[Gpsma]

I always tip very generously. I feel i need to be among the wanna-be Frank Sinatras of the Villages.

I generally tip 20% up to a max of $5.

I refuse to pay some uneducated dolt with limited ambition to do nothing more than bring plates to my table. Its time to build some tuxedo clad robots and get rid of waitstaff.

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by stratmax

Have you noticed the food prices in restaurants have gone up dramatically. I'm not sure everybody knows this but last fall, 2024. Florida enacted a law mandating restaurants pay a base wage of $9.98 to their wait staff and a guarantee of $13/hour when combined with the tips.The law gave restaurants time to change their menu prices so they could pay the base wage.
So, why are we continuing to pay 20% tip when there is already a built in tip in the menu prices?
NOTE: the base wage is also going to go up to $10.98 this fall

Most people have no idea what the term Tip even means….
To Insure Prompt service

I tip based on the quality of the service (not the food) however a good server will check the food before bringing it out to make sure it is correct.

If you can not afford to leave a decent tip (20%) then stay home and eat.

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I always tip very generously. I feel i need to be among the wanna-be Frank Sinatras of the Villages.

I generally tip 20% up to a max of $5.

I refuse to pay some uneducated dolt with limited ambition to do nothing more than bring plates to my table. Its time to build some tuxedo clad robots and get rid of waitstaff.

WOW…. Just Wow 🤯

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JRcorvette

Most people have no idea what the term Tip even means….
To Insure Prompt service

I tip based on the quality of the service (not the food) however a good server will check the food before bringing it out to make sure it is correct.

If you can not afford to leave a decent tip (20%) then stay home and eat.

Can't argue with that, but please see post #102

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Worse still! The restaurant is not just scamming us into subsidizing one employee, we're subsidizing the whole business? Probably the boss gets the biggest cut. After all, the boss is the boss, righ?😧😡🤬

That is why you should always tip in cash. Leave the ethics up to the waitstaff - but they'll typically keep the cash tips and not share them, or claim they only got "x" cash tips and kick in a percentage of what they claimed they got, instead of what they actually got.

When the tip is part of a credit/debit card charge, the employees don't receive the tip until the manager has divvied it up and gives it to them (or includes it in their paycheck a week later).

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

True. So, when is National No MoreTip Day. I'm ready to reset to open and honest business practices with no pushing responsibility of on the poor, gullible and unsuspecting customer who just wants something to eat. 😋🤗🤢🤮

I have no problem tipping waitstaff as long as they've done an adequate job of serving.

My problem is with overtipping, and undertipping. Undertipping tells the wait staff that you're cheap, and don't deserve good service next time. Overtipping tells the wait staff that they need to fight over who gets to serve you next time you're in, and tells the manager that he's paying the waitstaff enough, since they have you to make up the difference.

If you have BAD service, don't tip at all. Tell the manager why.

If you have amazing service, tip 20% or even 22%, and tell the manager why.

If you have good, but not amazing service, 18% is sufficient.

If you have only the minimum required service, not bad, but not even good, then 15% is sufficient.

When waitstaff are constantly overtipped, they start expecting it, and start treating normal regular tippers like crap. "Why did table 6 only tip me 20%? What did I do WRONG?" is not something you should EVER expect a server to think.

[retiredguy123]

To clarify, Federal law states that any tip received by a "tipped" employee, as defined by the IRS, is the property of the tipped employee. If any of that money is required to be shared with any non-tipped employee or management it is theft and a violation of Federal law. It is legal for a restaurant to require tipped employees to pool their tips to be shared with other tipped employees, but no one else can receive the pooled money.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I always tip very generously. I feel i need to be among the wanna-be Frank Sinatras of the Villages.

I generally tip 20% up to a max of $5.

I refuse to pay some uneducated dolt with limited ambition to do nothing more than bring plates to my table. Its time to build some tuxedo clad robots and get rid of waitstaff.

Did I read that correctly? Max $5???? So $200,300,400 meal and they get $5?????

[Fastskiguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

So what system do you propose that won't leave someone feeling they were screwed?

1. You show above how our current system of tipping based on the price of the food screws someone.

2. We could go to a flat fee per table, maybe $40 for a four-top, but then you will feel screwed when you eat alone but get charged the same amount as the table of four next to you.

3, Perhaps a flat, per-person charge of $10 but that just reverses #1 - the diner gets screwed for ordering just the burger and water and the waiter gets screwed by the picky, needy diner.

4. Perhaps no fee or tipping at all where the owner increases prices 20% which goes directly into the hourly wage of the waiter but then they both get screwed when the diner essentially leaves a 20% tip regardless of the quality of the service and the waiter who gets the crazy busy shift earns no more than the waiter who served only a single customer who ate only a burger and water.

It feels like the push by the non-tippers is for #4 but I expect it won't be nearly as attractive when menu prices are raised to pay for it.

I’m for #4 all day long. Employer pays what it takes to get the workforce they need and the price is the price, none of this nebulous tipping bull****. The current state is just ridiculous for everyone. I mean, hey, I have busy days at work just like anybody else but I’m paid by the day. I like your list of options though!

Joe

[bilcon]

Thank you for being a first responder, but I am sure that you made a lot more money per hour than the wait staff makes.

[bilcon]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

I always tip very generously. I feel i need to be among the wanna-be Frank Sinatras of the Villages.

I generally tip 20% up to a max of $5.

I refuse to pay some uneducated dolt with limited ambition to do nothing more than bring plates to my table. Its time to build some tuxedo clad robots and get rid of waitstaff.

Would you rather pay the welfare bill for those "uneducated dolts" as you call them?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That is why you should always tip in cash. Leave the ethics up to the waitstaff - but they'll typically keep the cash tips and not share them, or claim they only got "x" cash tips and kick in a percentage of what they claimed they got, instead of what they actually got.

When the tip is part of a credit/debit card charge, the employees don't receive the tip until the manager has divvied it up and gives it to them (or includes it in their paycheck a week later).

Always tip in cash and leave the ethics up to the waitstaff while fully expecting the waitstaff to cheat on their taxes???? Sounds like exactly the reason to NEVER tip in cash!

I never had a waitstaff job - I never received my pay the day I earned it - I always waited until payday. Worked well enough for me.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Always tip in cash and leave the ethics up to the waitstaff while fully expecting the waitstaff to cheat on their taxes???? Sounds like exactly the reason to NEVER tip in cash!

I never had a waitstaff job - I never received my pay the day I earned it - I always waited until payday. Worked well enough for me.

I agree. With a $36 trillion debt, I cannot understand why some people want to help others to cheat on their taxes, and to hide income from their employer.

[Whatnext]

Originally Posted by bilcon

Thank you for being a first responder, but I am sure that you made a lot more money per hour than the wait staff makes.

We had a whole lot more responsibility and stress as well. Delivering plates and drinks, is not the same as delivering babies, wreck casualties, fire victims etc.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You're assuming they work 5 days a week and that Monday/Tuesday nights are just as busy as Friday/Saturday...

I don't see that assumption at all.
Tp me, it is a simple suggestion of why people may choose that work as opposed to other jobs. The earning potential is very good compared to many routine daily 8hr, 40hr per week job options.