Originally Posted by Md girl (Post 1408887)

This morning I went to Chula Vista Rec Center to participate in a class. This was not my first time there. I tried to go to the back so I would not be in anyone's way. I was told that was not a good place ,then the woman preceded to put her hands on my shoulders and push me into what she considered a suitable place for me. I kept quiet not wanting to start any trouble. As soon as there was a break in the last, she immediately started running her mouth to another participant about me. I walked over and picked up my things and left. I'm not sure who died and left this woman in charge, I hope she reads this. Because I want her to know she was lucky I did not press charges against her for putting her hands on me. As far as I know I have the same rights as anyone else. I pay my fees to use the facilities just like everyone. So who ever you are count your blessings that I did not have you arrested, perhaps you should think twice before putting your hands on anyone.

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1408902)

You might want to return to attend the next class and use your phone or have a friend use her phone to take a picture of this woman so she can be identified if you do not know her name. If she becomes belligerent again perhaps you could video her behavior to be used in court or posted on social media. However, this might run afoul of TV's no photo policy about which I have heard so check it out first.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1408915)

Complain to the Recreation Department. Posting it on TOTV doesn't get the job done.

With regard to manaboutown's suggestion, I consider "TV's no photo policy" to be an urban myth until they start posting warning signs at every TV owned property saying that photos are prohibited.

Contrary to his suggestion that you check it out first....... I wouldn't. You can't be faulted for an alleged policy that they can't show that you knew.

Originally Posted by Md girl (Post 1408887)

This morning I went to Chula Vista Rec Center to participate in a class. This was not my first time there. I tried to go to the back so I would not be in anyone's way. I was told that was not a good place ,then the woman preceded to put her hands on my shoulders and push me into what she considered a suitable place for me. I kept quiet not wanting to start any trouble. As soon as there was a break in the last, she immediately started running her mouth to another participant about me. I walked over and picked up my things and left. I'm not sure who died and left this woman in charge, I hope she reads this. Because I want her to know she was lucky I did not press charges against her for putting her hands on me. As far as I know I have the same rights as anyone else. I pay my fees to use the facilities just like everyone. So who ever you are count your blessings that I did not have you arrested, perhaps you should think twice before putting your hands on anyone.

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1408918)

But what about "Ignorance of the law is no excuse"? I realize a policy is not necessarily law... your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Md girl (Post 1408887)

I was told that was not a good place ,then the woman preceded to put her hands on my shoulders and push me into what she considered a suitable place for me.

As far as I know I have the same rights as anyone else.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1408937)

Under Florida law, if a person is on private property and is violating a policy or standard of behavior, the owner or manger of the property can order the person to leave. The policy being violated must be explained.



If the person refuses, the owner or manager can call the police. When the police arrive, the offender generally is given the option to conform to the policy or to leave. If the offender refuses to conform, the police officer issues a "Trespass Warning" in writing, telling the offender to leave the property.



If the offender refuses to leave, the officer makes an arrest. The arrest is not for violating the policy, but for violating the Trespass Warning. That's why the arrest is not made when the officer first arrives. There is no offense until the Trespass Warning is served on the offender.



At the Sheriff's Office where I worked, this is how it was done. Every deputy carried blank Trespass Warnings which the deputy could execute. Other agencies may consider a verbal warning from their officers to be sufficient.



The Trespass Warning may be for a temporary period or perpetual, at the option of the owner or manager of the property.



SO..........absent being put on notice by The Villages that photography is prohibited at a particular venue, you must be warned before your are in violation of the policy.



Ignorance of the law is quite different from ignorance of the rules.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1408937)

Under Florida law, if a person is on private property and is violating a policy or standard of behavior, the owner or manger of the property can order the person to leave. The policy being violated must be explained.

If the person refuses, the owner or manager can call the police. When the police arrive, the offender generally is given the option to conform to the policy or to leave. If the offender refuses to conform, the police officer issues a "Trespass Warning" in writing, telling the offender to leave the property.

If the offender refuses to leave, the officer makes an arrest. The arrest is not for violating the policy, but for violating the Trespass Warning. That's why the arrest is not made when the officer first arrives. There is no offense until the Trespass Warning is served on the offender.

At the Sheriff's Office where I worked, this is how it was done. Every deputy carried blank Trespass Warnings which the deputy could execute. Other agencies may consider a verbal warning from their officers to be sufficient.

The Trespass Warning may be for a temporary period or perpetual, at the option of the owner or manager of the property.

SO..........absent being put on notice by The Villages that photography is prohibited at a particular venue, you must be warned before your are in violation of the policy.

Ignorance of the law is quite different from ignorance of the rules.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1408937)

Ignorance of the law is quite different from ignorance of the rules.

Originally Posted by Md girl (Post 1408887)

This morning I went to Chula Vista Rec Center to participate in a class. This was not my first time there. I tried to go to the back so I would not be in anyone's way. I was told that was not a good place ,then the woman preceded to put her hands on my shoulders and push me into what she considered a suitable place for me. I kept quiet not wanting to start any trouble. As soon as there was a break in the last, she immediately started running her mouth to another participant about me. I walked over and picked up my things and left. I'm not sure who died and left this woman in charge, I hope she reads this. Because I want her to know she was lucky I did not press charges against her for putting her hands on me. As far as I know I have the same rights as anyone else. I pay my fees to use the facilities just like everyone. So who ever you are count your blessings that I did not have you arrested, perhaps you should think twice before putting your hands on anyone.