[TexaninVA]

This video lasts about six minutes.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE]Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - Updated 2010 - YouTube[/ame]

The topic is immigration and world poverty and cleverly illustrated by the use of gumballs.

I had two reactions after viewing this.

1. Any immigration policy that advocates or encourages “open borders” is literally suicidal to the USA, and most especially to our kids and grandkids

2. No matter the flaws or shortcomings that America may have, one can’t help but feel fortunate, indeed lucky, to have been born in this Country.

I invite others to share their comments, reactions and thoughts on the topic of immigration.

[rubicon]

The gentleman in the video demonstrated an outstanding explanation of the naivete of do gooders whose enabling-esque activities end up with unintended consequences. It also serves as a blue print on how best to provide alternate and effective solutions. We need more leaders with his common sense

[billethkid]

Also do yourself a favor and watch his second presentation "immigration by the numbers"....it will be offered at the end of the posted video but if you miss it here is a link:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ&feature=player_detailpage]Immigration by the Numbers -- Off the Charts - YouTube[/ame]

15 minutes to become educated about the impact (or not) of immigration. One can NOT really be in a conversation about immigration if they do not understand the impacts.....and the majority of Americans not only do not understand....they are just too busy to care!!

[redwitch]

I guess I'm missing something. I was never under the illusion that America's legal immigration policy was to help the impoverished. People immigrating here legally had to either have a needed skill, someone here willing to support them or be in extreme jeopardy in their country. Yes, we're housing some illegal immigrants but the vast majority are sent back when caught even after being housed for awhile.

The problem is illegal immigration and the willingness to help these people, whether man, woman or child. If a child can find a family willing to take them in and support them sans foster care and government aid, let them stay. Ditto adults who can show a means of financial support. Let those who can prove extreme political danger if returned to their country stay. Otherwise, send them home. And, yes, I still say I'm a liberal but common sense has to prevail.

[Topspinmo]

" support them sans foster care and government aid."

Well, I agreed with you till the second para.

Foster care not free nor is government aid. We are broke. Nobody illegal should get to stay over legal immigration. IMO that's the problem the bleeding hearts are all for it as long as they are not spending their money IMO adaption out of the question, we have enough LEGAL children in this county that needs adapted. How about us taking care of our own children before we flood the system will ILEGAL immigration?

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by redwitch

...The problem is illegal immigration and the willingness to help these people, whether man, woman or child...

I can't get past the "illegal" part.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by Rc Moser

" support them sans foster care and government aid."

Well, I agreed with you till the second para.

Foster care not free nor is government aid. We are broke. Nobody illegal should get to stay over legal immigration. IMO that's the problem the bleeding hearts are all for it as long as they are not spending their money IMO adaption out of the question, we have enough LEGAL children in this county that needs adapted. How about us taking care of our own children before we flood the system will ILEGAL immigration?

I don't think the word "sans" means what you think it does.

[Topspinmo]

" let them stay." I did know what that meant and it won't be "without" Gov. help by the billions.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by redwitch

I guess I'm missing something. I was never under the illusion that America's legal immigration policy was to help the impoverished. People immigrating here legally had to either have a needed skill, someone here willing to support them or be in extreme jeopardy in their country. Yes, we're housing some illegal immigrants but the vast majority are sent back when caught even after being housed for awhile.

The problem is illegal immigration and the willingness to help these people, whether man, woman or child. If a child can find a family willing to take them in and support them sans foster care and government aid, let them stay. Ditto adults who can show a means of financial support. Let those who can prove extreme political danger if returned to their country stay. Otherwise, send them home. And, yes, I still say I'm a liberal but common sense has to prevail.

"Otherwise, send them home. And, yes, I still say I'm a liberal but common sense has to prevail."

When conservatives say "send them home" for the same reasons, we're called "haters" and "racists"……End of dialogue.

Widens the division in our nation.

[redwitch]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

"Otherwise, send them home. And, yes, I still say I'm a liberal but common sense has to prevail."

When conservatives say "send them home" for the same reasons, we're called "haters" and "racists"……End of dialogue.

Widens the division in our nation.

No, the difference is most conservatives say send them home regardless. I would love for America to be able to allow every immigrant to stay and to help them on their journey to become successful U.S. citizens. Unfortunately, that just isn't possible. So, let those stay who truly are seeking political asylum, those who have the skills to earn a reasonable living, those children others are willing to take into their homes and support, not get financial assistance from the government.

As to adopting children here, that is an entirely different issue. I'm not saying people should adopt these children, but if they are so inclined, take these children in but they get NO government aid for supporting these kids (kind of like foreign exchange students). Yes, we educate them, but, in the long run, this benefits us as much as it does the kids.

For many years, I was truly in favor of an open-door policy. I didn't consider those from Mexico to be any less than Americans. Many of them came to work the fields in the summer, went back to Mexico for the winter. They worked incredibly hard and were (and are) incredibly poorly treated. However, now they come from Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala and on and on. America simply doesn't have the resources to support all those coming here. So, painfully and reluctantly, I was forced to change my attitudes somewhat.

Let people immigrate to America, but not if they don't have means of support. No green card, no food stamps, no government handouts, no free medical. I'm not happy with this stance but, for now, I see no alternative. Sadly, economics prevail.