[LG999]

IMHO applying for a job is something we do by ourselves.

[Daxdog]

Originally Posted by jricci13

My very sweet 33 year old niece put in a job application at Amerikanos Grille in Spanish Springs. She is new to the Villages so naturally I took her to the square to put in applications since she has extensive service experience. I sat at the bar outside and she went inside to fill fill out an application and speak to management.. I was not “ holding her hand”! She came over to me for a few minutes and sat beside me to get a couple of phone numbers for the app and then continued to be interviewed by the staff.
She was told to return for work the next day at 2:30 p.m. (at lease that is how it was presented to her). I paid my bill and together we both left.

The next day my niece got dressed up and was ready to start her new job. I dropped her off at Amerikanos on the golf cart at 2: 30 and came home. Shortly after, I received a phone call from her; she was walking home and very upset. She told me that management had told her that she was not hired, she was to come in for an interview, and they were not comfortable hiring her because it was reported that "SHE STAYED AT THE VENUE AFTER APPLYING AND DRANK SHOTS OF FIREBALL AT THE BAR!". She pleaded with them that this was not true, but was told that she would not be hired. I
I was flabbergasted that they would make up such a story and went to talk to management. I attempted to angrily talk to the manager and let her know that this was false. My niece had never been to the square, drank nothing and I was sitting there the entire time she was filling out an application. The manager walked away and wouldn't even listen.
I have heard this kind of thing is common with the businesses in the square. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone else?

Your sweet 33 year old nice must have said something unsweetened to them. And in other posts you say you waited outside, why did you pay your bill if outside ? I guess everyone’s nice is sweet.

[Mellow]

[QUOTE=Eg_cruz;2118282]Thank goodness she dodged that bullet……could you imagine working with someone like that. Best place would be Legacy

I thought the same family owned Legacy as well as other restaurants in TV

[JSR22]

[QUOTE=Mellow;2118536]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

Thank goodness she dodged that bullet……could you imagine working with someone like that. Best place would be Legacy

I thought the same family owned Legacy as well as other restaurants in TV

Suleiman used to own Amerikanos. It was sold when they renovated Lopez.

[RICH1]

33 years old riding dirty with Auntie! Lots more to this story before a Restaurant gets smeared for hiring practices!

[Ele201]

Originally Posted by jricci13

My very sweet 33 year old niece put in a job application at Amerikanos Grille in Spanish Springs. She is new to the Villages so naturally I took her to the square to put in applications since she has extensive service experience. I sat at the bar outside and she went inside to fill fill out an application and speak to management.. I was not “ holding her hand”! She came over to me for a few minutes and sat beside me to get a couple of phone numbers for the app and then continued to be interviewed by the staff.
She was told to return for work the next day at 2:30 p.m. (at lease that is how it was presented to her). I paid my bill and together we both left.

The next day my niece got dressed up and was ready to start her new job. I dropped her off at Amerikanos on the golf cart at 2: 30 and came home. Shortly after, I received a phone call from her; she was walking home and very upset. She told me that management had told her that she was not hired, she was to come in for an interview, and they were not comfortable hiring her because it was reported that "SHE STAYED AT THE VENUE AFTER APPLYING AND DRANK SHOTS OF FIREBALL AT THE BAR!". She pleaded with them that this was not true, but was told that she would not be hired. I
I was flabbergasted that they would make up such a story and went to talk to management. I attempted to angrily talk to the manager and let her know that this was false. My niece had never been to the square, drank nothing and I was sitting there the entire time she was filling out an application. The manager walked away and wouldn't even listen.
I have heard this kind of thing is common with the businesses in the square. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone else?

I have several feelings and thoughts about your experience. The first thing (after thinking about this and reading all of the responses) is that it is a blessing that your niece did not start at this job. Seems like their expectations for potential employees is quite different than what you envisioned. And if it is true that your niece did not imbibe at their bar, and didn’t come back later on to drink shots either — then that is a lie and once again, good she didn’t start there.

Having said that, what happened there could be seen as a learning experience as well. In future interviews, I think it would be advantageous for your niece to appear more independent during the interview process. While the people interviewing your niece were very judgmental of her, there is a grain of truth that your niece did not come off as an independent person.

At 33, she must have a cell phone, so wondering why your phone number and other contacts weren’t in it — so she walked over to you to get the numbers. That would work if she were 16. Perhaps next time drop her off at the restaurant, then have her text you when she’s done and meet her in the parking lot. In a job interview, appearances are everything.

Better luck to your niece in the future!

[ithos]

The judgmental responses are uncalled for. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and they have to start over. We simply do not know the circumstances.

But to assume that there is a something wrong with the applicant that makes her unfit to work at a restaurant is not justified. The food and beverage business is where many good people go to work in order to get back on their feet or to help pay for school.

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

Originally Posted by jricci13

My very sweet 33 year old niece put in a job application at Amerikanos Grille in Spanish Springs. She is new to the Villages so naturally I took her to the square to put in applications since she has extensive service experience. I sat at the bar outside and she went inside to fill fill out an application and speak to management.. I was not “ holding her hand”! She came over to me for a few minutes and sat beside me to get a couple of phone numbers for the app and then continued to be interviewed by the staff.
She was told to return for work the next day at 2:30 p.m. (at lease that is how it was presented to her). I paid my bill and together we both left.

The next day my niece got dressed up and was ready to start her new job. I dropped her off at Amerikanos on the golf cart at 2: 30 and came home. Shortly after, I received a phone call from her; she was walking home and very upset. She told me that management had told her that she was not hired, she was to come in for an interview, and they were not comfortable hiring her because it was reported that "SHE STAYED AT THE VENUE AFTER APPLYING AND DRANK SHOTS OF FIREBALL AT THE BAR!". She pleaded with them that this was not true, but was told that she would not be hired. I
I was flabbergasted that they would make up such a story and went to talk to management. I attempted to angrily talk to the manager and let her know that this was false. My niece had never been to the square, drank nothing and I was sitting there the entire time she was filling out an application. The manager walked away and wouldn't even listen.
I have heard this kind of thing is common with the businesses in the square. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone else?

Does she drink " Fire Ball Whiskey". If she doesn't than that should clear it up.

[rsmurano]

It’s not uncommon to get hired that day or the next day when interviewed. If true about telling the new hire the day she came into work that she is fired/or not hired, the restaurant should have never done this. They could have called her the same day they caught here drinking to say they changed their mind to hire her, why wait until she came in to tell her that.
Also, if the applicant was from out of town, I don’t see what the issue is having her mom/grandmother/relative bring her in and wait for her at the bar. Something else happened that we don’t know about.

[joelfmi]

welcome to the real world of hires and employees.
Employees and hires are treated in retail as expendable object such as the Home depot to name just a few of many.of bad employer

[phousel]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Interesting.

The first thought that entered my mind reading the OP occurred far before the concluding paragraphs, when I read the phrase " I sat at the bar and drank a draft beer while she spoke to management and filled out an application. She came over to me for a few minutes and sat beside me to get a couple of phone numbers for the app".

That thought was "red flag".

Maybe the niece didn't drink anything. But appearance is reality. Had the writer of the OP sat at a table and ordered a coffee instead of at the bar drinking beer, I doubt this would have happened. Amerikanos was remiss in how they handled it (a phone call to the niece would have had the same result) but their reaction, in my opinion, was warranted--and prudent.

What?? How about conferring with the bartender?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by joelfmi

welcome to the real world of hires and employees.
Employees and hires are treated in retail as expendable object such as the Home depot to name just a few of many.of bad employer

I agree, but there are just as many or more irresponsible job applicants who don't respect the employers.

[Sherry8bal]

At 33 years old and she can't go look for a job by herself??? Why would anyone want to hire someone like that, regardless of her experience. Part of "growing up" is that they don't need someone else to escort them to a job interview - they should be able to handle it by themselves. They are trusting their business to that person and she can't help herself? I would not have hired her either.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by jricci13

My very sweet 33 year old niece put in a job application at Amerikanos Grille in Spanish Springs. She is new to the Villages so naturally I took her to the square to put in applications since she has extensive service experience. I sat at the bar outside and she went inside to fill fill out an application and speak to management.. I was not “ holding her hand”! She came over to me for a few minutes and sat beside me to get a couple of phone numbers for the app and then continued to be interviewed by the staff.
She was told to return for work the next day at 2:30 p.m. (at lease that is how it was presented to her). I paid my bill and together we both left.

The next day my niece got dressed up and was ready to start her new job. I dropped her off at Amerikanos on the golf cart at 2: 30 and came home. Shortly after, I received a phone call from her; she was walking home and very upset. She told me that management had told her that she was not hired, she was to come in for an interview, and they were not comfortable hiring her because it was reported that "SHE STAYED AT THE VENUE AFTER APPLYING AND DRANK SHOTS OF FIREBALL AT THE BAR!". She pleaded with them that this was not true, but was told that she would not be hired. I
I was flabbergasted that they would make up such a story and went to talk to management. I attempted to angrily talk to the manager and let her know that this was false. My niece had never been to the square, drank nothing and I was sitting there the entire time she was filling out an application. The manager walked away and wouldn't even listen.
I have heard this kind of thing is common with the businesses in the square. Has this kind of thing happened to anyone else?

As the old saying goes ---"You never get a second chance to make a first impression."

Please do your niece a favor and do not ever chaperone a job interview again. Even though you might think you were not being obvious, it looks like you sure were, especially considering that she left no doubt you were hovering about when she "consulted" with you for the phone numbers. That was a definite giveaway. (She really should have been prepared with all the info needed for an application.)

And then you said you "attempted to angrily talk to the manager" after your niece had "pleaded" that the shots thing was not true. (I would hope she would have tried to discuss it calmly and maybe she did, but it sounds like things might have gotten a little emotionally charged.) You should never have jumped into it. All that did was convince them they were right not to hire her.

The "shots" accusation is certainly a weird turn of events, but the fact remains that you were around. They had to have been aware of your presence and that probably raised a lot of questions about why in the heck you were basically along on an adult woman's job interview.

There are lots of openings and things should work out for her to find a job soon, so just chalk up this convoluted mess of a situation to experience and stay the heck out of her way next time.

Boomer

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Daxdog

Your sweet 33 year old nice must have said something unsweetened to them. And in other posts you say you waited outside, why did you pay your bill if outside ? I guess everyone’s nice is sweet.

Maybe you haven’t been to this restaurant……there is outside seating. I always pay at the table , outside.


Niece