[Unruly]

I am sitting here totally baffled by the construction in our master bath. My wife and I had the master shower retiled. I am doing all the fixtures, lights and cabinets myself. So today I take down the two light fixtures over the twin sinks and there is no work box! The wire just comes through a hole in the drywall. Any type of electrical wiring must terminate in a work box. So, I get that mess straightened out and now I am going to hang surface mount medicine cabinets above each sink. Get out the old trusty stud finder aaaand... The wall studs in the master bath are 24 inches on center behind the sink!! No way of mounting the cabinets without tearing the wall apart and putting addition studs in. As far as I know the standard for wall studs have always been 16 inches on center! To me this is just really cheap shortcuts being taken with the construction of our homes. Enough said.....

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Unruly

I am sitting here totally baffled by the construction in our master bath. My wife and I had the master shower retiled. I am doing all the fixtures, lights and cabinets myself. So today I take down the two light fixtures over the twin sinks and there is no work box! The wire just comes through a hole in the drywall. Any type of electrical wiring must terminate in a work box. So, I get that mess straightened out and now I am going to hang surface mount medicine cabinets above each sink. Get out the old trusty stud finder aaaand... The wall studs in the master bath are 24 inches on center behind the sink!! No way of mounting the cabinets without tearing the wall apart and putting addition studs in. As far as I know the standard for wall studs have always been 16 inches on center! To me this is just really cheap shortcuts being taken with the construction of our homes. Enough said.....

Agree, we love our Villages home because of the amenities, lifestyle, weather, lower taxes and utilities, etc…. But every single day I shake my head at the cheap and short sighted construction. Stuff that should last our lifetimes is constantly breaking. Fortunately, I enjoy the challenge of fixing stuff and it keeps me busy, but I can think of many other ways I’d prefer to spend time and money.

[retiredguy123]

Both of the construction techniques you described may very well comply with the building code. Studs that are 24-inches on center, especially for interior, non-load bearing walls, have been allowed for at least 30 years or longer. And, wall-mounted light fixtures that have a metal or other approved enclosure for the wiring, do not need a junction box installed behind the drywall. Actually, I would prefer that the wiring be installed through a hole in the drywall, rather than terminated inside a junction box behind the drywall. To me, it is a safer installation and easier to access. And, there are fewer wire terminations.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Unruly

I am sitting here totally baffled by the construction in our master bath. My wife and I had the master shower retiled. I am doing all the fixtures, lights and cabinets myself. So today I take down the two light fixtures over the twin sinks and there is no work box! The wire just comes through a hole in the drywall. Any type of electrical wiring must terminate in a work box. So, I get that mess straightened out and now I am going to hang surface mount medicine cabinets above each sink. Get out the old trusty stud finder aaaand... The wall studs in the master bath are 24 inches on center behind the sink!! No way of mounting the cabinets without tearing the wall apart and putting addition studs in. As far as I know the standard for wall studs have always been 16 inches on center! To me this is just really cheap shortcuts being taken with the construction of our homes. Enough said.....

Studs are $4+/each these days. A standard plastic work box is about $1.50 & by the time it's installed & connected, it's probably $25+. A penny saved, is a penny earned, when you're doing production construction.

At 3000+ homes per year, the savings are huge.

[Riverview]

It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$ profits.

[Super Cindy]

Work is sub-par at best. We just closed on a house, and I begin to repaint the walls. Drywall patches not sanded and textured right over, paint drips all over the base board, 2x4 put in crown out so there's a big bump in the wall, some doors are damaged and should have been replaced, windowsill in the bathroom installed upside down. And the list goes on. Like tophcfa it's all about the amenities and my super big garage for our boat.

[Sparky99]

Building a home or structure on a budget relies on simple architectural layouts, cost-effective materials, and smart project management.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Super Cindy

Work is sub-par at best. We just closed on a house, and I begin to repaint the walls. Drywall patches not sanded and textured right over, paint drips all over the base board, 2x4 put in crown out so there's a big bump in the wall, some doors are damaged and should have been replaced, windowsill in the bathroom installed upside down. And the list goes on. Like tophcfa it's all about the amenities and my super big garage for our boat.

New construction?

[mraines]

Originally Posted by Unruly

I am sitting here totally baffled by the construction in our master bath. My wife and I had the master shower retiled. I am doing all the fixtures, lights and cabinets myself. So today I take down the two light fixtures over the twin sinks and there is no work box! The wire just comes through a hole in the drywall. Any type of electrical wiring must terminate in a work box. So, I get that mess straightened out and now I am going to hang surface mount medicine cabinets above each sink. Get out the old trusty stud finder aaaand... The wall studs in the master bath are 24 inches on center behind the sink!! No way of mounting the cabinets without tearing the wall apart and putting addition studs in. As far as I know the standard for wall studs have always been 16 inches on center! To me this is just really cheap shortcuts being taken with the construction of our homes. Enough said.....

It's all about the money.

[jrref]

Please don't tell us what Village you are in so we can understand what year and where your home was built.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Riverview

It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$ profits.

Pretty much like any business, even the ones most of us worked for. That's a good thing.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Super Cindy

Work is sub-par at best. We just closed on a house, and I begin to repaint the walls. Drywall patches not sanded and textured right over, paint drips all over the base board, 2x4 put in crown out so there's a big bump in the wall, some doors are damaged and should have been replaced, windowsill in the bathroom installed upside down. And the list goes on. Like tophcfa it's all about the amenities and my super big garage for our boat.

So if these were called out on the walk-through, most items should be correctable by either asking the seller to fix (if pre-owned) prior to closing, or under warranty (if new construction).

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by mraines

It's all about the money.

Imagine that: running a business for profit. I guess the developer could build all custom homes with high-dollar finishes, but then how many houses would they sell? And how many retired people could afford them if they did?

[justjim]

Originally Posted by jrref

Please don't tell us what Village you are in so we can understand what year and where your home was built.

Good no question.

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by Unruly

I am sitting here totally baffled by the construction in our master bath. My wife and I had the master shower retiled. I am doing all the fixtures, lights and cabinets myself. So today I take down the two light fixtures over the twin sinks and there is no work box! The wire just comes through a hole in the drywall. Any type of electrical wiring must terminate in a work box. So, I get that mess straightened out and now I am going to hang surface mount medicine cabinets above each sink. Get out the old trusty stud finder aaaand... The wall studs in the master bath are 24 inches on center behind the sink!! No way of mounting the cabinets without tearing the wall apart and putting addition studs in. As far as I know the standard for wall studs have always been 16 inches on center! To me this is just really cheap shortcuts being taken with the construction of our homes. Enough said.....

The Villages build crap tract homes. I am sure that they got the okay from the county building department to do their own inspections and approvals because the county does not have enough inspectors to keep up with the speed they build these homes!