[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66

I have a friend that lives in TV that lives on a sort of pie shaped preserve site lot that they built on about 4 years ago. The problem is that about half of their lot also backs onto a large non-Villages rural property with a run down house around 1000' feet away from the back of the property. The owners seem to have taken up a hobby of trying to antagonize the Villagers abutting their property by riding dirt bikes up around the fence and doing target practice with their guns during weekend afternoons. Not a situation that I would feel great about after paying a premium for that lot.

Those people have been riding their dirt bikes on that property long before the villages ever built there. Contrary to what some believe, not everyone who lives outside the bubble spend their time trying to irritate people who live IN the bubble. They are living their lives, just like they did before you ever sniffed the villages.

[MollyJo]

Originally Posted by Aces4

This is a major life lesson in purchasing your home. NEVER buy a home next to vacant land that could in the future be developed. I shudder when I think of the lovely homes that had cell towers placed near by, storage compounds, apartment complexes even manure pits, lol. Now if one is fine with all these things, purchase away.

I hope you are able to find an answer to your question and wish you only good luck. Maybe someone with big pockets will build their mansion and estate outside your back door!

I always wonder why homes are for sale with farm land behind. Once the original owners pass, their family likely just wants to cash out.
Picture a 2-3 story apartment complex looking down on your once peaceful adobe…

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by MollyJo

I always wonder why homes are for sale with farm land behind. Once the original owners pass, their family likely just wants to cash out.
Picture a 2-3 story apartment complex looking down on your once peaceful adobe…

Unless one has experience with farming, the lows and the extreme lows of no rain, too much rain, not enough seasonal pickers. Crops fail, too much crops and no buyers. Up at 3am, no breaks until cows are milked, fed, fences checked, where are the chickens hiding.

The highlight your 17yo got a 4 year scholarship to anywhere, so eventually they can feed their family and not worry about where the money will come from, and how are you going to get seeds when you still have debt from 4 years ago.

That’s why 4th gen farms go up for sale. Parents don’t want watch their kids work 70-80 hour weeks.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by thelegges

Unless one has experience with farming, the lows and the extreme lows of no rain, too much rain, not enough seasonal pickers. Crops fail, too much crops and no buyers. Up at 3am, no breaks until cows are milked, fed, fences checked, where are the chickens hiding.

The highlight your 17yo got a 4 year scholarship to anywhere, so eventually they can feed their family and not worry about where the money will come from, and how are you going to get seeds when you still have debt from 4 years ago.

That’s why 4th gen farms go up for sale. Parents don’t want watch their kids work 70-80 hour weeks.

The United States Government has appropriated a little over $42 BILLION dollars for farmers this year.

Conservation and Safety-Net Programs:
The USDA announced the distribution of over $2.14 billion to agricultural producers and landowners through programs like the Conservation Reserve Program, Agriculture Risk Coverage (ARC), and Price Loss Coverage (PLC).

Emergency Commodity Assistance Program (ECAP):
The USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) allocated up to $10 billion in direct payments to eligible agricultural producers for the 2024 crop year through ECAP.

Economic Assistance:
Congress passed a stop-gap funding bill that included $10 billion in economic assistance for farmers, aiming to mitigate the impact of lower commodity prices and high production costs
.
Disaster Assistance:
Congress also allocated $20 billion in farm aid for natural disasters, with the USDA releasing more details on this aid, including funding for livestock losses due to events like drought and flood.

Distressed Farm Loan Assistance:
The USDA also provided final assistance of approximately $300 million to distressed direct and guaranteed farm loan borrowers under the Inflation Reduction Act.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

Optioning is a relatively cheap way to try to have a say in the future. Then form your own investment group comprised of affected neighbors.

I don’t care. It’s not my land so it’s none of my business. Nor is it anyone’s else except owners.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The United States Government has appropriated a little over $42 BILLION dollars for farmers this year.

Conservation and Safety-Net Programs:
The USDA announced the distribution of over $2.14 billion to agricultural producers and landowners through programs like the Conservation Reserve Program, Agriculture Risk Coverage (ARC), and Price Loss Coverage (PLC).

Emergency Commodity Assistance Program (ECAP):
The USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA) allocated up to $10 billion in direct payments to eligible agricultural producers for the 2024 crop year through ECAP.

Economic Assistance:
Congress passed a stop-gap funding bill that included $10 billion in economic assistance for farmers, aiming to mitigate the impact of lower commodity prices and high production costs
.
Disaster Assistance:
Congress also allocated $20 billion in farm aid for natural disasters, with the USDA releasing more details on this aid, including funding for livestock losses due to events like drought and flood.

Distressed Farm Loan Assistance:
The USDA also provided final assistance of approximately $300 million to distressed direct and guaranteed farm loan borrowers under the Inflation Reduction Act.

So like our Four Generation Three family farms, you have personal experience, on inter workings of farming?
Or just get information from the internet, that may look good on the net, but doesn’t equate to actual experience of farming and financial background.

What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by thelegges

What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.

If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.

Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..

The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.

& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.

[FloridaGuy66]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Why do people in the Villages always think everything that happens is about them?

I grew up in the country,which is what that area obviously was not that long ago, and we rode dirt bikes and shot guns quite a lot. That community was obviously there first and the people obviously did not buy dirt bikes and guns just to upset Villagers.

When someone has 50+ acres but chooses to do the noisiest activities on the 1 acre that is closest to neighbors, it becomes somewhat obvious. I grew up in the country and would see things like this all the time.

I don't really think it's important what anyone's intent is here anyways. The point is that many people are sold lots in TV that are connected to non-Villages land and the TV sales agents are not very forthcoming about what their land actually backs on to. I'm guessing maybe they don't even know in some cases.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by thelegges

So like our Four Generation Three family farms, you have personal experience, on inter workings of farming?
Or just get information from the internet, that may look good on the net, but doesn’t equate to actual experience of farming and financial background.

What assistance may or may not benefit farms. If farms were able to obtain everything you found on the net.. TV and multiple developments would have never been built, because the cattle, watermelon, and dairy farmers would have never sold profitable land.

A big problem is few want to do work or labor anymore. Go to college, get brilliant and use your head rather than your back. Yeah, right. Those that continue farming are in demand in the trades. They know how to work, think on their feet and are extremely handy.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.

Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..

The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.

& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.

And that's why you're eating foods with chemicals in them, hormones in your milk and GMO foods that can be shipped from Timbuktu. Big does not mean better by any stretch of the imagination.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.

Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..

The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.

& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.

You seem to think a 4 gen farm is quaint and time has passed by…in reality your net search still doesn’t give you facts. Farmers children not only use agricultural degrees, engineering, water management, and financial background. Larger farms usually have Large Animal veterinarians, in family.

Comment on pigs and goats, definitely shows little knowledge. Farm to Slaughter are a different breed of farm altogether. Goat farming is small boutique for milk and cheese. Baby Goats cute, adult are just mean.

One Family Dairy farm is Second largest producer in their state, the other Dairy is 4th largest. Third farm still produces tobacco, at 300 acres is considered boutique.
Fourth farm has a dedicated building with fully operational Operating Room, recovery and rehabilitation equipped with an indoor therapy pool. Family scholarship donations to help small farm kids is rewarding. You don’t just survive to 4 gens without highly educated, family and management.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

If farms couldn't make money, we'd all starve, because no one would farm.

Small farms may have trouble making money these days, for just the same reason you don't see Mom & Pop Grocery Stores or Stationary Stores or Cobblers ... they're not efficient and don't make money..

The idea of small, 4th generation family farms is quaint and nostalgic, but time has passed them by.

& to satisfy the folks that still like the idea of small, 4th Generation farms, the USA government is throwing billions at them. There are some strategic reasons for supporting farms, but in general, if you can't make a living at it, get into another business. You shouldn't be relying for the Government to bail you out every year, so your kids can hang out with the pigs & goats.

Another program that’s need’s drastically funds cut. You can go to any county in fly over states and see millions paid out in farm subsidies. Most are not small farms. I grew in in farming community use here farm boys whine about no money when they have new trucks, tractors, combines, houses, and paying minimum wage to farm hand while collecting farm subsidies.