[CoachKandSportsguy]

Why in today's world, with every group having a scorer, the camera men watching every hole, with web sites posting the scores, do the golfers themselves have to sign a card for their score?

So evidently they had the correct score from the scorer, so that they can compare the players' signed card against the scorers tally. . . and disqualify him. Otherwise, how would they know so quickly?

Seems like the old fashioned pre television, pre media blitz everywhere, rule that the traditionalists don't want to change, is really out of date. The rule about signing for yours and your opponents card is left over from the very old days when golfers went out alone, and the sport had to impose such rules to prevent dishonesty amongst the players.

That scenario doesn't exist in today's world, so maybe the rules of PGA tournaments need to be updated to the scorer keeping the score, so the players can focus on playing and not paperwork!

paperwork sucks

[retiredguy123]

I don't know about the scorer, but I don't think every round has a camera or someone updating a website. I like the rule where you have to sign the scorecard. It keeps the players honest. There are cheaters on the pro tour.

I still think that Lexi Thompson should have been expelled from the ladies tour for cheating in the 2017 ANA tournament. There is no question that she was or is a cheater.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I don't know about the scorer, but I don't think every round has a camera or someone updating a website. I like the rule where you have to sign the scorecard. It keeps the players honest. There are cheaters on the pro tour.

I still think that Lexi Thompson should have been expelled from the ladies tour for cheating in the 2017 ANA tournament. There is no question that she was or is a cheater.

If you take the paperwork away, and use an official scorer the player can't cheat. . obviously I wasn't clear in my rant.

back to my original point, most all other sports, there are official scorers. . golf's signing your own scorecard is a century old holdover

[dewilson58]

Golf is a game of tradition and honor............glad these items continue.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

If you take the paperwork away, and use an official scorer the player can't cheat. . obviously I wasn't clear in my rant.

back to my original point, most all other sports, there are official scorers. . golf's signing your own scorecard is a century old holdover

I don't disagree with your rant. But, most other sports don't require honesty, like golf does. Also, in the first 2 rounds of a tournament, there may be 70 groups of 3 players, so you would need a lot of scorers to watch every shot.

[BrianL99]

".... what a stupid I am".

".... I lose my brain".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akrz447IG4A

[BrianL99]

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[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Golf is a game of tradition and honor............glad these items continue.

Recent generations are loathe to take responsibility for anything.

Do you really think they should have to add up their score themselves and sign their name?

.... sounds a little onerous to me.

[Two Bills]

Most games of golf do not have someone to keep the score.
What makes golf so good, is the personal honesty of the game.
Lose that, and the game loses all its integrity.
Plus, keep collared shirts, and ban denim!

[mike234]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Golf is a game of tradition and honor............glad these items continue.

tradition and honor. the tradition of the player who scores a hole in one, has to buy the drinks. absolutely absurd. it should be the other way around, as to ease the financial burden on the hole in one player .........

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by mike234

tradition and honor. the tradition of the player who scores a hole in one, has to buy the drinks. absolutely absurd. it should be the other way around, as to ease the financial burden on the hole in one player .........

I agree. That is why, on a par 3, I always aim a little to the left or right of the hole to avoid making a hole-in-one.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Plus, keep collared shirts, and ban denim!

Absolutelyl

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I still think that Lexi Thompson should have been expelled from the ladies tour for cheating in the 2017 ANA tournament. There is no question that she was or is a cheater.

I personally know professional athletes and olympic level athletes who know all the rules, and also know how to push into the grey area between what's allowed and what will be called as "cheating." That's why refs, umps, officials, and video replay now exist. . . Players shouldn't be trusted with following the rules, and to protect the players from others who cheat, or human officiating.

There is cheating from adding the total score, and there is cheating at the execution in the game. I think people can confuse the two. Cheating in execution during the competition is about what the rules are for. That is where the athlete can make or break a shot, like Lexi T did and Tiger W did the same at a master's tournament, caught by the cameraman and replay, the grey area between the rules and people actually calling foul. That's why there are rules officials during tournaments to protect the players from themselves, and I am proposing the same idea with paperwork. . . there are now limits to people from home watching calling in fouls in pga tournaments, which did happen and players got caught in execution . . . that doesn't happen in any other sport either, being officiated by the watching public

Paperwork should not be part of the player's responsibility any more. I have worked at a PGA tournament, there are plenty of people available to able to be a scorer, . . . just like there are exams and qualifications to be umps and referees, there can be the same for PGA on field scorers doing paperwork. I met retired golf groupies who travel in RVs from tournament to tournament around the country for the travel and the free meals and watching what they love.

its just a centuries old process held over by traditionalists.

still try to change my mind

[biker1]

I have found that aiming right at the hole prevents me from making holes-in-one ;-)

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree. That is why, on a par 3, I always aim a little to the left or right of the hole to avoid making a hole-in-one.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Absolutelyl

Special medical exemption for Jon Daly!