[Laker14]

I am interested in recent experiences in removing the PC ceiling in a Gardenia. And of course, having the ceiling resurfaced.

How long of a process?
Is the mess containable?

Expense?

Recommendations for who to consider for the job.

Thanks

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I am interested in recent experiences in removing the PC ceiling in a Gardenia. And of course, having the ceiling resurfaced.

How long of a process?
Is the mess containable?

Expense?

Recommendations for who to consider for the job.

Thanks

It's worth the money but there is no way we would remove a popcorn ceiling after we moved in. It is a wet, smelly mess even with the best containment, IMHO.

[villagetinker]

Popcorn in a Gardenia, I thought all of these had a knockdown ceiling finish, big difference. Anyway, there have been several threads on this topic in the past, generally that was discussed as being a big mess, and relatively expensive.

[CarlR33]

One such thread below. Unless all contents of the room are removed and the room is contained with poly you will have a mess in other rooms, etc. If not properly contained.
Popcorn Ceiling

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Laker14

I am interested in recent experiences in removing the PC ceiling in a Gardenia. And of course, having the ceiling resurfaced.

How long of a process?
Is the mess containable?

Expense?

Recommendations for who to consider for the job.

Thanks

My understanding is that those ceilings are backed by drywall. Why not just remove the entire drywall ceiling, popcorn and all, hang new drywall and go from there? Probably a lot less messy than trying to remove just the popcorn ceiling, and hanging new drywall on a ceiling, though it is a two-person job, is not all that complicated.

[JoelJohnson]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

My understanding is that those ceilings are backed by drywall. Why not just remove the entire drywall ceiling, popcorn and all, hang new drywall and go from there? Probably a lot less messy than trying to remove just the popcorn ceiling, and hanging new drywall on a ceiling, though it is a two-person job, is not all that complicated.

OR --- even easier, put 1/4 inch sheet rock over the existing ceiling. A lot less messy and cheaper.

[Babbs1957]

Did it! All rooms, 2100 sg ft. Plan on about 1k per 100sq ft. for PC removal- - - - - - - - That is assuming you have written proof that the PC is not asbestos. Although the manufacture of it was halted in the late 80s, what was already produced could still be installed. So you assume a developer, a big major housing developer stockpiles PC knowing that it's use is legal for years, even into the year 2000+. Luckily for me, my TV developer has a very small development

So in a nutshell, a company will test each room for a price to determine if it has asbestos. A percentage range of asbestos is given. You may get lucky and it was built in 2010 and your developer used all of his stockpile prior to build or maybe your developer found a stockpile by another developer who "went under" during COVID and bought his stockpile. Still have to get it tested.

If it has asbestos, your looking at full suited workers disposing of the material in a location specifically designed for hazardous materials dumping. Probably around 2-3k per 100sf. here in TV.

It's not messy to remove and it's not smelly. We did it ourselves it in two of our homes back up north over the years and we did it here. Takes about an hour to clear ceiling and 30 minute clean-up.

If you choose to remove drywall ceiling with PC on it, same haz rules apply as if you were scraping it. If you choose to cover PC, you may find a company who will do it without testing because they feel the covering won't dislodge a kernal during install. New drywall added on top of existing PC. We chose not to do this because it is a lot of work and very dusty work even for our big drywall vacuum sander. Sanding drywall creates dust, floating dust, no matter what you do.

I still change my own oil, pump my own gas, degrease my engines and paint my house.....all without wearing PPE gear. Gas on hand can cause cancer. So can drinking from a reused water bottle, so can everything else in life. I didn't chew on the PC ceiling kernals and I didn't roll them up and smoke em.

I take my life in my hands everyday.......I drive around in TV everyday in a golf cart!

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Babbs1957

Did it! All rooms, 2100 sg ft. Plan on about 1k per 100sq ft. for PC removal- - - - - - - - That is assuming you have written proof that the PC is not asbestos. Although the manufacture of it was halted in the late 80s, what was already produced could still be installed. So you assume a developer, a big major housing developer stockpiles PC knowing that it's use is legal for years, even into the year 2000+. Luckily for me, my TV developer has a very small development

So in a nutshell, a company will test each room for a price to determine if it has asbestos. A percentage range of asbestos is given. You may get lucky and it was built in 2010 and your developer used all of his stockpile prior to build or maybe your developer found a stockpile by another developer who "went under" during COVID and bought his stockpile. Still have to get it tested.

If it has asbestos, your looking at full suited workers disposing of the material in a location specifically designed for hazardous materials dumping. Probably around 2-3k per 100sf. here in TV.

It's not messy to remove and it's not smelly. We did it ourselves it in two of our homes back up north over the years and we did it here. Takes about an hour to clear ceiling and 30 minute clean-up.

If you choose to remove drywall ceiling with PC on it, same haz rules apply as if you were scraping it. If you choose to cover PC, you may find a company who will do it without testing because they feel the covering won't dislodge a kernal during install. New drywall added on top of existing PC. We chose not to do this because it is a lot of work and very dusty work even for our big drywall vacuum sander. Sanding drywall creates dust, floating dust, no matter what you do.

I still change my own oil, pump my own gas, degrease my engines and paint my house.....all without wearing PPE gear. Gas on hand can cause cancer. So can drinking from a reused water bottle, so can everything else in life. I didn't chew on the PC ceiling kernals and I didn't roll them up and smoke em.

I take my life in my hands everyday.......I drive around in TV everyday in a golf cart!

Yes, it is very messy and smelly when removed professionally by experts. But then they don't work in small sections. Everything in your home will or should be tented with plastic and good luck if you decide to do it yourself. We are do it yourselfers but would never spend days in a larger home looking at the ceiling, probably on a ladder, wetting and scraping. Then most likely, repairing drywall underneath. Some of the best money you can spend is hiring a good crew while your home is empty for popcorn ceiling removal.

[Jim 9922]

The estate of a neighbor had a complete Gardina with volume ceilings stripped of popcorn ceilings about 2 years ago. If I remember correctly the cost was about $10,000. It took about 1 month from start to finish with a crew of 2 to 4 people consistently working. It is a wet and very messy process. All furniture was removed before beginning, and I can't imagine keeping anything in any of the rooms during the process. Everything except the ceilings is draped in heavy protective plastic. It took about a 3 days to drape everything, remove fixtures, etc. About a week to do the scraping. A week to dry out the house with big fans and remove the plastic and scrapped mess and a week to retape, patch, recoat, and repaint the ceiling Probably a total of 4 weeks for the whole project.
Sunshine Handyman Services did the work. Sean Gassner 352-530-5056. All was done professionally and looked great when completed. No flooring, side walls, windows or wood was damaged.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

My understanding is that those ceilings are backed by drywall. Why not just remove the entire drywall ceiling, popcorn and all, hang new drywall and go from there? Probably a lot less messy than trying to remove just the popcorn ceiling, and hanging new drywall on a ceiling, though it is a two-person job, is not all that complicated.

This is not a viable option. MUCH more expensive. Everything must sill be removed from ALL rooms. Sheet rock dust permeates EVERYTHING, including the A/C system. It doesn't matter how much plastic one uses to block it. At least the popcorn removal process is "wet" hence no dust.

[jsrid]

Had our popcorn ceiling removed by AB Drywall. We have a Lantana. 2 days, no mess. Our home was actually cleaner after they finished!

[ron32162]

I had this done 2 years ago. Textures by blue sky 407-999-7900. They are out of Orlando not a problem they do a lot of jobs here in The Villages I have a Anna Maria courtyard villa. Not messy, Looks great and they clean up with a cleaning crew afterwards. I did price two company's in the surrounding area NOT reliable. The price per sq ft at that time was 1.25 per sq ft. for scraping and texture at the time . Painting was another crew and they price out that. Kind of a la cart with the same company. They give you the option some people want to paint it themselves. Hope this helps.

[wslovely]

Ditto to last. AB Drywall, two days, four crew, $3100 for 1500 sq ft.
No mess, satisfaction guaranteed.

[Babbs1957]

There are a number of options depending on what you want in the end.
-Scrape it and sand it smooth
-Scrape it and texture it
-Don't scrape and cover with thin drywall
-Don't scrape and cover with decorative ceiling tiles
-Don't scrape and cover with planked wood

We moved furniture to one side of the room, then work the open space. Then move it all back to the area we just finished and worked that side. Only one room was affected at a time and only during 9-4. Kids would come home from school and everything was clean and normal. I guess you could turn anything into a giant waste of money and scream horrors by removing all the furniture from the home, water abatement, ac system cleaning.....blah blah blah. I can make the baking of a cake sound like a multi-day process.

The difference is.......we have actually done it......several times.

[Ponygirl]

We removed the popcorn ourselves in a courtyard villa. Not smelly at all and mess was easily contained.

Then paid to have the popcorn removed in a larger house with high ceilings . Cost was 3200 for popcorn removal smooth surface not knock down and painting

Looks amazing