[Cisco Kid]

But it was hidden for us.
Does anyone tell the truth anymore ?




http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pons.html?_r=0

[gomoho]

Nope - nobody tells the truth and that is what has gotten us to where we are today - in deep doo doo.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid

Nytimes now says WMD's were found in Iraq But it was hidden for us.
Does anyone tell the truth anymore ?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pons.html?_r=0

I was very surprised to see the title of this thread which implies that Bush/Cheney were correct that Saddam had an ongoing production and plan to utilize WMD which was the pretext for the invasion. We all recall Cheney explaining how if we didn't act there would be mushroom clouds and Colin Powell at the UN showing photos of what he claimed were rolling chemical/biological weapons plants. So now the NYT has confirmed those allegations? No completely the opposite unless my reading is erroneous.

"American troops began encountering old chemical munitions in hidden caches and roadside bombs. Typically 155-millimeter artillery shells or 122-millimeter rockets, they were remnants of an arms program Iraq had rushed into production in the 1980s during the Iran-Iraq war.

All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. "

And this
" Mr. Bush insisted that Mr. Hussein was hiding an active weapons of mass destruction program, in defiance of international will and at the world’s risk. United Nations inspectors said they could not find evidence for these claims" my bold

And then this
"The discoveries of these chemical weapons did not support the government’s invasion rationale"

The rest of the article gives great detail on the particulars of who what and when these materials were made, our soldiers' exposures, and the military cover up of its findings.

"Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. “They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds,” Mr. Lampier said. “And all of this was from the pre-1991 era.”

Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies."

Does anyone tell the truth? Certainly looks like the US Military lied on this one. You can be sure that had an active WMD program been found the political architects of that war would have then and now been proclaiming the evidence loudly.

[xNYer]

My reading of the article is similar to yours. They were inactive, abandoned chemical weapons sites which did not confirm the rationale for the invasion.

[Cisco Kid]

Blueash ? You really got that 1st paragraph form the heading of my thread ?
I tried stay non political per forum rules.
I did not mean to upset you.

[janmcn]

Remember how Condi warned us about the abandoned mustard gas shells?

[rubicon]

Back when people were decrying no WMD I said that the only thing people could say is that WMD were not found. I explained that if Iraq had the cunning to bury planes in the dessert then they could hide WMD. I also said that Iraq could have moved much of their WMD to their next door neighbor Syria.

[tomwed]

I appreciate everyone for taking the time to read the article and explaining it.

I used to bait new teachers who shared my sense of humor, not everyone. When it snowed a little during morning classes I’d ask them at lunch “Did you hear we’re having a half day?” They would draw the wrong conclusion and ask me “Really, we’re having a half day?”. I’d switch it and say “Oh, I don’t know. I was asking you, if you heard we’re having a half day.” gotcha

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Back when people were decrying no WMD I said that the only thing people could say is that WMD were not found. I explained that if Iraq had the cunning to bury planes in the dessert then they could hide WMD. I also said that Iraq could have moved much of their WMD to their next door neighbor Syria.

I bet Saddam wished they had the same "cunning" when it came to hiding him.

[lynxville]

Saddam used chemical warfare on the Kurds, where did that come from? He had plenty time to move chemicals. If he had nothing to hide why did he not want UN inspectors in his country? Not saying this was reason to invade the country.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Cisco Kid

Blueash ? You really got that 1st paragraph form the heading of my thread ?
I tried stay non political per forum rules.
I did not mean to upset you.

To some it does not matter what a person states if it is not in alignment with their polarity; it automatically triggers a prejudiced/biased catharsis and PRESENT facts usually have no impact on their position.