Fact check: TRUE

& remarkable corkscrew swing

Correct! & no amount of pleading will get us to come back in.

How about Apple Pay?
 

I think the businesses should support Apple Pay (or other similar systems). Apple Pays costs consumers and businesses $0 to use/accept. Apple makes there money by charging cc companies 0.15% for the transaction, with a guarantee of a valid transaction.

Not exactly.

"Millions of store locations already accept Apple Pay, and although Apple doesn't charge merchants fees to accept the payment method, you will still pay transaction fees as you would typically on any other credit and debit sale. Credit card swipe fees in the U.S. range from 2 percent to 4 percent."

As I understand it, the merchant doesn't pay for using the Apple Pay method, but they still pay the bank for the usual credit card fee. So, what's the big deal?

4+% is Insanity!
 

That would be upsetting and might cause us to say bye to restaurant that we enjoy from time to time

Lake Harris Hideaway is tacking on 4% if you use a credit card and you aren't aware of the fee until you ask for the bill. Maybe we should start a list of establishments that are doing this.

They could get me once and that is on me but they won’t get me twice. Sounds like a desperate move to me.

Guessing Fees will go away when and if the servers get stiffed for the 3 percent fee and quit that particular restaurant.
No servers, no customers….

I don’t understand your issue. The cc service changes are, in my experience, always noted usually on the bottom of the check. Your failure to take note of it is your fault, nobody else’s.

I don't agree. If the intent is to notify the customer of the fee, it should be noted on the menu, so the customer is notified before he/she decides to order. After the customer has ordered and eaten, the notification of a credit card charge on the check is too late. If the customer doesn't have enough cash to pay the bill, he/she cannot avoid the credit card charge.

Stiffing the servers in unacceptable. They do not decide on the restaurant's policies. 3 percent on a 50.00 bill is a 1.00. Why would anyone make a big deal over a trivial amt of money?

Because for some Villagers, this is the land of the "C word" and the "F word"----cheap and free:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

A principal? Besides in Europe many places charge for pitcher of tap water. Would that charge be OK with you?

Not necessarily. Credit card fees can range up to 4.5% for businesses and maybe higher in some cases; we got charged 2.9% 10 years ago. My Mastercard gives 5% cash back at restaurants, so I'm still 1% ahead at Darrell's.

You are totally correct. I have never seen so many cheap people in one place. Driving the server nuts with more water and more lemons. They should leave a couple of dollars for the water service. Same amount of work as soft drinks and iced tea.

If the policy is they charge for water I would pay for the water. No principle involved.

Simple solution , go someplace else...

Exactly! They need to go someplace else and stop whining. If a couple of dollars makes that much of a difference, they should eat at home.

Agree totally---it was that water with lemon culture that drove Katie Belle's out of business

I would deduct it from tip, let owners deal with angry staff. Plus it’s illegal.

It's not "illegal". It MAY constitute a violation of the contractual agreement between the merchant and the credit card company, but even that is gray zone.

The bigger question: What did the server do to you that you would punish them for the owner's policy???? Complain to the owner or manager, don't stiff the server.

Plus, your strategy won't work unless you explicitly explain to the server WHY you reduced their tip, and i doubt many would want that confrontation.

Absolutely absurd! Do not punish the servers. On a 20.00 tip it is 67 cents. If you cannot afford that stay home.

Please cite the statute or Florida case law that supports your statement.

I believe it is 501.0117

Correct. But the law and a follow-up court challenge to it are both very confusing. What's worse is that even the State of Florida charges a fee to use a credit when paying taxes and other fees. But, even if a credit card surcharge is legal, the court said that the surcharge needs to be disclosed and the merchant cannot engage in deceptive practices. In my opinion, adding the surcharge on the check after the customer has already eaten the meal, is deceptive. The restaurant should notify the customers of the surcharge before they order the food. Otherwise, it is illegal.

I get water with lemon almost always. Here's why:

I don't drink soda and I rarely drink alcohol with meals.

Tap water in Florida tastes horrible, so I need to add lemon to make it drinkable for me.

I WOULD pay for bottled water but no one ever offers it to me.

I always ask for half a glass of water or a juice-sized glass of water with 1 piece of lemon to kill the taste. If they bring me a full glass, then I ask them for more lemon. I really only need a few sips with my meal but most wait staff don't actually LISTEN when I tell them I only want a little bit of water.

But again - if they offered to sell me a bottle of spring water I would gladly pay for it. They never do.

If the restaurant wants to add a CC fee just raise the menu prices.
Since I tip 20 percent always then they now get 16.5 percent which is probably more than they are getting now from the village people.

Are you deducting the CC fee from your server's tip? That's not very nice. I cannot imagine leaving a tip under 20 per cent. We always leave 25 per cent and do not deduct the credit card fee.

Becoming more frequent. Business use to absorb or include it in their pricing. Looks like way to charge more without raising prices. I prefer not using a debit card. I have one credit card for day to day use and not any reoccurring payments. That way if it gets hacked it is a simple process to switch to a new one. Hats off to Bellview Pizza. They don't or at least didn't take credit. Cash only.

The Belleview Pizza website says that they do accept credit cards.

Not debating the issue but have a hard time with the relevance of $.67 math. If you typically tip 20%, then for a $20 tip you must have spent $100 plus taxes $7. Not sure when the establishment calculates their 3.75% credit card fee, but perhaps it might be on the entire bill $127 or about $4.76.

Credit Card Fee
 

We tip a minimum of 25 per cent.

That was not the issue. I cited an example of 20% for purpose of illustration. However, I commend you for your generosity.

So you charge the 1% guy the same as 3.5% guy? Crooked

The fees they pay to the CC companies differ, not the fees they charge to the customers...

I would imagine it is calculated prior to the tip, since it is already there when you get your bill. Not sure if it is calculated on the tax or not---never cared enough to look

You haven't been there for awhile I assume. They started taking cc's months ago, bucking the trend lol. They do give you the cash option or the cc option which is slightly higher.