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ColdNoMore 02-09-2017 06:37 PM

Travel Ban Stay - Upheld!
 
Federal appeals court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban

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Federal appeals court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban


How long will it take for Trump to throw the attorney arguing for him...under the bus? :1rotfl:

affald 02-09-2017 06:44 PM

Time to go nuclear and restore law and order.

Rockyrd 02-09-2017 07:01 PM

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Federal appeals court refuses to reinstate Trump travel ban




How long will it take for Trump to throw the attorney arguing for him...under the bus? :1rotfl:

He has a case, and none of this would have happened if he wasn't taking advice from reactionaries.

He either needs to pull this back, reword it and try again or he will be out of luck.

If he wants to secure our country, he could have and still can, but here we go with his ego where it is my way or the highway.

ColdNoMore 02-09-2017 07:12 PM

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He has a case, and none of this would have happened if he wasn't taking advice from reactionaries.

He either needs to pull this back, reword it and try again or he will be out of luck.

If he wants to secure our country, he could have and still can, but here we go with his ego where it is my way or the highway.

You're actually correct.

Had Trump simply thought it out (and not had Giuliani spout off about him being asked to try and hide it from what it is...a Muslim ban :D )...he could have crafted an executive order that would have had a chance.

Especially if it included major Muslim countries...where he had business interests. :oops:

What really hurt it, was the way Chump made everyone jump through hoops and start enforcing it...before any reasonable notice or thought was given. :ohdear:

billethkid 02-09-2017 07:13 PM

What the radical left court has done is a sad day for the USA.

Like the temporary order Trump enacted or not....he is the president with much more secure knowledge and input with which he has taken a constitutionally allowed action to increase the security of this country.

Like it or not he has the right and the constitutional power to do so.

And the state of Washington advances a 3rd party injury...students can't get back to school from overseas...as an "injury" to the universities, hence unable to conduct the business of the university.

Really. The legal BS about a university can't do it's business supercedes the president of the USA and orders to protect the country from harm!!!!!

I don't care whether you have an R or D or whatever after your name. This is judicial politics plain and simple. Demonstarting the left's priorities have nothing to do with the security of the USA.

Our enemies will have a field day with this new information, that there is a way to emaculate the president of the most powerful country on earth.
Conratulations 9th circuit court....enemiy of we the people of the USA.

And yes all the radical partisan flag wavers and parrots will be out in full force celebrating a very serious injury to the running and staure of our country.

Un-:censored:-believable.

That is cause for demonstrating and rioting in the streets.

billethkid 02-09-2017 07:15 PM

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You're actually correct.

Had Trump simply thought it out (and not had Giuliani spout off about him being asked to try and hide it from what it is...a Muslim ban :D )...he could have crafted an executive order that would have had a chance.

Especially if it included major Muslim countries...where he had business interests. :oops:

What really hurt it, was the way Chump made everyone jump through hoops and start enforcing it...before any reasonable notice or thought was given. :ohdear:

And Atlanta could have won the game Sunday if they only would have........................................

Rockyrd 02-09-2017 07:28 PM

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Posted by Guest
What the radical left court has done is a sad day for the USA.

Like the temporary order Trump enacted or not....he is the president with much more secure knowledge and input with which he has taken a constitutionally allowed action to increase the security of this country.

Like it or not he has the right and the constitutional power to do so.

And the state of Washington advances a 3rd party injury...students can't get back to school from overseas...as an "injury" to the universities, hence unable to conduct the business of the university.

Really. The legal BS about a university can't do it's business supercedes the president of the USA and orders to protect the country from harm!!!!!

I don't care whether you have an R or D or whatever after your name. This is judicial politics plain and simple. Demonstarting the left's priorities have nothing to do with the security of the USA.

Our enemies will have a field day with this new information, that there is a way to emaculate the president of the most powerful country on earth.
Conratulations 9th circuit court....enemiy of we the people of the USA.

And yes all the radical partisan flag wavers and parrots will be out in full force celebrating a very serious injury to the running and staure of our country.

Un-:censored:-believable.

That is cause for demonstrating and rioting in the streets.

1. The President did not have to mention any religion...he did.

2. He picked countries that do not, and have not been involved in any terrorist attacks.

3. He ignored countries that do and have presented threats.

4. The wording and execution was disasterous.

My opinion....this is a test balloon...how much can I get away with.

If he really wanted to protect the country, he would have perhaps issued executive order to increase vetting....problem is they can find nothing wrong with current vetting.

he is playing a game of fear and "the sky is falling"

Cannot accept the thing about making us safe

billethkid 02-09-2017 07:38 PM

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1. The President did not have to mention any religion...he did.

2. He picked countries that do not, and have not been involved in any terrorist attacks.

3. He ignored countries that do and have presented threats.

4. The wording and execution was disasterous.

My opinion....this is a test balloon...how much can I get away with.

If he really wanted to protect the country, he would have perhaps issued executive order to increase vetting....problem is they can find nothing wrong with current vetting.

he is playing a game of fear and "the sky is falling"

Cannot accept the thing about making us safe

He does not have to "see what he can get away with".
You are demonstrating the pattern the left is promoting...ignore the fact that the president of the USA has a constitutional right to do what he did...like it or not....smooth or not...or what ever else......
the 9th circuit court or any other court can not over turn what the president has ordered by virtue of constitutional power.

That is the issue.....which the opposition will most certainly not agree with.....we shall see.

Rockyrd 02-09-2017 07:50 PM

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He does not have to "see what he can get away with".
You are demonstrating the pattern the left is promoting...ignore the fact that the president of the USA has a constitutional right to do what he did...like it or not....smooth or not...or what ever else......
the 9th circuit court or any other court can not over turn what the president has ordered by virtue of constitutional power.

That is the issue.....which the opposition will most certainly not agree with.....we shall see.

Well, guess can only say two things...

1. We have a constitution, which despite your efforts does not represent or recognize left or right.

2. We are a country of laws, NOT of men. Trite, but apropo


pS..I do agree in principal, and think he should just suck it up and do what he has to do. Only thing to prevent that would be if he DID mean to ban Muslims.

Rockyrd 02-09-2017 08:25 PM

A tweet from Bill Kristol says it well this evening....


"Trump's 1st term feels a bit like Nixon's 2nd: Wildly overconfident president, poor WH staff, losing court cases, Hill GOP losing confidence"


That "poor WH Staff" is killing him. Not only this situations but leaks galore, mouths and egos galore.

Kelsie52 02-09-2017 09:11 PM

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Well, guess can only say two things...

1. We have a constitution, which despite your efforts does not represent or recognize left or right.

2. We are a country of laws, NOT of men. Trite, but apropo


pS..I do agree in principal, and think he should just suck it up and do what he has to do. Only thing to prevent that would be if he DID mean to ban Muslims.

People from other countries who have not been here have no constitutional rights---
This court has been overturned 86% of the time --This will just add to their political bias

billethkid 02-09-2017 10:07 PM

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Posted by Guest
A tweet from Bill Kristol says it well this evening....


"Trump's 1st term feels a bit like Nixon's 2nd: Wildly overconfident president, poor WH staff, losing court cases, Hill GOP losing confidence"


That "poor WH Staff" is killing him. Not only this situations but leaks galore, mouths and egos galore.

Talk about a stretch.
Natural or induced leftist hallucinations.

rubicon 02-10-2017 04:58 AM

The 7 countries named in Trumps travel ban are the same countries Obama defined as having a high risk of acts of terrorism.

a president has the constitutional right here. Carter did it with Iran. FDr not only banned travel he placed Germans, Italians and japanese in internment camps

This issue is about Trump and its about the fact that progressives lost.

Trump will prevail at the Supreme Court, and if by chance the supreme court justice also get political then they place all citizens at risk by denying a president to act based on intelligence received with those who would harm us.

Progressives are playing a really stupid by dangerous game

Personal Best Regards;

Taltarzac725 02-10-2017 06:31 AM

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The 7 countries named in Trumps travel ban are the same countries Obama defined as having a high risk of acts of terrorism.

a president has the constitutional right here. Carter did it with Iran. FDr not only banned travel he placed Germans, Italians and japanese in internment camps

This issue is about Trump and its about the fact that progressives lost.

Trump will prevail at the Supreme Court, and if by chance the supreme court justice also get political then they place all citizens at risk by denying a president to act based on intelligence received with those who would harm us.

Progressives are playing a really stupid by dangerous game

Personal Best Regards;

He should not win at the Supreme Court level if these Justices have any respect for the US Constitution or for the Founding Fathers who wrote it. My guess is that the Supreme Court will refuse to hear the case. Almost any law student tell you that this ban is unconstitutional on its face. Stranger things have happened though like Trumpff getting elected as President. Still cannot understand how so many people could fall for this con man's demagoguery.

ColdNoMore 02-10-2017 06:41 AM

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This court has been overturned 86% of the time --This will just add to their political bias

Oh really?


Legitimate link? :popcorn:


Especially given that 91.73% of statistics...are simply made up. :D


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