eliminate something deemed offensive by one person gets accomplished.
A small group that voices opposition to a writing or book or representation they do not like gets approval.
Then the larger issues like ACA where the majority of Americans were against it and it was passed (before read!).
And currently the the Iran nuclear agreement that most of Americans are against is being pushed even with threats by Obama.

So no, based on the current political, special interest, lobbyists and minority group progress I do not believe the majority rules as it once did.

And I do embrace the statement made by the poster quoted above:

LIKE IT OR NOT!!

Unfortunately, you are right. I guess I should have said that our country was based on a majority rule. Long since gone, I'm afraid.

Not as simple as portrayed.

Presidential races, for example is based on the majority of votes WITHIN the state to get ALL the electoral votes.

You elect a senator or Rep who is, in theory to represent his "constituents". Of course, what happens is that he/she is in a political party, and this if no real feedback from constituency, he/she will lean to the party in most cases.

Then, consider voter turnout....is the majority turning out to vote ? Is the majority knowledgable and involved in the issues ?

Then, again are you voting one one issue only, which could or could not be the majority feeling ?

Romney wins in 2012 IF turnout of those who we "think" may have voted for him had actually voted. Republicans win in 2014 because of turn out for the most part.

True, but I was generalizing when I suggested the rule of the majority. And generally speaking we did have such an ideology. The majority vote produced elected representatives that were supposed to consider the needs and wants of the majority, not the few. It's an old argument, now moot.

The constitution and its amendments were enacted to ensure that the minority did not get overlooked. The founders did excellent in their pursuit of balance and equality. The founders were concerned early on that the federal government would back to a monarchy.

Unfortunately beginning with FDR's Fair Deal and moving forward the federal government has gotten too involved in every aspect of people's lives, too large too regulate nd continues to erode the state rights

the executive today is operating almost exclusively by fiat. The legislative Branch is disorganized and fearful of not losing voters, and the judiciary has become activist.

Coupled with the above our educational system has failed, our culture has been declining for many years accompanied with a decline in morality and
lobbyist and unions have dominated in society.

We have now arrived to a state of being that we can't tell the difference between a Democrat and a socialist. Hence the minority now rules on every social issue irrespective of its validity, legality, morality.

Personal Best Regards:

Have you thought that the majority need not be only one group but could actually be several minority groups bonded together to become one large majority entity?

Using that as a base for discussion, the minority groups merged into a majority entity could easily contain or overpower or out vote the group that used to be the majority.

An accurate assessment!

What constitutes a majority today? What I mean here is that political groups manipulate mislead or plain out lie about polls, etc. We all understand that numbers an be made to say anything. We all know that pollsters will ask questions or select from a group that will say what they want the poll to reflect.

Even with those polls most pundits agree are legitimate this government will ignore. Obamacare, Iranian Deal are two in the forefront. But consider if we really have a majority with a war on women? Do we have a majority that believe the decision to establish a ratio of a CEO's pay to a clerk is needed and valid? I wanted to do a thread on this but every day someone adds a new thread that I thought no we need to address what has been posted now and then come back to this issue.

How should society act with a minority (meaning small) organizations like Black Lives Matter? Black Lives do matter but so do all lives.

I believe we are heading toward total moral anarchy and a disregard for the rule of law. Irrespective of the side one comes down on, on abortion Planned Parenthood's actions should horrify people because such a breach opens the door to other orwellian aspect .

Personal Best Regards:

A minority(not talking of race, so chill out folks) wishes to think that, but in reality, they are only louder. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. But, the fact is that PC seems to reign in America. In reality, many small groups are just an irritation that the majority doesn't want to deal with, so they buckle to them just to shut them up. It doesn't convince anyone that they are right or deserving, just an irritation that no one wants to deal with.

The silent majority empowers and emboldens minority group (numbers not race but race is one).
Too many of the silent majority just do not care as long as they are not personally affected.....not in their backyard!

And of course the weak and spineless, don't offend anybody (unless it is the majority).

Popular vote = majority wins.
Electoral vote = majority.
Show of hands = majority.

Silent majority gets what it deserves......a deteriorating America!

Really, how about 9 people in black robes over the majority!

Excellent point!! :BigApplause:

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.

Captain John Smith of Jamestown gave the order of "no work, no food."

I mentioned both references because the first part is from the Bible and I do realize that the Bible offends liberal atheists.

When the pilgrims immigrated to America, they attempted socialism via the Mayflower Compact......and it failed.

Clean socialism from America and you will undoubtedly rid us of the noisy minority with their radical views.

Today, anyone that controls the media controls the voice and is louder than any majority. The minority always has an excuse for their failure, and it is never their fault. Those of the majority will undoubtedly be the ones that have made their way without gov assistance. They make no excuses for obstacles they encounter on the way. Liberals profess not to believe in a deity, yet use Christian charity as a means to extort benefits from the majority.

Then we no longer have a democracy!

I think that was the point. Nine elders (because you only get rid of them when they die on the job) dictate what they deem right or wrong. No matter what the majority want. No matter what the founders wanted. No matter what the constitution says. Obama says the constitution is just a guide. I doubt the elders even consider it that.