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Rainger99 05-11-2023 01:49 PM

Supreme Court upholds California law that will probably increase the price of pork
 
The US Supreme Court just upheld a California law which requires that any pork sold in California has to come from pigs whose mothers were raised with at least 24 square feet of space, with the ability to lie down and turn around - even if the pork comes from another state.

This will be a nightmare for the pork industry since the vast majority of pork farmers' practices do not conform to the California law. Either they won't be able to sell pork in California, or if they do comply with the law, pork prices should increase for the rest of the country. Stock up on bacon now!

Supreme Court rejects challenge to California pork law mandating more space for pigs

retiredguy123 05-11-2023 02:16 PM

California has a lot of laws that other states don't follow. Why would pork farmers change their practices just so they can sell pork in California?

Cybersprings 05-11-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2216613)
The US Supreme Court just upheld a California law which requires that any pork sold in California has to come from pigs whose mothers were raised with at least 24 square feet of space, with the ability to lie down and turn around - even if the pork comes from another state.

This will be a nightmare for the pork industry since the vast majority of pork farmers' practices do not conform to the California law. Either they won't be able to sell pork in California, or if they do comply with the law, pork prices should increase for the rest of the country. Stock up on bacon now!

Supreme Court rejects challenge to California pork law mandating more space for pigs

Almost anything California passes I think is ridiculous. And I am not a huge animal person. But requiring a 4x6 pen for a pig where she can lay down does not seem extreme. If the industry does not provide that now, then shame on them, not shame on California for passing the law. That is one law that I would be willing to pay more for. Yes it is "just an animal," but cruelty is still cruelty.

Hape2Bhr 05-11-2023 03:06 PM

Is bacon legal in California?

Number 10 GI 05-11-2023 03:20 PM

Just how is the California state government going to insure that pork producers in Arkansas or Iowa are following their law? Do any of these mental midgets realize how many farms raise hogs across this country? How about pork imported from another country? There is no way they have enough inspectors to inspect every place hogs are raised to guarantee compliance. An inspector from California would have no authority to access a pork producer in any state outside of California. Just mental pablum for gullible minds.

Rainger99 05-11-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2216642)
Just how is the California state government going to insure that pork producers in Arkansas or Iowa are following their law? Do any of these mental midgets realize how many farms raise hogs across this country? How about pork imported from another country? There is no way they have enough inspectors to inspect every place hogs are raised to guarantee compliance. An inspector from California would have no authority to access a pork producer in any state outside of California. Just mental pablum for gullible minds.

I agree. Enforcement will be a nightmare. Once the hogs get to the slaughterhouse and are killed, it will be extremely difficult to follow the product from that point through processing to packaging to the grocery store.

dewilson58 05-11-2023 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2216623)
California has a lot of laws that other states don't follow. Why would pork farmers change their practices just so they can sell pork in California?

Bingo.

There are already trucking companies who will not run in Calif.

The OP is a non-event.

Stu from NYC 05-11-2023 06:18 PM

Guess we cannot ask the pig if he was given enough room.:bigbow:

kkingston57 05-11-2023 07:46 PM

Who cares? How much of pork sold in Florida comes from California? Bet < 1%.

JMintzer 05-11-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2216696)
Who cares? How much of pork sold in Florida comes from California? Bet < 1%.

You think only CA will raise their pork prices due to increased production costs?

Cybersprings 05-11-2023 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2216673)
Bingo.

There are already trucking companies who will not run in Calif.

The OP is a non-event.

I normally agree with what you say, so looking for clarification. The OP was that SCOTUS upheld the california law banning sale of pork in their state under those conditions. All california has to do is ask for some sort of certification and it will be up to the seller to prove. (I am surmising). So it seems like a big event that the law was upheld.

Worldseries27 05-12-2023 04:28 AM

Sayonara
 
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Originally Posted by rainger99 (Post 2216613)
the us supreme court just upheld a california law which requires that any pork sold in california has to come from pigs whose mothers were raised with at least 24 square feet of space, with the ability to lie down and turn around - even if the pork comes from another state.

This will be a nightmare for the pork industry since the vast majority of pork farmers' practices do not conform to the california law. Either they won't be able to sell pork in california, or if they do comply with the law, pork prices should increase for the rest of the country. Stock up on bacon now!

supreme court rejects challenge to california pork law mandating more space for pigs

wish it was further away

Bay Kid 05-12-2023 06:23 AM

Glad I don't live in such a crazy state. LA now wants civilians to make traffic stops. This will end well.

Bill14564 05-12-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2216623)
California has a lot of laws that other states don't follow. Why would pork farmers change their practices just so they can sell pork in California?

California is the largest state in the nation. Along with bacon, pork products include hams, sausages, pork chops, and hot dogs. It will be hard for companies who make these products, like Oscar Mayer, to decide to forgo doing business in California.

If Oscar Mayer chooses to meet the California standards then either they will need to pass the new requirements along to all of their pork farmers or they will need to create separate processing lines and sources for products sold in California. Either way it will be an increased cost of doing business for the company that will likely be passed along to us all.

MandoMan 05-12-2023 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2216613)
The US Supreme Court just upheld a California law which requires that any pork sold in California has to come from pigs whose mothers were raised with at least 24 square feet of space, with the ability to lie down and turn around - even if the pork comes from another state.

This will be a nightmare for the pork industry since the vast majority of pork farmers' practices do not conform to the California law. Either they won't be able to sell pork in California, or if they do comply with the law, pork prices should increase for the rest of the country. Stock up on bacon now!

Supreme Court rejects challenge to California pork law mandating more space for pigs

24 square feet. 4’ x 6’. How much room do the growers provide now? It’s interesting that the Republican majority on the Supreme Court sided with the State of California on this, but President Biden’s office urged the Supreme Court to side with the pork producers! I think the pork producers should agree among themselves to not comply and see how the people in California react when their stores can find almost no pork products to sell. Let people eat turkey bacon and beef hotdogs.


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