[JohnN]

I'm on the maximum legal dose of Oxycodone for my incredibly horrific back pain.
Doc says Spondylosis, but doesn't matter, it hurts and the docs can't seem to fix it.

Oxy is.... meh . 4 a day and still plenty of pain since the relief doesn't last.

I'm thinking about CBD, and yes, I'm aware there is a new law coming.
Or am I just jumping down a rabbit hole?

Any experiences to share? I'm not a smoker (throat cancer), so perhaps gummies?

Thanks. peace and blessings to you and yours

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

CBD isn't THC. CBD is available over the counter at most pharmacies, even Publix has a section for CBD products. I found no relief with it, but my sister swears by it. CBD has no effect on your mind, it won't make you tired or stoned, nothing like that. The worst that can happen - is it doesn't do anything for you at all, and you've wasted some money. The best that can happen is that it helps relieve the pain significantly. It's not addictive or habit-forming.

[Haggar]

Originally Posted by JohnN

I'm on the maximum legal dose of Oxycodone for my incredibly horrific back pain.
Doc says Spondylosis, but doesn't matter, it hurts and the docs can't seem to fix it.

Oxy is.... meh . 4 a day and still plenty of pain since the relief doesn't last.

I'm thinking about CBD, and yes, I'm aware there is a new law coming.
Or am I just jumping down a rabbit hole?

Any experiences to share? I'm not a smoker (throat cancer), so perhaps gummies?

Thanks. peace and blessings to you and yours

I've got a client which specializes in CBD products - Pharmacanna LLC - run by Pharmacists.

Here's the link if you want to see their range of products. Products
– PharmaCanna

Don't use it myself so I can't judge whether they work or not. You always can try ordering something and see if it works and judge for yourself.

[FastAndCurious]

You should be eligible for a medical marijuana card. Try some of the real stuff like gummies with 10 mg THC. It's not really a pain killer but might make your pain less intense and more tolerable.
Be prepared to run to the store for a hershey bar! Best one you ever ate!

[JohnN]

thanks for the responses, much appreciated

[villagetinker]

I had to look up your condition, I have had very good results with Dr. David Kuhns, chiropractor, in Wildwood. I have been using him on and off for over 10 years for different injuries. I have no idea if he could help. I have occasional lower spine pain, and Dr. Kuhns alignments and damp heat provide lots of relief. I have been prescribed Oxi a few times over the years, and I find it does very little for pain relief.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

BTW I've had degenerative disc disease since I was around 30. DDD is a type of spondylosis that affects only the discs, and is very common in older people. It's not treatable, it's not curable, and most people don't even know they have it until it's progressed, or is in their upper spine. In severe cases, surgery to fuse the vertebrae is pretty much the solution. Mine is L5-S1. Or rather, that's where it started. Now it's L4-L5 and L5-S1. Two discs disintegrating slowly over time. I've strengthened my stomach muscles to accommodate the loss, and rarely feel pain from it. I also have acute lordosis (swayback) but I've minimized that with exercise and posture training as well.

If your pain is in the lower curve of your back - also known as the lumbar spine, you could ask about compression. A flexible elastic brace/back support is helpful when I'm having a bad day, it basically just helps keep my spine erect when I'm sitting or standing, keeping my spine from having to do so much work to stay straight.

If the pain is nerve-related, maybe ask your doctor about gabapentin instead of oxy. Not everyone is a good candidate for it, but it's used for nerve pain (#1 prescription medicine recommended for shingles pain).

The CBD might be helpful. And like I said - the worst thing that would happen if you try it, is it doesn't work and you're out a few bucks. It's legal. Medterra is a common brand with strict manufacturing standards and third-party lab testing. You can get Medterra creams that you apply to the skin right where you're feeling the pain at CVS.

[Ecuadog]

Originally Posted by FastAndCurious

... Try some of the real stuff like gummies with 10 mg THC. ...

You can get stuff with 10 mg of THC from ABC Wine, Total Wine or Winn-Dixie.

[tophcfa]

I used to take either ibuprofen or Aleve just about every day for my aching joints until I discovered CBD. CBD is very misunderstood. It comes from hemp plants, which are a type of marijuana that has absolutely no effect on the mind like either stativa or indica plants which produces a high. CBD has absolutely wonderful anti inflammatory effects that help with old and aching joints. The best part of CBD is that it doesn’t beat on your kidneys and liver like traditional over the counter anti inflammatory medications. Some people swear by it, while others don’t find it helpful. It works for me. I recently ran out of it and decided to try going without it. After a couple days I changed my mind because the aching joints told me I was better off taking my daily 50 mg CBD gummy. It’s worth a try, and it doesn’t get you high.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by JohnN

I'm on the maximum legal dose of Oxycodone for my incredibly horrific back pain.
Doc says Spondylosis, but doesn't matter, it hurts and the docs can't seem to fix it.

Oxy is.... meh . 4 a day and still plenty of pain since the relief doesn't last.

I'm thinking about CBD, and yes, I'm aware there is a new law coming.
Or am I just jumping down a rabbit hole?

Any experiences to share? I'm not a smoker (throat cancer), so perhaps gummies?

Thanks. peace and blessings to you and yours

Have you tried an inversion table to relieve spine pressure? I have used one for 25 years and I have no pain or other back issues. This is after having severe disc issues many moons ago.

Basically, you use it for just a few minutes (2-5) at a time; as often as you like, several times a day. Of course, gravity reasserts itself once you get off but the relief lasts for a while. One trick I learned years ago was this: use the inversion table as the last thing you do before bed. Take care of all your bed-time tasks and then get on the table for a few minutes. Get off the table and roll right into bed (so I kept it in our bedroom). This keeps your spine expanded and relaxed while you now lay horizontal and are not subject to gravitational pressure on your spine for hopefully several hours or all night. Doing this at bed-time accelerated my healing. I now use the table only occasionally for maintenance; maybe a couple of times a month.

An inversion table basically saved my life in terms of being upright, active and pain free. I also made a concerted effort to lose weight which helped. If you are over weight, that is also something to consider. Good luck.

[Miboater]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Have you tried an inversion table to relieve spine pressure? I have used one for 25 years and I have no pain or other back issues. This is after having severe disc issues many moons ago.

Basically, you use it for just a few minutes (2-5) at a time; as often as you like, several times a day. Of course, gravity reasserts itself once you get off but the relief lasts for a while. One trick I learned years ago was this: use the inversion table as the last thing you do before bed. Take care of all your bed-time tasks and then get on the table for a few minutes. Get off the table and roll right into bed (so I kept it in our bedroom). This keeps your spine expanded and relaxed while you now lay horizontal and are not subject to gravitational pressure on your spine for hopefully several hours or all night. Doing this at bed-time accelerated my healing. I now use the table only occasionally for maintenance; maybe a couple of times a month.

An inversion table basically saved my life in terms of being upright, active and pain free. I also made a concerted effort to lose weight which helped. If you are over weight, that is also something to consider. Good luck.

I've had L4-L5 fusion 17 years ago and they wanted to do L5-S1 12 years ago. I said no and went at rehab hard afterwards. The inversion table has been great but I also added another piece of equipment called a reverse hyper machine. It is basically a table with a swing arm underneath that you add weight plates. You lay face down with your legs over the side and put your feet through a loop connected to the weights and do reverse leg raises. On the way up it strengthens your lower back and one the way down it decompresses the lower back. Do a Google search on it as it is hard to explain. Power lifters have been using it for years to help with lower back decompression.

[Vicxyz]

Originally Posted by JohnN

I'm on the maximum legal dose of Oxycodone for my incredibly horrific back pain.
Doc says Spondylosis, but doesn't matter, it hurts and the docs can't seem to fix it.

Oxy is.... meh . 4 a day and still plenty of pain since the relief doesn't last.

I'm thinking about CBD, and yes, I'm aware there is a new law coming.
Or am I just jumping down a rabbit hole?

Any experiences to share? I'm not a smoker (throat cancer), so perhaps gummies?

Thanks. peace and blessings to you and yours

Look into MSM and/or DMSO. Both are natural and are excellent with a great safety record. They’re also inexpensive. Many books available. Best wishes.

[ron32162]

I have used this for chronic back pain. Yes it worked for a friend of mine and myself over time 6 months or so. It will accumulate in body tissues faster than the liver and kidneys can completely eliminate it (CBD). Both of us found out by comparing notes with each other caused drowsiness, tiredness, or fatigue are recognized side effects of cannabidiol (CBD), and reported by a notable portion of users. I stopped taking it I didn't like falling asleep all the time during the day and my friend trying it did also. I want to add, this was the real CBD you get with the prescription and get at the cannabis stores located around The Villages. The stuff you can buy NON prescription at Wallgreens ,Publix etc it is not the same CBD. I think safe to try chronic pain is no joke not everyone has the same reaction .

[Snakster66]

Originally Posted by Ecuadog

You can get stuff with 10 mg of THC from ABC Wine, Total Wine or Winn-Dixie.

...until December 11.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by JohnN

thanks for the responses, much appreciated

Two cents worth. First of all due to inflation two cents is like a dollar. I'm not an expert but if you are taking marijuana, you can't own a gun.
Many alternatives I've not tried any of them. Acupuncture, hypnosis, implants, surgery-more surgery. I have no idea why but short bike rides help my back. I've had surgery. A second opinion, tops in the field. Implant was suggested by another doctor. He said your back is a mess. I don't know why the surgeon didn't do and and. My style. I asked if it was your back what would you do? Disappointing reply yet TRUTH. It is your back not mine. We expect doctors to be gods. It says MEDICAL ARTS not MEDICAL SCIENCE. Attorneys.
Your doctor will do what is accepted practice. What to do? BEATS ME.